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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-09-2021 05:39 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 03:18 PM)ATXTigers Wrote:  Earl Timberlake 6-6 G So. (starter) 26 min
Landers Nolley II 6-7 220 G R-Jr. (starter) 24 min
Lester Quinones 6-5 205 G Jr. (starter) 26 min
DeAndre Williams 6-9 190 F Sr. (starter) 27 min
Malcolm Dandridge 6-9 232 C Jr. (starter) 17 min
Alex Lomax 6-0 190 G Sr. (2nd rotation) 25 min
Chandler Lawson 6-8 F Jr. (2nd) 20 min
Johnathan Lawson 6-6 F Fr. (2nd) 15 min
Josh Minott 6-9 G Fr. (2nd) 20 min
Sam Onu 6-11 C Fr.
Tyler Harris 5-10 G Jr.
John Camden 6-8 F Fr.
Jayden Hardaway 6-5 195 G Jr.

Going to be hard to get minutes on this team. I think everyone sleeps on Malcolm but I think he is one of the better passers on the team. A high low with him and DeAndrea with three other shooters on the floor would be fun to watch. Big Sam could get some minutes based on matchup. But I imagine if we don't get Jalen, DeAndre will be playing a lot of C to get the most flexible lineup on the floor. Eight guys listed between 6-6 to 6-9, those are a lot of long arms in passing lanes. I think we could be even better on defense this year.

* Jalen Duren (if he's on the team push Malcolm down to (2nd))

If we are playing Williams 23 minutes at center, we have problems at center and will be weaker at the 4 without him. Dyren would probably solve that. Otherwise, we need at least 30 minutes out of Dandridge and Sam.

Also, we will have to play Lomax more. The other guys aren't good enough ballhandlers, or quick enough to create offense against opponents that play good perimeter defense.

The guard position, especially point, is going to be tricky. Lomax has no offensive skill. Hard for him to create with his size and the fact teams will play off of him daring him to shoot. He’ll play but doesn’t need to get starter minutes.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-09-2021 05:39 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 03:18 PM)ATXTigers Wrote:  Earl Timberlake 6-6 G So. (starter) 26 min
Landers Nolley II 6-7 220 G R-Jr. (starter) 24 min
Lester Quinones 6-5 205 G Jr. (starter) 26 min
DeAndre Williams 6-9 190 F Sr. (starter) 27 min
Malcolm Dandridge 6-9 232 C Jr. (starter) 17 min
Alex Lomax 6-0 190 G Sr. (2nd rotation) 25 min
Chandler Lawson 6-8 F Jr. (2nd) 20 min
Johnathan Lawson 6-6 F Fr. (2nd) 15 min
Josh Minott 6-9 G Fr. (2nd) 20 min
Sam Onu 6-11 C Fr.
Tyler Harris 5-10 G Jr.
John Camden 6-8 F Fr.
Jayden Hardaway 6-5 195 G Jr.

Going to be hard to get minutes on this team. I think everyone sleeps on Malcolm but I think he is one of the better passers on the team. A high low with him and DeAndrea with three other shooters on the floor would be fun to watch. Big Sam could get some minutes based on matchup. But I imagine if we don't get Jalen, DeAndre will be playing a lot of C to get the most flexible lineup on the floor. Eight guys listed between 6-6 to 6-9, those are a lot of long arms in passing lanes. I think we could be even better on defense this year.

* Jalen Duren (if he's on the team push Malcolm down to (2nd))

If we are playing Williams 23 minutes at center, we have problems at center and will be weaker at the 4 without him. Dyren would probably solve that. Otherwise, we need at least 30 minutes out of Dandridge and Sam.

Also, we will have to play Lomax more. The other guys aren't good enough ballhandlers, or quick enough to create offense against opponents that play good perimeter defense.

I strongly agree on both counts.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-10-2021 10:11 AM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 05:39 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 03:18 PM)ATXTigers Wrote:  Earl Timberlake 6-6 G So. (starter) 26 min
Landers Nolley II 6-7 220 G R-Jr. (starter) 24 min
Lester Quinones 6-5 205 G Jr. (starter) 26 min
DeAndre Williams 6-9 190 F Sr. (starter) 27 min
Malcolm Dandridge 6-9 232 C Jr. (starter) 17 min
Alex Lomax 6-0 190 G Sr. (2nd rotation) 25 min
Chandler Lawson 6-8 F Jr. (2nd) 20 min
Johnathan Lawson 6-6 F Fr. (2nd) 15 min
Josh Minott 6-9 G Fr. (2nd) 20 min
Sam Onu 6-11 C Fr.
Tyler Harris 5-10 G Jr.
John Camden 6-8 F Fr.
Jayden Hardaway 6-5 195 G Jr.

