(06-24-2022 11:38 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:53 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:46 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  And lest there be any doubt as to the next goals zealots have for this iteration of the Supreme Court, Justice Thomas makes it crystal clear -

Thomas wrote, “In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell.”

Griswold = birth control
Lawrence = homosexual sex
Obergefell = same-sex marriage

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...tq-rights/

Bet you there are some posters here who would like to see interracial marriage go back to the states.

Or like Biden who fought to keep black kids from going to his kids schools....



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Has anyone seen Biden* sniff the hair of black or brown girls?

(06-24-2022 09:52 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:46 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  The biggest challenge is making all these leftist understand what this is and what it isn't. This does not outlaw abortion. It merely leaves it up to the states to decide how to address abortions. Most, if not all will continue to allow abortions although a handful will place limits...i.e. no abortions after 15 weeks or something similar. Obviously, blue states will likely continue to offer abortion up until birth.

Very little is really gonna change but the political spin is gonna be epic.

Perhaps.... But I see mores states going the route of Texas. Six weeks.

Why is that Sherlock?

(06-24-2022 09:52 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:48 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

Mental ******* illness writ large.

Evidence #4. Sorely lacking in intelligence department. She needs to be admitted.

(06-24-2022 11:30 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  It amazes me how many of those people with shirts or signs that say "my body my choice" are probably ones that would force you to take the covid shot.

Exactly. I actually think that whole vaccination movement is the reason this had to happen now. The inconsistency between Roe vs Wade and vaccine mandates was glaring and exposed the fact that Roe vs Wade simply had no real Constitutional basis for its existence.

(06-24-2022 09:57 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:34 AM)Niner National Wrote:  The wealthy will still get their abortions. This just means more poor babies born to parents that don’t want them or don’t have the means to take care of them.

Nope. You have no clue how hard it is to adopt babies apparently. Been there.

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Off topic. Is it easier to adopt abroad than here? I’m supporting children homes and I know some of them are up for adoption.

(06-24-2022 11:47 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Evidence #5. She thinks she’s a Christian!! Wow mind blowing

(06-24-2022 11:47 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Pelosi and Biden should be excommunicated from the Catholic Church today. No question.

(06-24-2022 10:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:42 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:28 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You CANNOT be this naïve. Especially if you think this ruling is going to change ANY of that.

It will. You remove a safety net and the acrobat tends to become more careful.

Yeah...okay...when a couple is being sexual with other...many times with alcohol involved...they're going to suddenly stop and say, wait, SCOTUS ruled. We have to stop now and go get a condom! Puhleeze!

95% of abortions are used as a form birth control.

Source?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/ss/s...tm#T7_down

CDC study says that 91% of abortions are done prior to the 12th week.

If medical emergency was the true reason for most abortions, the number of of later term abortions would be higher.

Hey, wait a minute. I thought January 6th was the biggest threat to this country???

(06-24-2022 11:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 11:38 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:53 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:46 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  And lest there be any doubt as to the next goals zealots have for this iteration of the Supreme Court, Justice Thomas makes it crystal clear -

Thomas wrote, “In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell.”

Griswold = birth control
Lawrence = homosexual sex
Obergefell = same-sex marriage

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...tq-rights/

Bet you there are some posters here who would like to see interracial marriage go back to the states.

Or like Biden who fought to keep black kids from going to his kids schools....



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Has anyone seen Biden* sniff the hair of black or brown girls?

Well, he thought Kumswallow Harris would treat him equally.

(06-24-2022 11:10 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 11:07 AM)Oman Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Quote:
Of the 400,000 children in foster care, approximately 117,000 are waiting to be adopted.
https://www.adoptuskids.org/meet-the-chi...20adopted.

i like your reasoning here... there are too many kids in foster care already..so let's kill the new ones. why not just go into the foster care system, pick the kids who have been there the longest, and eliminate them? same result.. same morality

He's a ghoul.

They aren't sending their best and brightest talking points today.

And you're clueless. I merely posted the number of kids in foster care and waiting for adoption. I neither said nor implied ANYTHING.

(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.

Women with means will still be able to get to blue states to get the operation performed. This includes the mistresses and the daughters of prominent GOP donors and members of congress.

And lastly, hopefully this motivates the 2/3rds of Americans who did not want to see Roe v Wade overturned to show up to the polls. I still think the Dems are going to take a beating in November but this will definitely blunt it IMO.

