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(08-28-2020 04:12 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  I couldn't remember where trice fits so I put here in 21 and in the 20 thread

Old Dominion’s Austin Trice has received a waiver and is able to play this season, source told
@Stadium from Jeff Goodman

He sat out last year as a transfer at portland State. Never heard him associated wth ODU till this post by you.

(08-24-2020 09:31 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:27 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  

(08-23-2020 07:30 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-23-2020 08:39 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(08-21-2020 09:37 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Awesome. Just what we needed. Welcome to the Monarchs!

This cat averaged 5 points, 2 boards, and shot 43% from the freethrow line. What exactly am I missing here?

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Finding a big that is high level scorer and an all around talent...will not happen at our level. So...this kid has the basics and looks like he can mature physically to become a decent player. That is what I look at not his production at a JUCO level that is all about guards and getting up and down the court. Kid is mobile and can play above the rim. I will take it.

If UR (Golden) and WKU (Basset) can recruit great big men, we certainly should be able to as well. Even W&M had a formidable front line last year. I give JJ an F when it comes to recruiting (or keeping) decent big men. The issue is not “our level” in my view.

Bassey is a different animal and we aren't recruiting at WKYs level while $tansbury is there.

Grant Golden was a not a great recruit. He had offers from Richmond, American, Furman, Holy Cross, JMU. He turned into a great big man. FWIW, if we signed him back in 2016, people would be saying bad things about our recruiting.

FWIW, here are our big men:

Arledge
Stith
Porter
Ekizpe
Dickens

Really not a bad group despite the highest ranking guy (Dickens) not working out.

ALL TRANSFERS, EXCEPT ONE GOOD RECRUITING JJ

(08-28-2020 06:02 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:31 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:27 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  

(08-23-2020 07:30 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-23-2020 08:39 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  This cat averaged 5 points, 2 boards, and shot 43% from the freethrow line. What exactly am I missing here?

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Finding a big that is high level scorer and an all around talent...will not happen at our level. So...this kid has the basics and looks like he can mature physically to become a decent player. That is what I look at not his production at a JUCO level that is all about guards and getting up and down the court. Kid is mobile and can play above the rim. I will take it.

If UR (Golden) and WKU (Basset) can recruit great big men, we certainly should be able to as well. Even W&M had a formidable front line last year. I give JJ an F when it comes to recruiting (or keeping) decent big men. The issue is not “our level” in my view.

Bassey is a different animal and we aren't recruiting at WKYs level while $tansbury is there.

Grant Golden was a not a great recruit. He had offers from Richmond, American, Furman, Holy Cross, JMU. He turned into a great big man. FWIW, if we signed him back in 2016, people would be saying bad things about our recruiting.

FWIW, here are our big men:

Arledge
Stith
Porter
Ekizpe
Dickens

Really not a bad group despite the highest ranking guy (Dickens) not working out.

ALL TRANSFERS, EXCEPT ONE GOOD RECRUITING JJ

Hate to pile on, but two transferred out too.

(08-28-2020 05:56 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  

(08-28-2020 04:12 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  I couldn't remember where trice fits so I put here in 21 and in the 20 thread

Old Dominion’s Austin Trice has received a waiver and is able to play this season, source told
@Stadium from Jeff Goodman

He sat out last year as a transfer at portland State. Never heard him associated wth ODU till this post by you.

Same. I did some googlin' and couldn't find him associated with ODU?

(08-28-2020 08:32 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(08-28-2020 05:56 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  

(08-28-2020 04:12 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  I couldn't remember where trice fits so I put here in 21 and in the 20 thread

Old Dominion’s Austin Trice has received a waiver and is able to play this season, source told
@Stadium from Jeff Goodman

He sat out last year as a transfer at portland State. Never heard him associated wth ODU till this post by you.

Same. I did some googlin' and couldn't find him associated with ODU?

Look below to the 2020 recruiting thread. More info.

(08-28-2020 06:02 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:31 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:27 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  

(08-23-2020 07:30 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-23-2020 08:39 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  This cat averaged 5 points, 2 boards, and shot 43% from the freethrow line. What exactly am I missing here?

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Finding a big that is high level scorer and an all around talent...will not happen at our level. So...this kid has the basics and looks like he can mature physically to become a decent player. That is what I look at not his production at a JUCO level that is all about guards and getting up and down the court. Kid is mobile and can play above the rim. I will take it.