Going to be hard to get minutes on this team. I think everyone sleeps on Malcolm but I think he is one of the better passers on the team. A high low with him and DeAndrea with three other shooters on the floor would be fun to watch. Big Sam could get some minutes based on matchup. But I imagine if we don't get Jalen, DeAndre will be playing a lot of C to get the most flexible lineup on the floor. Eight guys listed between 6-6 to 6-9, those are a lot of long arms in passing lanes. I think we could be even better on defense this year.

* Jalen Duren (if he's on the team push Malcolm down to (2nd))

If we are playing Williams 23 minutes at center, we have problems at center and will be weaker at the 4 without him. Dyren would probably solve that. Otherwise, we need at least 30 minutes out of Dandridge and Sam.

Also, we will have to play Lomax more. The other guys aren't good enough ballhandlers, or quick enough to create offense against opponents that play good perimeter defense.

The guard position, especially point, is going to be tricky. Lomax has no offensive skill. Hard for him to create with his size and the fact teams will play off of him daring him to shoot. He’ll play but doesn’t need to get starter minutes.

That is a dramatic understatement of his skills. Alo can be a very effective PG when he plays his role and within himself which he started doing at the end of last year. Alo's problems come about when he tries to transform into Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook and starts playing out of control for his ability.

Alo can be very effective when he is focused on breaking down defenses and setting up others and then taking shots when they allow instead of trying to get his shots and then look for others.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-09-2021 01:23 PM)holyterror Wrote:  If the draft projections are accurate, and if he’s fully healed, I think Earl’s gotta be a starter.

I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-10-2021 10:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 01:23 PM)holyterror Wrote:  If the draft projections are accurate, and if he’s fully healed, I think Earl’s gotta be a starter.

I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.

Extreme strength with extreme length.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-10-2021 10:11 AM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 05:39 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 03:18 PM)ATXTigers Wrote:  Earl Timberlake 6-6 G So. (starter) 26 min
Landers Nolley II 6-7 220 G R-Jr. (starter) 24 min
Lester Quinones 6-5 205 G Jr. (starter) 26 min
DeAndre Williams 6-9 190 F Sr. (starter) 27 min
Malcolm Dandridge 6-9 232 C Jr. (starter) 17 min
Alex Lomax 6-0 190 G Sr. (2nd rotation) 25 min
Chandler Lawson 6-8 F Jr. (2nd) 20 min
Johnathan Lawson 6-6 F Fr. (2nd) 15 min
Josh Minott 6-9 G Fr. (2nd) 20 min
Sam Onu 6-11 C Fr.
Tyler Harris 5-10 G Jr.
John Camden 6-8 F Fr.
Jayden Hardaway 6-5 195 G Jr.

Going to be hard to get minutes on this team. I think everyone sleeps on Malcolm but I think he is one of the better passers on the team. A high low with him and DeAndrea with three other shooters on the floor would be fun to watch. Big Sam could get some minutes based on matchup. But I imagine if we don't get Jalen, DeAndre will be playing a lot of C to get the most flexible lineup on the floor. Eight guys listed between 6-6 to 6-9, those are a lot of long arms in passing lanes. I think we could be even better on defense this year.

* Jalen Duren (if he's on the team push Malcolm down to (2nd))

If we are playing Williams 23 minutes at center, we have problems at center and will be weaker at the 4 without him. Dyren would probably solve that. Otherwise, we need at least 30 minutes out of Dandridge and Sam.

Also, we will have to play Lomax more. The other guys aren't good enough ballhandlers, or quick enough to create offense against opponents that play good perimeter defense.

The guard position, especially point, is going to be tricky. Lomax has no offensive skill. Hard for him to create with his size and the fact teams will play off of him daring him to shoot. He’ll play but doesn’t need to get starter minutes.

The exact opposite is true. Posters can repeat this all they want, but when they do it is because they didn't pay attention the last 1/3 of the season. In his last 8 games he averaged 9 points, 5.2 assists, 2.4 turnovers, 3.5 rebounds and shot 59% from the field. The offense ran effectively when it was run through Lomax, Williams and to a lesser extent, DJ. Boogie and Baugh were completely ineffective.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-10-2021 12:07 AM)ATXTigers Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 11:02 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 10:02 PM)ATXTigers Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 09:34 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  Love this thread....Cant wait until we face a zone and have trouble...Camden comes in and changes things...