What about women being responsible for whether they get pregnant in the first place?

Not to mention, there are long lines of good people wanting to adopt.

Plus, they can always get in a car and go to a blue state.

And I'm pro choice. First trimester. Not like it's a surprise at that point.

So are we going to impeach all of these democrats that proudly proclaim they will not protect and defend the constitution of the United States of America?

(06-24-2022 11:50 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:57 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:34 AM)Niner National Wrote:  The wealthy will still get their abortions. This just means more poor babies born to parents that don’t want them or don’t have the means to take care of them.

Nope. You have no clue how hard it is to adopt babies apparently. Been there.

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Off topic. Is it easier to adopt abroad than here? I’m supporting children homes and I know some of them are up for adoption.

It different is the best way to describe it.

(06-24-2022 12:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.

Women with means will still be able to get to blue states to get the operation performed. This includes the mistresses and the daughters of prominent GOP donors and members of congress.

And lastly, hopefully this motivates the 2/3rds of Americans who did not want to see Roe v Wade overturned to show up to the polls. I still think the Dems are going to take a beating in November but this will definitely blunt it IMO.

What about women being responsible for whether they get pregnant in the first place?

Not to mention, there are long lines of good people wanting to adopt.

Plus, they can always get in a car and go to a blue state.

Pretty certain there's gotta be some semen from somewhere to get a woman pregnant. So are we going to have a complete revamp of the mans financial responsibility for getting a woman pregnant in these states where abortion gets outlawed?

Also I like the "just carry the baby to term and give it up for adoption" pretending that getting medical care being pregnant is just free or something and that there are zero short and long term health risks from being pregnant even aside from just the potential of dying during childbirth (which in a lot of the states that will ban abortion their mortality rates are at the level of some 3rd world countries).

https://gradynewsource.uga.edu/in-georgi...ave-lives/

Roe was always under attack because it was bad law.

It was bad law because it came from the bench, not the legislature.

It was bad law because it wasn't built on solid Constitutional grounds.

It was bad law because it was evil.

You don't have to agree with the final point to see the first two are true.

If it's the will of the nation to pass nationwide abortion laws then it will pass the House and the Senate. Whether that is on solid Constitutional grounds will depend on how it is crafted.

The truth is as it always was, this is a STATE issue, not a Federal one.

(06-24-2022 10:06 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:03 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  They also have other choices like birth control, the pill maybe a rubber.

Watch out. The religious right is coming after access to birth control next.

Your List left off Abortion**** 100% Birth Control.

I'm all for states rights but I'm concerned about what will happen to women with ectopic pregnancies, septic uteruses and unreleased miscarriages. I hope the politicians take these women/illnesses into consideration when they introduce new laws regarding abortion.

(06-24-2022 10:06 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:43 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  6-3 ruling

Not exactly, more like 5-1-3. Chief Justice Roberts concurred in the ruling, agreeing that the Mississippi law banning abortion after 15 weeks should be upheld, but disagreeing that Roe & Casey should be overturned.

(06-24-2022 09:51 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:35 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  The one good thing about the leak last month may be allowing time for people to process that this was coming, hopefully lessening the likelihood that there will be rioting & violence now in the aftermath of the actual decision.

The zealot wing of the GOP has finally won their long battle to force their moral choices regarding pregnancy on poor women in red states who lack the resources to pursue other options. Enjoy this iteration of the Court while you have it, and remember decisions you celebrate like Bruen yesterday rest on no firmer footing than the 50 year old precedent on precedent of Roe and Casey. Your cherished rights, just like ours, rest on what 5 Justices in a given case interpret them to be.

You keep saying that, but it still isn't true. And repeating over and over isn't going to make it any more true.

The right to bear arms is specifically enumerated in the Constitution. The right to kill babies is not.

And because many of you seem to confuse your preferred interpretation of the text of the Constitution with the only possible interpretation, you fail to recognize that the text of the 2nd Amendment, like much of the Constitution, is vague and subject to interpretation. As I've said, there is plenty in the text for the Court to come down anywhere between zero private ownership of firearms allowed all the way to zero restrictions allowed on private ownership of firearms. It only takes 5 Justices to decide that "a well regulated militia" controls and the right only exists in that context, similarly it only takes 5 Justices to decide that "shall not be infringed" controls and no restrictions are permissible. We know where this Court stands, but this Court will not sit forever.

Why would our founding fathers want us to have ownership of GUNS? Please inform us!