(06-24-2022 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:28 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:16 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.

Women with means will still be able to get to blue states to get the operation performed. This includes the mistresses and the daughters of prominent GOP donors and members of congress.

And lastly, hopefully this motivates the 2/3rds of Americans who did not want to see Roe v Wade overturned to show up to the polls. I still think the Dems are going to take a beating in November but this will definitely blunt it IMO.

Maybe.... just maybe.... the current and future generations of children, teens, and young adults will learn there are actual consequences for behaviors. Maybe just... maybe... parents actually teach their kids about personal responsibility and the outcome is all of society is enriched with responsible human beings.

But hey you do you

You CANNOT be this naïve. Especially if you think this ruling is going to change ANY of that.

It will. You remove a safety net and the acrobat tends to become more careful.

Yeah...okay...when a couple is being sexual with other...many times with alcohol involved...they're going to suddenly stop and say, wait, SCOTUS ruled. We have to stop now and go get a condom! Puhleeze!

Hopefully those same people don't have a driver's license then if they are that incompetent in making good decisions ahead of and while being intoxicated. Can't cover everything. Stupid is going to still be stupid - and like most things in life have to live with the consequences of their actions.

(06-24-2022 11:31 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 11:13 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  If the court exceeded its authority on ANYTHING then it should be up for review.

The Constitution is very clear on what authority is granted to the federal government. Everything else is left to the states.

Courts shouldn't MAKE law. They should only rule on whether or not something is legal within the framework of the state or US constitutions.

Would you like to see Loving v Virginia reversed? Send it back to the States?

If I had to guess I'm going to say that it was Democrats who opposed that. Let's see...

Quote:The case involved Mildred Loving, a woman of color,[note 1] and her white husband Richard Loving, who in 1958 were sentenced to a year in prison for marrying each other. Their marriage violated Virginia's Racial Integrity Act of 1924, which criminalized marriage between people classified as "white" and people classified as "colored". The Lovings appealed their conviction to the Supreme Court of Virginia, which upheld it. They then appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, which agreed to hear their case.

In June 1967, the Supreme Court issued a unanimous decision in the Lovings' favor and overturned their convictions. Its decision struck down Virginia's anti-miscegenation law and ended all race-based legal restrictions on marriage in the United States.

Yep! Democrats!

Why should marriage between people of different races be banned? Male and female... throughout the history of the world people of the same race and people of different races have been married.

Leave it to the slaver KKK Dems for getting it wrong.

(06-24-2022 01:47 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:49 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote:  This is still one issue I wish the Republicans didn't care so much about.

Ok so abortions are banned now. Now we're going to get more kids raised by psychotic lunatic far-left women. How is this a good thing? Also means more future Democrat voters.

Abortions aren’t banned. Abortions also aren’t in the Constitution. Never has been.

why argue or explain anything in context matter with these stoooopid fks?!

it was always a 10a issue ... it's nothing more than, "about g'dammed time" (I'll dig up posts if anyone challenges my position from day 1 on this one, too!)

disclaimer: pro-choice within reason

what I see as THEE most important issue?! the lack of ability for the avg. joe to have any fk'n clue why maintaining the 'validity' of the constitution should be THEE #1 of importance to ALL 'muricans...

(06-24-2022 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:49 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote:  This is still one issue I wish the Republicans didn't care so much about.

Ok so abortions are banned now. Now we're going to get more kids raised by psychotic lunatic far-left women. How is this a good thing? Also means more future Democrat voters.

Right here is where you lost everyone and went of into fantasy land.

People have lost the ability to read and process without making things up.

(06-24-2022 01:35 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 11:30 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Planned Parenthood was the Plaintiff in this case correct?

One could argue if Planned Parenthood had compromised with the state of MS and accepted the 15 week threshold, we wouldn't be here now.

Refusing to compromise is risky

Excellent point!

Yup. Same point was made about the conceal carry issue in NY yesterday.

It’s now a recognized Constitutional right to carry and it was the peoples republic of New Yawk that made that possible.

Good news!

(06-24-2022 01:58 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:49 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote:  This is still one issue I wish the Republicans didn't care so much about.

Ok so abortions are banned now. Now we're going to get more kids raised by psychotic lunatic far-left women. How is this a good thing? Also means more future Democrat voters.

Right here is where you lost everyone and went of into fantasy land.

People have lost the ability to read and process without making things up.

Its like the guy took a class on abortion law from RedWingTom's university of insurance deductibles.

I wonder at what point will the terrorists stop celebrating the fact that rights are being stripped away and realize that "hello?!", rights are being taken away by what amounts to a "Guardian Council" of Iran here in this country. What right are they going to go after next? Who knows. But what is known, is that you have no say in the matter and worst yet, they proudly admit they are governed by "tradition" (whatever that means) rather than public safety.

(06-24-2022 10:59 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:34 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.

Its like some of the low iq people in this nation has never heard of adoption.

Not sure how current these numbers are, but...

Quote:Of the 400,000 children in foster care, approximately 117,000 are waiting to be adopted.

https://www.adoptuskids.org/meet-the-chi...20adopted.

Then clean THAT up. There’s a very good reason those who can’t have children of their own end up in Russia, Korea or wherever else to adopt and raise families. That’s NO reason to continue to kill babies.

Fix the adoption system, there are millions of people and couples looking to adopt all the time.

that makes too much sense - not 'cents'...

many other posters have mentioned this as well .... #commonSense

(06-24-2022 02:00 PM)scorpius Wrote:  I wonder at what point will the terrorists stop celebrating the fact that rights are being stripped away and realize that "hello?!", rights are being taken away by what amounts to a "Guardian Council" of Iran here in this country. What right are they going to go after next? Who knows. But what is known, is that you have no say in the matter and worst yet, they proudly admit they are governed by "tradition" (whatever that means) rather than public safety.

I'm sorry, I didn't get to pop your vaj today ... #nowSwollenClit (silence is a biatch, Ja?!)

(06-24-2022 12:17 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.

Women with means will still be able to get to blue states to get the operation performed. This includes the mistresses and the daughters of prominent GOP donors and members of congress.

And lastly, hopefully this motivates the 2/3rds of Americans who did not want to see Roe v Wade overturned to show up to the polls. I still think the Dems are going to take a beating in November but this will definitely blunt it IMO.

What about women being responsible for whether they get pregnant in the first place?

Not to mention, there are long lines of good people wanting to adopt.

Plus, they can always get in a car and go to a blue state.

Pretty certain there's gotta be some semen from somewhere to get a woman pregnant. So are we going to have a complete revamp of the mans financial responsibility for getting a woman pregnant in these states where abortion gets outlawed?

Also I like the "just carry the baby to term and give it up for adoption" pretending that getting medical care being pregnant is just free or something and that there are zero short and long term health risks from being pregnant even aside from just the potential of dying during childbirth (which in a lot of the states that will ban abortion their mortality rates are at the level of some 3rd world countries).

https://gradynewsource.uga.edu/in-georgi...ave-lives/

I agree. No more out-of-wedlock births and single mothers raising children. Force men to be fathers and husbands. That's one of the BEST things we could do to turn this nation around.

No more following the Marxist philosophy of "abolishing the family."

In case you aren't aware, that's exactly what Crisis Pregnancy Centers do. You know, those places the radical marxist leftist terrorists have been vandalizing and fire-bombing? They help women thru their pregnancies -- emotionally, financially and medically.

As far as health affects from being pregnant -- actually there's more a detrimental health risk to women that have never given birth. Having an abortion and not actually giving birth is very harmful to a woman's future health.

As far as the potential of dying during childbirth... yes, it happens. But thankfully it's so low statistically. And somehow the human race has flourished in spite of that "threat".

Per the CDC
In 2020, 861 women were identified as having died of maternal causes in the United States, compared with 754 in 2019

Guttmacher Institute
US Abortions in 2020 - 930,160

(06-24-2022 02:00 PM)scorpius Wrote:  I wonder at what point will the terrorists stop celebrating the fact that rights are being stripped away and realize that "hello?!", rights are being taken away by what amounts to a "Guardian Council" of Iran here in this country. What right are they going to go after next? Who knows. But what is known, is that you have no say in the matter and worst yet, they proudly admit they are governed by "tradition" (whatever that means) rather than public safety.

Right retained: To defend myself and my family from harm and murder.

"Right" supposedly lost: To ignore your responsibilities by murdering your own child.

The Left sure is making "Guardian Council" rule look attractive these days.

(06-24-2022 12:24 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  Guessing some of the people on here praising the decision are going to themselves or their kids literally **** around and find out.

Best of luck.