If UR (Golden) and WKU (Basset) can recruit great big men, we certainly should be able to as well. Even W&M had a formidable front line last year. I give JJ an F when it comes to recruiting (or keeping) decent big men. The issue is not “our level” in my view.

Bassey is a different animal and we aren't recruiting at WKYs level while $tansbury is there.

Grant Golden was a not a great recruit. He had offers from Richmond, American, Furman, Holy Cross, JMU. He turned into a great big man. FWIW, if we signed him back in 2016, people would be saying bad things about our recruiting.

FWIW, here are our big men:

Arledge
Stith
Porter
Ekizpe
Dickens

Really not a bad group despite the highest ranking guy (Dickens) not working out.

ALL TRANSFERS, EXCEPT ONE GOOD RECRUITING JJ

Not disagreeing with your point on who was considered a transfer or not, but everyone has to face the fact of the current recruiting landscape. A kid going thru the "traditional" 4-years at a school is now in the minority. Even once someone spends a year or 2 at a school, that respective coaching staff has to continue to recruit him because there are always "people" in their ear. Even though schools/coaches technically are not permitted to tamper with someone else's players, it happens almost EVERYWAY.

An example for ODU, would be 1 of the newest additions, Mekhi Long. ODU coaches recruited him throughout HS, and he eventually chose Rhode Island. After a year, he realizes that his choice of URI wasn't a good fit for him. His continued relationship with ODU coaching staff permitted him an avenue to tranfer.

From the list of the kids you provided, I would like to touch on Porter & Dickens. One spent a year for a coach he liked, then the coach gets fired and he actively was searching for a school. The other was a highly "rated" recruit, who found after a year that he was NEVER going to get any playing time, so he also was actively searching for a school. Is it really disappointing that the ODU coaching staff chose to go after a 6'11" & 7+' who were wanting to find a school? I would absolutely hope that the ODU staff would continue to seek these opportunities because these examples will continue to increase.

(08-28-2020 06:02 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:31 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:27 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  

(08-23-2020 07:30 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-23-2020 08:39 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  This cat averaged 5 points, 2 boards, and shot 43% from the freethrow line. What exactly am I missing here?

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

Finding a big that is high level scorer and an all around talent...will not happen at our level. So...this kid has the basics and looks like he can mature physically to become a decent player. That is what I look at not his production at a JUCO level that is all about guards and getting up and down the court. Kid is mobile and can play above the rim. I will take it.

If UR (Golden) and WKU (Basset) can recruit great big men, we certainly should be able to as well. Even W&M had a formidable front line last year. I give JJ an F when it comes to recruiting (or keeping) decent big men. The issue is not “our level” in my view.

Bassey is a different animal and we aren't recruiting at WKYs level while $tansbury is there.

Grant Golden was a not a great recruit. He had offers from Richmond, American, Furman, Holy Cross, JMU. He turned into a great big man. FWIW, if we signed him back in 2016, people would be saying bad things about our recruiting.

FWIW, here are our big men:

Arledge
Stith
Porter
Ekizpe
Dickens

Really not a bad group despite the highest ranking guy (Dickens) not working out.

ALL TRANSFERS, EXCEPT ONE GOOD RECRUITING JJ

Who cares if they are transfers or not? It means zero. Are transfers not recruited?

(08-29-2020 04:57 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-28-2020 06:02 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:31 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:27 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  

(08-23-2020 07:30 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  Finding a big that is high level scorer and an all around talent...will not happen at our level. So...this kid has the basics and looks like he can mature physically to become a decent player. That is what I look at not his production at a JUCO level that is all about guards and getting up and down the court. Kid is mobile and can play above the rim. I will take it.

If UR (Golden) and WKU (Basset) can recruit great big men, we certainly should be able to as well. Even W&M had a formidable front line last year. I give JJ an F when it comes to recruiting (or keeping) decent big men. The issue is not “our level” in my view.

Bassey is a different animal and we aren't recruiting at WKYs level while $tansbury is there.

Grant Golden was a not a great recruit. He had offers from Richmond, American, Furman, Holy Cross, JMU. He turned into a great big man. FWIW, if we signed him back in 2016, people would be saying bad things about our recruiting.

FWIW, here are our big men:

Arledge
Stith
Porter
Ekizpe
Dickens

Really not a bad group despite the highest ranking guy (Dickens) not working out.

ALL TRANSFERS, EXCEPT ONE GOOD RECRUITING JJ

Who cares if they are transfers or not? It means zero. Are transfers not recruited?

Exactly!

It could be argued the best big man we had in the history of our school was a transfer, Wilson Washington.

Adjusting this on the new kid and speculation on Karaiskos

(08-13-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  This is an awesome class. Remarkable job getting these 3 kids to join.

Seniors:
Curry
Green
Stother
Trice

Juniors:
Wade
Oliver
Reece
Pilavios
Ezikpe

Soph:
Hunter
Long

Fresh:
O'Connell
Sahnu

2021:
Stines
Johnson
Essien

That will leave us with one more scholarship for 2021.

(08-30-2020 06:27 AM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  Adjusting this on the new kid and speculation on Karaiskos

(08-13-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  This is an awesome class. Remarkable job getting these 3 kids to join.

Seniors:
Curry
Green
Stother
Trice

Juniors:
Wade
Oliver
Reece
Pilavios
Ezikpe

Soph:
Hunter
Long

Fresh:
O'Connell
Sahnu

2021:
Stines
Johnson
Essien

That will leave us with one more scholarship for 2021.

No, we’re all done. Stephan Morris just committed last week. JUCO big man coming in 21. He’s a rising sophomore at Kilgore.

Well we got our size. I’m especially excited to see Trice play. Not much out there on Morris. JJ pulled a rabbit out of his hat at the last minute. Nice work. I’m optimistic about this season. And if we find a point guard for 2021, that season looks good too.

(08-30-2020 03:39 PM)monarx Wrote:  Well we got our size. I’m especially excited to see Trice play. Not much out there on Morris. JJ pulled a rabbit out of his hat at the last minute. Nice work. I’m optimistic about this season. And if we find a point guard for 2021, that season looks good too.

This looks to be the rotation. I have not heard if Long got a waiver to play this season. For now, this assumes he cannot play (if he can, then I think we could go places). It is a pretty strong rotation, and probably enough to compete for the CUSA championship.

1. Curry, Strother
2. Oliver, Hunter, O'Connell (limited rookie minutes)
3. Green, Wade (returning from ACL, so probably limited)
4. Ezikpe, Reece
5. Trice, Shanu

Add: Long, Morris for next year

(08-29-2020 06:07 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  

(08-29-2020 04:57 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-28-2020 06:02 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:31 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:27 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  If UR (Golden) and WKU (Basset) can recruit great big men, we certainly should be able to as well. Even W&M had a formidable front line last year. I give JJ an F when it comes to recruiting (or keeping) decent big men. The issue is not “our level” in my view.

Bassey is a different animal and we aren't recruiting at WKYs level while $tansbury is there.

Grant Golden was a not a great recruit. He had offers from Richmond, American, Furman, Holy Cross, JMU. He turned into a great big man. FWIW, if we signed him back in 2016, people would be saying bad things about our recruiting.

FWIW, here are our big men:

Arledge
Stith
Porter
Ekizpe
Dickens

Really not a bad group despite the highest ranking guy (Dickens) not working out.

ALL TRANSFERS, EXCEPT ONE GOOD RECRUITING JJ

Who cares if they are transfers or not? It means zero. Are transfers not recruited?

Exactly!

JJ recruits mostly transfers, who have already been recruited. JJ has a hard time convincing incoming great talented freshmen, to come to ODU

(08-30-2020 08:26 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(08-29-2020 06:07 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  

(08-29-2020 04:57 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-28-2020 06:02 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:31 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Bassey is a different animal and we aren't recruiting at WKYs level while $tansbury is there.

Grant Golden was a not a great recruit. He had offers from Richmond, American, Furman, Holy Cross, JMU. He turned into a great big man. FWIW, if we signed him back in 2016, people would be saying bad things about our recruiting.

FWIW, here are our big men:

Arledge
Stith
Porter
Ekizpe
Dickens

Really not a bad group despite the highest ranking guy (Dickens) not working out.

ALL TRANSFERS, EXCEPT ONE GOOD RECRUITING JJ

Who cares if they are transfers or not? It means zero. Are transfers not recruited?

Exactly!

JJ recruits mostly transfers, who have already been recruited. JJ has a hard time convincing incoming great talented freshmen, to come to ODU

Why would a great talented freshman want to come to ODU? Wouldn't they be getting offers from Power 5 schools?!

(08-30-2020 09:38 PM)NC ODUFan Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 08:26 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(08-29-2020 06:07 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  

(08-29-2020 04:57 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-28-2020 06:02 PM)bluelight Wrote:  ALL TRANSFERS, EXCEPT ONE GOOD RECRUITING JJ

Who cares if they are transfers or not? It means zero. