(06-24-2022 02:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Actually they can. Merrick Garland is not having a good week.

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:36 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.

Women with means will still be able to get to blue states to get the operation performed. This includes the mistresses and the daughters of prominent GOP donors and members of congress.

And lastly, hopefully this motivates the 2/3rds of Americans who did not want to see Roe v Wade overturned to show up to the polls. I still think the Dems are going to take a beating in November but this will definitely blunt it IMO.

LOL how many woman died during childbirth last year, 0? It goes back to the states skyscreamer.

Considerably more than zero, 861 in the US in 2020 -

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/mat...s-2020.htm

This will surely go up now, if women who die from unsafe back-alley abortions are classified as maternal deaths.

861 versus millions of dead babies? I'll still take those odds.

Tell me Satan, how many of them would still be alive if they only used contraception during sex? Probably all of them, huh?

Congratulations, you are a proud member of the "Bola de Pendejos Club".

Pretty sure contraception and pregnancy is a 2 way street. Are we going to have an extreme rethinking of the mans financial role in all this from the point of conception? So men should owe child support the day of conception now right?

Yup. You should also now be able to claim a tax deduction for your fetus as well.

(06-24-2022 02:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:24 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  Guessing some of the people on here praising the decision are going to themselves or their kids literally **** around and find out.

Best of luck.

Better than murdering my grandkids, I suppose.

But I'm a pushover for basic human rights...like breathing.

Breathing you say. Interesting. When do fetuses actually start breathing?

When do they have brains, and their hearts start beating? When do they feel pain?

(06-24-2022 02:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Actually they can.

States ban pot. Yet it's all over the streets. Who cares what states do if there is public demand. It still gets around. The issue is the fact that when people get caught, whether they actually get in trouble or not is usually based on discrimination in these circumstances. And that builds the egos of terrorists.

(06-24-2022 02:12 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:36 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  LOL how many woman died during childbirth last year, 0? It goes back to the states skyscreamer.

Considerably more than zero, 861 in the US in 2020 -

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/mat...s-2020.htm

This will surely go up now, if women who die from unsafe back-alley abortions are classified as maternal deaths.

861 versus millions of dead babies? I'll still take those odds.

Tell me Satan, how many of them would still be alive if they only used contraception during sex? Probably all of them, huh?

Congratulations, you are a proud member of the "Bola de Pendejos Club".

Pretty sure contraception and pregnancy is a 2 way street. Are we going to have an extreme rethinking of the mans financial role in all this from the point of conception? [b]So men should owe child support the day of conception now right?[/b]

I would be in favor of that

Shut down 90% of abortions and in turn make men financially responsible?

Your terms are fully acceptable.

(06-24-2022 02:04 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:17 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.

Women with means will still be able to get to blue states to get the operation performed. This includes the mistresses and the daughters of prominent GOP donors and members of congress.

And lastly, hopefully this motivates the 2/3rds of Americans who did not want to see Roe v Wade overturned to show up to the polls. I still think the Dems are going to take a beating in November but this will definitely blunt it IMO.

What about women being responsible for whether they get pregnant in the first place?

Not to mention, there are long lines of good people wanting to adopt.

Plus, they can always get in a car and go to a blue state.

Pretty certain there's gotta be some semen from somewhere to get a woman pregnant. So are we going to have a complete revamp of the mans financial responsibility for getting a woman pregnant in these states where abortion gets outlawed?

Also I like the "just carry the baby to term and give it up for adoption" pretending that getting medical care being pregnant is just free or something and that there are zero short and long term health risks from being pregnant even aside from just the potential of dying during childbirth (which in a lot of the states that will ban abortion their mortality rates are at the level of some 3rd world countries).

https://gradynewsource.uga.edu/in-georgi...ave-lives/

I agree. No more out-of-wedlock births and single mothers raising children. Force men to be fathers and husbands. That's one of the BEST things we could do to turn this nation around.

No more following the Marxist philosophy of "abolishing the family."

In case you aren't aware, that's exactly what Crisis Pregnancy Centers do. You know, those places the radical marxist leftist terrorists have been vandalizing and fire-bombing? They help women thru their pregnancies -- emotionally, financially and medically.