Yeah, I'm really interested in how all the Freshmen come along. I didn't put any numbers on John or Sam since I'm just not sure. Obviously, Josh and Jonathan are going to get minutes. If both John and Sam are able to contribute you are going to have a lot of mouths to feed. We haven't even mentioned Tyler, but I think he will be happy to get any minutes at this point.

Everybody is talking about the point depending on ALO....I can see Tyler in that spot a lot of times...I just hope Penny has learned not to play them both at same time.

Tyler's averages more TO than AST for his career don't know if I want him handling the ball. I would still want someone else as the main ball handlers cough cough Lester and we could have him running off screens shooting. If he does get hot watch out!

Tyler isn't great at creating for others, but he is probably better at breaking the press than LQ or Nolley. It might work very well to have him bring the ball up, with Williams at the point when we set up. Williams will find him when he is open from outside.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-10-2021 10:22 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 10:11 AM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 05:39 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 03:18 PM)ATXTigers Wrote:  Earl Timberlake 6-6 G So. (starter) 26 min
Landers Nolley II 6-7 220 G R-Jr. (starter) 24 min
Lester Quinones 6-5 205 G Jr. (starter) 26 min
DeAndre Williams 6-9 190 F Sr. (starter) 27 min
Malcolm Dandridge 6-9 232 C Jr. (starter) 17 min
Alex Lomax 6-0 190 G Sr. (2nd rotation) 25 min
Chandler Lawson 6-8 F Jr. (2nd) 20 min
Johnathan Lawson 6-6 F Fr. (2nd) 15 min
Josh Minott 6-9 G Fr. (2nd) 20 min
Sam Onu 6-11 C Fr.
Tyler Harris 5-10 G Jr.
John Camden 6-8 F Fr.
Jayden Hardaway 6-5 195 G Jr.

Going to be hard to get minutes on this team. I think everyone sleeps on Malcolm but I think he is one of the better passers on the team. A high low with him and DeAndrea with three other shooters on the floor would be fun to watch. Big Sam could get some minutes based on matchup. But I imagine if we don't get Jalen, DeAndre will be playing a lot of C to get the most flexible lineup on the floor. Eight guys listed between 6-6 to 6-9, those are a lot of long arms in passing lanes. I think we could be even better on defense this year.

* Jalen Duren (if he's on the team push Malcolm down to (2nd))

If we are playing Williams 23 minutes at center, we have problems at center and will be weaker at the 4 without him. Dyren would probably solve that. Otherwise, we need at least 30 minutes out of Dandridge and Sam.

Also, we will have to play Lomax more. The other guys aren't good enough ballhandlers, or quick enough to create offense against opponents that play good perimeter defense.

The guard position, especially point, is going to be tricky. Lomax has no offensive skill. Hard for him to create with his size and the fact teams will play off of him daring him to shoot. He’ll play but doesn’t need to get starter minutes.

That is a dramatic understatement of his skills. Alo can be a very effective PG when he plays his role and within himself which he started doing at the end of last year. Alo's problems come about when he tries to transform into Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook and starts playing out of control for his ability.

Alo can be very effective when he is focused on breaking down defenses and setting up others and then taking shots when they allow instead of trying to get his shots and then look for others.

More than anyone, Lomax was the most affected negatively by our bad offense, and more than anyone, benefitted when we switched it up. A lot of his poor shot selection came as a result of other players not moving without the ball. Baugh, Boogie and DJ were very poor without the ball, before we switched offenses.
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(07-10-2021 10:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 01:23 PM)holyterror Wrote:  If the draft projections are accurate, and if he’s fully healed, I think Earl’s gotta be a starter.

I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.

From all the game video I've seen, Timberlake reminds me a lot of Geron Johnson. He isn't quite as explosive, and he holds onto the ball a bit too long, but he is a better ball handler. Neither shoot great, both are super strong. His shooting is horrible, but that was because of his shoulder injury. When he is healed, he should be pretty good. As a point guard running the offense, I see him as a slightly lesser version of Chris Crawford.

I don't see him as a point guard or as a power forward, but he will probably get a few minutes at both positions. I would imagine that the bulk of his minutes will be at the 2-3.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-10-2021 10:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 01:23 PM)holyterror Wrote:  If the draft projections are accurate, and if he’s fully healed, I think Earl’s gotta be a starter.

I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.

I believe going into last season he was on several as a potential one and done player but then struggled with injuries and just never got going. I think it really hinges on how healthy he is.
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(07-10-2021 12:09 PM)holyterror Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 10:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 01:23 PM)holyterror Wrote:  If the draft projections are accurate, and if he’s fully healed, I think Earl’s gotta be a starter.

I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.

Extreme strength with extreme length.

