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RE: Alternate History and Future College Sports Realignment Scenarios
(10-31-2020 12:58 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: Here’s my scenario: What if Oklahoma and Oklahoma St stayed in the SWC?
MVC consists of Iowa St, Missouri, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas St, Wash U, Grinnell, Drake
They lose Grinnell in 1939 and Wash U in 1947, but pick up Colorado in 1947 to maintain 7 members.
In 1952 they lose Drake and this is where I think things get a little speculative. Do they maybe add one or more of the schools that passed through the real MVC at this time? (Wich St, Tulsa, UNT, Cincy, Memphis, L’ville) I have to think that anywhere from 1-3 of those schools end up joining this alternative reality MVC in the 1950s or 60s.
Meanwhile in SWC country, TCU joins in 1923, TTU in 1956, and Houston in 1972 to make 11 members.
In the early 90s, when the first wave of modern expansion occurs the SWC is healthy—Arkansas has no interest in the SEC and it’s the SWC looking for a 12th.
The SEC takes SC, but with no prospects in the West They either have to make a real hard push for FSU or they settle for either WVU or VT for their 12th
Nebraska, the lone tent pole of the MVC, is a hot commodity for both the Big Ten and SWC. The SWC lands the Huskers and they establish this division set up:
North: Nebraska, Oklahoma, OK St, Arkansas, SMU, TCU
South: TTU, Texas, Baylor, Rice, Houston, TAMU
By this time, if not decades earlier, I think we have schools like Cincy, Louisville, and maybe even Memphis in the MVC.
in 2005, when the ACC expands to 12, the schools left behind in the Big East might have found themselves in a real pickle in Cincinnati and Louisville are already in the MVC. Instead of a Big East football rebuild, we might see Pitt/Cuse/Rutgers etc becomes MVC affiliates.
I have a scenario in which OU/OSU remain in the SWC, although the point of divergence from our timeline is earlier, with the creation of a major Northeast/eastern Midwest conference in the early 20th century.
(07-24-2020 01:26 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: Slightly modified present day scenario from a previous alternate history thread in which this topic arose:
ACC (9-game conference schedule, 2 protected crossovers per team)
Atlantic: Clemson (UGA/GT), South Carolina (UGA/GT), Miami-FL (UF/FSU), Virginia Tech (UF/FSU), NC State (Duke/UNC), Virginia (Duke/UNC)
Coastal: Georgia (Clemson/SC), Georgia Tech (Clemson/SC), Florida (Miami/VT), Florida State (Miami/VT), Duke (NCSU/UVA), North Carolina (NCSU/UVA)
Big 12 (8-game conference schedule, no protected crossovers)
East: Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin
West: Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Nebraska
Big East (9-game conference schedule, 2 protected crossovers per team)
East: Maryland (MSU/ND), Pittsburgh (ND/Temple), Penn State (Temple/Rutgers), Syracuse (Rutgers/BC), West Virginia (BC/UM), Ohio State (UM/MSU)
North: Notre Dame (UMD/Pitt), Temple (Pitt/PSU), Rutgers (PSU/Syracuse), Boston College (Syracuse/WVU), Michigan (WVU/OSU), Michigan State (OSU/UMD)
Pac-12 (9-game conference schedule, 2 protected crossovers per team)
Pacific: Arizona (ASU/Utah), Colorado (ASU/Utah), California (Stanford/USC), UCLA (Stanford/USC), Oregon (OSU/WSU), Washington (OSU/WSU)
Western: Arizona State (UA/CU), Utah (UA/CU), Stanford (Cal/UCLA), USC (Cal/UCLA), Oregon State (UO/UW), Washington State (UO/UW)
SEC (8-game conference schedule, no protected crossovers)
East: Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Tennessee
West: Arkansas, LSU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M
American East (8-game conference schedule, no protected crossovers)
North: Army, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Marshall, Navy
South: Appalachian State, Central Florida, East Carolina, Georgia Southern, Old Dominion, South Florida
SWC (8-game conference schedule, no protected crossovers)
East: Arkansas State, Louisiana Tech, Louisiana-Lafayette, Memphis, Southern Miss, UAB
West: Baylor, Houston, TCU, Texas Tech, Tulsa, Wichita State
WAC (8-game conference schedule, no protected crossovers)
Mountain: Air Force, BYU, Colorado State, New Mexico, UTEP, Wyoming
Pacific: Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii, Nevada, San Diego State, UNLV
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Major differences from our timeline
1910s
EAC forms with Michigan Agricultural (later renamed Michigan State), Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, and Syracuse
1920s
Oklahoma and Oklahoma A&M (later renamed Oklahoma State) do not leave SWC for MVIAA
Breakup of MVIAA postponed
1930s
Florida, Georgia, and Georgia Tech remain with SoCon rather than joining SEC
1940s
Michigan from Western Conference to EAC; EAC also adds Temple and rebrands as Big East Conference
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, and Nebraska from MVIAA to Western Conference/Big 12
1950s
ACC forms with Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, and Virginia Tech
1970s
South Carolina sticks with ACC
Maryland from ACC to Big East
1980s
Several I-A schools drop football to focus on academics and leave their conferences for DIII UAA, including Rice and SMU (SWC), Vanderbilt (SEC), and Wake Forest (ACC)
Arkansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, and Texas A&M from SWC to SEC
SWC adds Memphis, Southern Miss, Tulsa, and Wichita State; no longer considered "power" conference
1990s
Florida State and Miami-FL join ACC
Boston College, Rutgers, and West Virginia join Big East
WAC declines to add Rice, San Jose State, SMU, TCU, and Tulsa
American East Conference (a more eastern CUSA) forms with Army, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Connecticut, East Carolina, Louisville, Marshall, Navy, and South Florida
SWC adds Arkansas State, Louisiana Tech, Louisiana-Lafayette, and UAB
2000s
Colorado and Utah from WAC to Pac-10/12
WAC adds Boise State and Nevada
American East Conference adds Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, and Old Dominion
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Notable annual present day OOC matchups
Air Force/Navy
Air Force/Army
Arkansas/Arkansas State
Army/Rutgers
Auburn/Georgia
BYU/Utah
Cincinnati/Ohio State
Colorado/Colorado State
East Carolina/NC State
Louisville/Kentucky
Marshall/West Virginia
Maryland/Navy
Memphis/Tennessee
Notre Dame/USC
Oklahoma State/Tulsa
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