As far as health affects from being pregnant -- actually there's more a detrimental health risk to women that have never given birth. Having an abortion and not actually giving birth is very harmful to a woman's future health.

As far as the potential of dying during childbirth... yes, it happens. But thankfully it's so low statistically. And somehow the human race has flourished in spite of that "threat".

Per the CDC
In 2020, 861 women were identified as having died of maternal causes in the United States, compared with 754 in 2019

Guttmacher Institute
US Abortions in 2020 - 930,160

Very much ignoring the other health concerns from pregnancy, like gestational diabetes which has more than 200,000 cases per year, which can greatly increase your chances of developing type 2 diabetes. So are these states who now mandate you have children going to ensure these mothers have the care necessary to protect these precious lives?

https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/basics/gestational.html

(06-24-2022 02:15 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:34 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.

Its like some of the low iq people in this nation has never heard of adoption.

Not sure how current these numbers are, but...

Quote:Of the 400,000 children in foster care, approximately 117,000 are waiting to be adopted.

https://www.adoptuskids.org/meet-the-chi...20adopted.

You've clearly not researched or seriously looked into adoption. There's literally a waiting list for babies in the millions of couples. Most of those still in the system were abandoned later, parents died, were taken from family, etc, etc. I'm not talk. My wife and I started going down that road.

You people absolutely disgust me. Personal responsibility? Nope. Can't have that. Let's kill the innocent child. You're no Christian, Tom.

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Oh, knock it the **** off. All I did was post the damn stats. Geebus!

Yes, I know it takes time and money to adopt, etc. I personally know 2 people at my church (1 family and 1 single young girl) currently doing so.

(06-24-2022 02:19 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:12 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  Considerably more than zero, 861 in the US in 2020 -

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/mat...s-2020.htm

This will surely go up now, if women who die from unsafe back-alley abortions are classified as maternal deaths.

861 versus millions of dead babies? I'll still take those odds.

Tell me Satan, how many of them would still be alive if they only used contraception during sex? Probably all of them, huh?

Congratulations, you are a proud member of the "Bola de Pendejos Club".

Pretty sure contraception and pregnancy is a 2 way street. Are we going to have an extreme rethinking of the mans financial role in all this from the point of conception? [b]So men should owe child support the day of conception now right?[/b]

I would be in favor of that

Shut down 90% of abortions and in turn make men financially responsible?

Your terms are fully acceptable.

amen

(06-24-2022 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:58 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:54 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:49 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote:  This is still one issue I wish the Republicans didn't care so much about.

Ok so abortions are banned now. Now we're going to get more kids raised by psychotic lunatic far-left women. How is this a good thing? Also means more future Democrat voters.

Adoption, I mean it shouldnt be too hard for a mother to give up her kid if she didnt want the baby in the first place right?

A large percentage of them still won't give it up for adoption. I just see a very high percentage of these kids becoming very far left Democrat voters in the future.

Wait...wait...haven't you heard? Democrats want more abortions...especially of black and brown fetuses so they diminish their voting base. It's all quite a clever scheme when you think about it...a sure fire method to own the cons!

Um...hold on Sherlock...you may want to ask which States will abortionbaby-murder continue be promoted in and which babies will continue to be murdered in those States reducing their potential population by almost half? Meanwhile, which States will ban/severely restrict the baby murders and who are the voters in the majority in those States?

W/ the increase of white liberal women & a strangle-hold on universities, media, corporations, etc., they can afford a decrease in their minority voting block, which holds steady in elections as a %. FACT

(06-24-2022 02:18 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:24 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  Guessing some of the people on here praising the decision are going to themselves or their kids literally **** around and find out.

Best of luck.

Better than murdering my grandkids, I suppose.

But I'm a pushover for basic human rights...like breathing.

Breathing you say. Interesting. When do fetuses actually start breathing?

When do they have brains, and their hearts start beating? When do they feel pain?

When do they live on their own without breathing?

I am fully in favor of making the "sperm donors" 50% financially responsible for raising their children from confirmation of their parentage and 70% responsible if they don't want to participate in the child's life.

Most of the problems we face in this country are related to too many men shirking their responsibilities as men.

(06-24-2022 02:17 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:36 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  LOL how many woman died during childbirth last year, 0? It goes back to the states skyscreamer.