So if you think (as I understand it) Timberlake will start ... who do you project as the other four starters?
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(07-10-2021 01:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 10:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 01:23 PM)holyterror Wrote:  If the draft projections are accurate, and if he’s fully healed, I think Earl’s gotta be a starter.

I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.

From all the game video I've seen, Timberlake reminds me a lot of Geron Johnson. He isn't quite as explosive, and he holds onto the ball a bit too long, but he is a better ball handler. Neither shoot great, both are super strong. His shooting is horrible, but that was because of his shoulder injury. When he is healed, he should be pretty good. As a point guard running the offense, I see him as a slightly lesser version of Chris Crawford.

I don't see him as a point guard or as a power forward, but he will probably get a few minutes at both positions. I would imagine that the bulk of his minutes will be at the 2-3.


If Timberlake can play four positions — even only fairly well — he will be a major addition to the Tiger roster. I simply assumed he was a 2/3 position player.
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(07-10-2021 04:44 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 10:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 01:23 PM)holyterror Wrote:  If the draft projections are accurate, and if he’s fully healed, I think Earl’s gotta be a starter.

I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.

I believe going into last season he was on several as a potential one and done player but then struggled with injuries and just never got going. I think it really hinges on how healthy he is.


Good point. And any player 1. coming off and injury and 2. entering a new program ... lots of question marks. For those two reasons, I'm not as high on Earl T. as some others on this board are. I hope ET proves me wrong.
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(07-10-2021 09:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 04:44 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 10:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 01:23 PM)holyterror Wrote:  If the draft projections are accurate, and if he’s fully healed, I think Earl’s gotta be a starter.

I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.

I believe going into last season he was on several as a potential one and done player but then struggled with injuries and just never got going. I think it really hinges on how healthy he is.


Good point. And any player 1. coming off and injury and 2. entering a new program ... lots of question marks. For those two reasons, I'm not as high on Earl T. as some others on this board are. I hope ET proves me wrong.

If Timberlake can replace what DJ was at the end of last year I will be happy
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(07-10-2021 09:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 09:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 04:44 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 10:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 01:23 PM)holyterror Wrote:  If the draft projections are accurate, and if he’s fully healed, I think Earl’s gotta be a starter.

I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.

I believe going into last season he was on several as a potential one and done player but then struggled with injuries and just never got going. I think it really hinges on how healthy he is.


Good point. And any player 1. coming off and injury and 2. entering a new program ... lots of question marks. For those two reasons, I'm not as high on Earl T. as some others on this board are. I hope ET proves me wrong.

If Timberlake can replace what DJ was at the end of last year I will be happy

Timberlake is more of a true wing. You'll be disappointed if you think he'll be DJ-like inside.
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(07-11-2021 07:28 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 09:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 09:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 04:44 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 10:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.

I believe going into last season he was on several as a potential one and done player but then struggled with injuries and just never got going. I think it really hinges on how healthy he is.


Good point. And any player 1. coming off and injury and 2. entering a new program ... lots of question marks. For those two reasons, I'm not as high on Earl T. as some others on this board are. I hope ET proves me wrong.

If Timberlake can replace what DJ was at the end of last year I will be happy

Timberlake is more of a true wing. You'll be disappointed if you think he'll be DJ-like inside.

Heck, I was disappointed with DJ inside
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(07-11-2021 07:28 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 09:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 09:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 04:44 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 10:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.

I believe going into last season he was on several as a potential one and done player but then struggled with injuries and just never got going. I think it really hinges on how healthy he is.


Good point. And any player 1. coming off and injury and 2. entering a new program ... lots of question marks. For those two reasons, I'm not as high on Earl T. as some others on this board are. I hope ET proves me wrong.

If Timberlake can replace what DJ was at the end of last year I will be happy

Timberlake is more of a true wing. You'll be disappointed if you think he'll be DJ-like inside.

Offensively DJ wasn't really an inside guy. But he was a decent rebounder and shot blocker. Honestly I think DJ was more a perimeter oriented offensive player than Timberlake will be... Timberlake has never really been an outside shooter
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(07-10-2021 01:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 10:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 01:23 PM)holyterror Wrote:  If the draft projections are accurate, and if he’s fully healed, I think Earl’s gotta be a starter.

I just checked five mock 2022 NBA Draft websites and none has Timberlake as a projected first rounder (though Josh Minott is listed as a first-rounder in one of the five).

I'm not saying Earl won't be a starter. I'm just not convinced he is going to a be, say, a top three player for the team. If Timberlake joins Lester, Nolley and Williams as a member of what becomes a "Big Four," the Tigers will be extremely strong.

From all the game video I've seen, Timberlake reminds me a lot of Geron Johnson. He isn't quite as explosive, and he holds onto the ball a bit too long, but he is a better ball handler. Neither shoot great, both are super strong. His shooting is horrible, but that was because of his shoulder injury. When he is healed, he should be pretty good. As a point guard running the offense, I see him as a slightly lesser version of Chris Crawford.

I don't see him as a point guard or as a power forward, but he will probably get a few minutes at both positions. I would imagine that the bulk of his minutes will be at the 2-3.

1) If he is even close to Geron Johnson's intensity and heart we are getting a stud. Geron was a lot of fun to watch
2) Thoughts on Lomax and the last 1/3 of the season. He was terrific for that solid stretch. He also would benefit more if we were more productive because he can distribute the ball and seems to do a lot more when the offense is doing well, he does more of the smaller things well.
3) Challenge with Lomax is that it took time to get him here and is the last 1/3 of last season who he is or the other 2.67 seasons. I hope and bet its his maturation as well as having all new players almost every season.
4) Penny has proven he is an elite recruiter. Quantified
5) Penny has proven he is an elite defensive coach. Quantified
6) Penny has proven he is an elite "brand" ambassador of the city, university, team, nba and himself. Helps everyone involved

7) Penny needs to show he can put together a staff that can coach with adjustments at halftime
8) Penny needs to show he can win the really big games, consistently. Unfortunately there have not been enough of them to even try
9) Penny needs to show he can get to the tournament, which as long as they are not on probation, which is most likely coming they should be in with the talent, coaching maturation etc.

Penny was always a 4 to 5 year hire based on his lack of coaching experience in college.

He has not been to the tournament but he has hit so many homeruns on the other levels.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-10-2021 10:22 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 10:11 AM)bluetiger89 Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 05:39 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 03:18 PM)ATXTigers Wrote:  Earl Timberlake 6-6 G So. (starter) 26 min
Landers Nolley II 6-7 220 G R-Jr. (starter) 24 min
Lester Quinones 6-5 205 G Jr. (starter) 26 min
DeAndre Williams 6-9 190 F Sr. (starter) 27 min
Malcolm Dandridge 6-9 232 C Jr. (starter) 17 min
Alex Lomax 6-0 190 G Sr. (2nd rotation) 25 min
Chandler Lawson 6-8 F Jr. (2nd) 20 min
Johnathan Lawson 6-6 F Fr. (2nd) 15 min
Josh Minott 6-9 G Fr. (2nd) 20 min
Sam Onu 6-11 C Fr.
Tyler Harris 5-10 G Jr.
John Camden 6-8 F Fr.
Jayden Hardaway 6-5 195 G Jr.

Going to be hard to get minutes on this team. I think everyone sleeps on Malcolm but I think he is one of the better passers on the team. A high low with him and DeAndrea with three other shooters on the floor would be fun to watch. Big Sam could get some minutes based on matchup. But I imagine if we don't get Jalen, DeAndre will be playing a lot of C to get the most flexible lineup on the floor. Eight guys listed between 6-6 to 6-9, those are a lot of long arms in passing lanes. I think we could be even better on defense this year.

* Jalen Duren (if he's on the team push Malcolm down to (2nd))

If we are playing Williams 23 minutes at center, we have problems at center and will be weaker at the 4 without him. Dyren would probably solve that. Otherwise, we need at least 30 minutes out of Dandridge and Sam.

Also, we will have to play Lomax more. The other guys aren't good enough ballhandlers, or quick enough to create offense against opponents that play good perimeter defense.

The guard position, especially point, is going to be tricky. Lomax has no offensive skill. Hard for him to create with his size and the fact teams will play off of him daring him to shoot. He’ll play but doesn’t need to get starter minutes.

That is a dramatic understatement of his skills. Alo can be a very effective PG when he plays his role and within himself which he started doing at the end of last year. Alo's problems come about when he tries to transform into Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook and starts playing out of control for his ability.

Alo can be very effective when he is focused on breaking down defenses and setting up others and then taking shots when they allow instead of trying to get his shots and then look for others.

you said that perfectly. I don't know if some folks are thinking of the ALO before midyear. I thought he was our most effective player there for a stretch before he got hurt.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
Would I have preferred to have a transfer portal guy like Bolton? Absolutely.

However, the last 6 games before the Alo ankle injury:

25.3 Min
9.6 PPG (59.3% FG/64% FT/57.1% 3s)
3.6 RPG
4.5 APG
2.7 SPG
2.5 TO

If we get that out of him for an entire year then I don't think anyone can be too unhappy. He doesn't have to be a superstar, but just needs to run the offense efficiently and stay healthy.
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