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(04-24-2021 07:10 AM)bluelight Wrote:  

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(04-23-2021 08:40 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 03:44 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 08:58 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  It's the JJ quiet time!!! Happens every year.

I am only looking at the ODU board recruiting chart(nothing else). Look for yourself. Anytime I mention a recruit, it comes from ODU.

No, it doesn’t. Verbal commits doesn’t get updated when offers are pulled.

And I'm pretty sure they get their information from the recruit rather than the program. I remember reading that sometimes a recruit will list an offer that was never made, to bump their stock I assume.

Maybe you are right, but that information comes directly from ODU

Never before seen someone posts so much and knows so little.

(04-24-2021 07:10 AM)bluelight Wrote:  

(04-23-2021 09:35 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(04-23-2021 08:40 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 03:44 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 08:58 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  It's the JJ quiet time!!! Happens every year.

I am only looking at the ODU board recruiting chart(nothing else). Look for yourself. Anytime I mention a recruit, it comes from ODU.

No, it doesn’t. Verbal commits doesn’t get updated when offers are pulled.

And I'm pretty sure they get their information from the recruit rather than the program. I remember reading that sometimes a recruit will list an offer that was never made, to bump their stock I assume.

Maybe you are right, but that information comes directly from ODU

Nope. You’re wrong again. Most of the information Verbal Commits uses is from Twitter. Players tweet that they got an offer and they cite that as their source. ODU is not updating VC when we give or pull an offer.

(04-24-2021 01:06 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 07:10 AM)bluelight Wrote:  

(04-23-2021 09:35 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(04-23-2021 08:40 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 03:44 PM)bluelight Wrote:  I am only looking at the ODU board recruiting chart(nothing else). Look for yourself. Anytime I mention a recruit, it comes from ODU.

No, it doesn’t. Verbal commits doesn’t get updated when offers are pulled.

And I'm pretty sure they get their information from the recruit rather than the program. I remember reading that sometimes a recruit will list an offer that was never made, to bump their stock I assume.

Maybe you are right, but that information comes directly from ODU

Nope. You’re wrong again. Most of the information Verbal Commits uses is from Twitter. Players tweet that they got an offer and they cite that as their source. ODU is not updating VC when we give or pull an offer.

Tell me, why does ODU recruiting board tell you when they lose a recruit and tells where they are going? It comes from ODU.

ODU it's not even allowed but NCAA recruiting rules to share that information.

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(04-24-2021 05:26 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 01:06 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 07:10 AM)bluelight Wrote:  

(04-23-2021 09:35 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(04-23-2021 08:40 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  No, it doesn’t. Verbal commits doesn’t get updated when offers are pulled.

And I'm pretty sure they get their information from the recruit rather than the program. I remember reading that sometimes a recruit will list an offer that was never made, to bump their stock I assume.

Maybe you are right, but that information comes directly from ODU

Nope. You’re wrong again. Most of the information Verbal Commits uses is from Twitter. Players tweet that they got an offer and they cite that as their source. ODU is not updating VC when we give or pull an offer.

Tell me, why does ODU recruiting board tell you when they lose a recruit and tells where they are going? It comes from ODU.

Just accept that you are wrong

The commentary is just depressing and ignorant. People have absolutely zero clue about how recruiting works. ODU was obviously looking for 2 Point guards. I’m sure they offered 8 or 10 PGs. After 2 players commit, the other scholarships are no longer on the table. How hard is that to understand? Get a freaking clue. And to think that ODU is giving Verbal Recruits information is just laughable. Wow.

(04-24-2021 09:36 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  The commentary is just depressing and ignorant. People have absolutely zero clue about how recruiting works. ODU was obviously looking for 2 Point guards. I’m sure they offered 8 or 10 PGs. After 2 players commit, the other scholarships are no longer on the table. How hard is that to understand? Get a freaking clue. And to think that ODU is giving Verbal Recruits information is just laughable. Wow.

Not questioning how the portal works, but questioning why it isn't working for us! Why would JJ recruit 2 more PG on a guard loaded already team? Maybe one but not two, especially with our lack of size! JJ fails completely in all aspects of recruiting.

Strother and Curry were leaving at the end of last year, before the added year ruling. If they hope to play Hunter at both guard spots, primarily the 2, they would need 2 PGs. IMO nothing wrong with that strategy.

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(04-25-2021 07:42 AM)bench jockey Wrote:  Strother and Curry were leaving at the end of last year, before the added year ruling. If they hope to play Hunter at both guard spots, primarily the 2, they would need 2 PGs. IMO nothing wrong with that strategy.

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You have Hunter and Green and Wade and C Smith and Jadin Johnson and Imo Essien (all guards) and you need TWO more and no size help? That may make sense to you but not to me!

Listen, to use the old chiche they've forgotten more hoops than you and I know combined. I trust their judgment.

(04-25-2021 08:10 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  

(04-25-2021 07:42 AM)bench jockey Wrote:  Strother and Curry were leaving at the end of last year, before the added year ruling. If they hope to play Hunter at both guard spots, primarily the 2, they would need 2 PGs. IMO nothing wrong with that strategy.

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You have Hunter and Green and Wade and C Smith and Jadin Johnson and Imo Essien (all guards) and you need TWO more and no size help? That may make sense to you but not to me!

JJ must have at least 1 more grant, for 2021. On the ODU recruiting board, they now have lost the fifth recruit, in recent days. The latest recruit is a 6'9 player who choose Middle Tennessee. The longer we go, the weakest player, we will get. I do look at the board and continue to ask how we lose these player's. We had to recruit these player's, going to other school's (like Little Rock, Marshall and Middle Tennessee). Poor JJ,8 years of this, is too much! We need a coach that can relate and bring in top player's, not being beat out every time, I look at the board. If they are listed on the board, then we were recruiting them and beat out by lower schools. The player's that we lost in recruiting, had to be high on our list.

(04-25-2021 08:40 AM)bench jockey Wrote:  Listen, to use the old chiche they've forgotten more hoops than you and I know combined. I trust their judgment.

Based on where their judgement has taken us recently, I DON'T TRUST IT! That's my constant complaint on here. Nothing is improving under JJ. We are not going anywhere with a team full of non shooting 6'0"-6'5" players. Kalu and Trice are 6'8" at most and they are undersized for the position they have to play. They do a great job at it but it sure would be nice to give them a 6'10"-7'0" stud in the middle that can help them a little. JJ doesn't even try to get one. Content on his little men.

The recruit that went to MTSU we offered in April 2018, as reported by the recruit. Think things have changed.

2 types of card players. Those that flop pocket Aces and get excited and those that see the aces and only recall the bad flops or rivers that they lost with pocket aces. Same with recruiting. Can focus on the recruits we've landed and won or dwell on the ones we've lost. For every recruit we've lost another school is saying the same thing about the kids that chose us over them.

Do we want 4* kids every year? Yup. Can we always do better? Absolutely. But anyway. Message boards going to message board.

Carry on. :)

(04-25-2021 08:53 AM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  The recruit that went to MTSU we offered in April 2018, as reported by the recruit. Think things have changed.

Yep. That offer was pulled years ago.

I have never seen someone be so confident and wrong at the same time. If they were any more dense, they’d be a rock.

Regardless, I want to see us recruiting at a level that will put us in the at-large conversation again, and make VCU hate us instead of pity us. Losing 4 transfers, including our best player, off of a 4th place CUSA team and landing one isn't going to get it done.

JJ = March Sadness

If you watched ODU at all this year it was obvious we needed playmaking ability at the guard position. Since X green never developed and basically went into a shell, we had to watch Curry endlessly dribble the ball for a season and a half after J Wade went down. To me, Hunter was a breath of fresh air. We desperately needed more ball handlers and playmakers and hopefully we’ve found them to add to the mix.

Watching the Championship game and seeing the best teams play each other, a couple things really stood out. Both teams pretty much played perimeter oriented basketball. Baylor has two point guards on the floor at all times. Both teams played three guards, a stretch forward and a center the entire game. All those 6’10 players just rode the pine pretty much the entire time. ODU needs playmakers!!! Players that can get their own shot or get shots for others. This is college bball now. Show me a team that doesn’t have 3 point guards on the roster. We needed them and we got them. They also added two shooters and a big. I’m sure they are looking for a Reece replacement that can hopefully shoot better and defend a little better. That would be a successful recruiting haul IMO.

Baylor may have had one of the best 5 guard rotations I’ve ever seen. All 5 players were juniors or seniors. All 5 were transfers ironically. All of them could dribble, pass, shoot, and get into the lane and make a play for themself and or someone else. All of them are 6’4 or less. And 3 of them were on the court together at all times. This is how high level college hoops is played now. Gonzaga also played 3 guards at all times. They only went 4 deep however and their 4th guard was less experienced and it showed as he didn’t contribute much in the final four games. Their top 3 guards were obviously fantastic and played heavy minutes.

(04-25-2021 10:48 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Regardless, I want to see us recruiting at a level that will put us in the at-large conversation again, and make VCU hate us instead of pity us. Losing 4 transfers, including our best player, off of a 4th place CUSA team and landing one isn't going to get it done.

JJ = March Sadness

How will we ever replace those 4 transfers? Especially Reece, Strother, and Alvis

(04-25-2021 05:05 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(04-25-2021 10:48 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Regardless, I want to see us recruiting at a level that will put us in the at-large conversation again, and make VCU hate us instead of pity us. Losing 4 transfers, including our best player, off of a 4th place CUSA team and landing one isn't going to get it done.

JJ = March Sadness

How will we ever replace those 4 transfers? Especially Reece, Strother, and Alvis

It better be with 7 footers because if not someone is going to complain.

(04-25-2021 05:05 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(04-25-2021 10:48 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Regardless, I want to see us recruiting at a level that will put us in the at-large conversation again, and make VCU hate us instead of pity us. Losing 4 transfers, including our best player, off of a 4th place CUSA team and landing one isn't going to get it done.

JJ = March Sadness

How will we ever replace those 4 transfers? Especially Reece, Strother, and Alvis

I'd like to see us replace them with something.