Better than murdering my grandkids, I suppose.

But I'm a pushover for basic human rights...like breathing.

(06-24-2022 12:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:36 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.

Women with means will still be able to get to blue states to get the operation performed. This includes the mistresses and the daughters of prominent GOP donors and members of congress.

And lastly, hopefully this motivates the 2/3rds of Americans who did not want to see Roe v Wade overturned to show up to the polls. I still think the Dems are going to take a beating in November but this will definitely blunt it IMO.

LOL how many woman died during childbirth last year, 0? It goes back to the states skyscreamer.

Considerably more than zero, 861 in the US in 2020 -

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/mat...s-2020.htm

This will surely go up now, if women who die from unsafe back-alley abortions are classified as maternal deaths.

861 versus millions of dead babies? I'll still take those odds.

Tell me Satan, how many of them would still be alive if they only used contraception during sex? Probably all of them, huh?

Congratulations, you are a proud member of the "Bola de Pendejos Club".

Pretty sure contraception and pregnancy is a 2 way street. Are we going to have an extreme rethinking of the mans financial role in all this from the point of conception? So men should owe child support the day of conception now right?

(06-24-2022 12:54 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:49 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote:  This is still one issue I wish the Republicans didn't care so much about.

Ok so abortions are banned now. Now we're going to get more kids raised by psychotic lunatic far-left women. How is this a good thing? Also means more future Democrat voters.

Adoption, I mean it shouldnt be too hard for a mother to give up her kid if she didnt want the baby in the first place right?

Right. I hear they just get pregnant, pop out the kid, and hand it off to the agency. It all happens very very fast and easy.

(06-24-2022 02:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

We'll see, I'm sure.

(06-24-2022 12:58 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:54 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:49 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote:  This is still one issue I wish the Republicans didn't care so much about.

Ok so abortions are banned now. Now we're going to get more kids raised by psychotic lunatic far-left women. How is this a good thing? Also means more future Democrat voters.

Adoption, I mean it shouldnt be too hard for a mother to give up her kid if she didnt want the baby in the first place right?

A large percentage of them still won't give it up for adoption. I just see a very high percentage of these kids becoming very far left Democrat voters in the future.

Wait...wait...haven't you heard? Democrats want more abortions...especially of black and brown fetuses so they diminish their voting base. It's all quite a clever scheme when you think about it...a sure fire method to own the cons!

(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:36 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.

Women with means will still be able to get to blue states to get the operation performed. This includes the mistresses and the daughters of prominent GOP donors and members of congress.

And lastly, hopefully this motivates the 2/3rds of Americans who did not want to see Roe v Wade overturned to show up to the polls. I still think the Dems are going to take a beating in November but this will definitely blunt it IMO.

LOL how many woman died during childbirth last year, 0? It goes back to the states skyscreamer.

Considerably more than zero, 861 in the US in 2020 -

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/mat...s-2020.htm

This will surely go up now, if women who die from unsafe back-alley abortions are classified as maternal deaths.

861 versus millions of dead babies? I'll still take those odds.

Tell me Satan, how many of them would still be alive if they only used contraception during sex? Probably all of them, huh?

Congratulations, you are a proud member of the "Bola de Pendejos Club".

Pretty sure contraception and pregnancy is a 2 way street. Are we going to have an extreme rethinking of the mans financial role in all this from the point of conception? [b]So men should owe child support the day of conception now right?[/b]

I would be in favor of that

(06-24-2022 09:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:34 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.

Its like some of the low iq people in this nation has never heard of adoption.

Not sure how current these numbers are, but...

Quote:Of the 400,000 children in foster care, approximately 117,000 are waiting to be adopted.

https://www.adoptuskids.org/meet-the-chi...20adopted.

You've clearly not researched or seriously looked into adoption. There's literally a waiting list for babies in the millions of couples. Most of those still in the system were abandoned later, parents died, were taken from family, etc, etc. I'm not talk. My wife and I started going down that road.

You people absolutely disgust me. Personal responsibility? Nope. Can't have that. Let's kill the innocent child. You're no Christian, Tom.

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(06-24-2022 02:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:24 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  Guessing some of the people on here praising the decision are going to themselves or their kids literally **** around and find out.

Best of luck.

Better than murdering my grandkids, I suppose.

But I'm a pushover for basic human rights...like breathing.

Breathing you say. Interesting. When do fetuses actually start breathing?