Considerably more than zero, 861 in the US in 2020 -

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/mat...s-2020.htm

This will surely go up now, if women who die from unsafe back-alley abortions are classified as maternal deaths.

861 versus millions of dead babies? I'll still take those odds.

Tell me Satan, how many of them would still be alive if they only used contraception during sex? Probably all of them, huh?

Congratulations, you are a proud member of the "Bola de Pendejos Club".

Pretty sure contraception and pregnancy is a 2 way street. Are we going to have an extreme rethinking of the mans financial role in all this from the point of conception? So men should owe child support the day of conception now right?

Yup. You should also now be able to claim a tax deduction for your fetus as well.

Fair point, if life starts at conception that's a dependent the second an egg is fertilized.

(06-24-2022 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:18 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:24 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  Guessing some of the people on here praising the decision are going to themselves or their kids literally **** around and find out.

Best of luck.

Better than murdering my grandkids, I suppose.

But I'm a pushover for basic human rights...like breathing.

Breathing you say. Interesting. When do fetuses actually start breathing?

When do they have brains, and their hearts start beating? When do they feel pain?

When do they live on their own without breathing?

When they are born. Doesn't make them any less HUMAN that they must spend time growing inside their mothers. Only a sick or evil piece of **** can't acknowledge the humanity of another person based on needs.

(06-24-2022 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:18 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:24 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  Guessing some of the people on here praising the decision are going to themselves or their kids literally **** around and find out.

Best of luck.

Better than murdering my grandkids, I suppose.

But I'm a pushover for basic human rights...like breathing.

Breathing you say. Interesting. When do fetuses actually start breathing?

When do they have brains, and their hearts start beating? When do they feel pain?

When do they live on their own without breathing?

Can this be applied to liberals who cant live on their own without "support"?

(06-24-2022 02:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:24 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  Guessing some of the people on here praising the decision are going to themselves or their kids literally **** around and find out.

Best of luck.

Better than murdering my grandkids, I suppose.

But I'm a pushover for basic human rights...like breathing.

Breathing you say. Interesting. When do fetuses actually start breathing?

Vile. You're an embarrassment to your so called faith, Tom. Those innocent children were created in His image regardless of what their circumstances would be after birth. We need to do all we can to preserve the lives of the peak of His creation.

Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: And the fruit of the womb is his reward.
Psalm 127:3 KJV

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Jeremiah 1:5 KJV

These six things doth the LORD hate: Yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood,
Proverbs 6:16‭-‬17 KJV

Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.
Isaiah 49:15 KJV

I don't think you're a Christian at all. In fact I believe you're one that we have been warned about.

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(06-24-2022 02:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:17 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  Considerably more than zero, 861 in the US in 2020 -

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/mat...s-2020.htm

This will surely go up now, if women who die from unsafe back-alley abortions are classified as maternal deaths.

861 versus millions of dead babies? I'll still take those odds.

Tell me Satan, how many of them would still be alive if they only used contraception during sex? Probably all of them, huh?

Congratulations, you are a proud member of the "Bola de Pendejos Club".

Pretty sure contraception and pregnancy is a 2 way street. Are we going to have an extreme rethinking of the mans financial role in all this from the point of conception? So men should owe child support the day of conception now right?

Yup. You should also now be able to claim a tax deduction for your fetus as well.

Fair point, if life starts at conception that's a dependent the second an egg is fertilized.

I'd have zero problem with that considering there is medical care needed for pregnant mothers.

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(06-24-2022 02:24 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:18 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Better than murdering my grandkids, I suppose.

But I'm a pushover for basic human rights...like breathing.

Breathing you say. Interesting. When do fetuses actually start breathing?

When do they have brains, and their hearts start beating? When do they feel pain?

When do they live on their own without breathing?

When they are born. Doesn't make them any less HUMAN that they must spend time growing inside their mothers. Only a sick or evil piece of **** can't acknowledge the humanity of another person based on needs.

I completely get it. That's why my position is that after a certain number of weeks when the baby can be born and breath on its own, no abortions unless the pregnancy was from rape/incest or if the life of the mother/baby is at stake under consultation from medical personnel.

And further, if it were me, being a guy who can't have one of course, I would never counsel anyone to have one outside of those qualifiers I mentioned above. But in the end, it's not up to me.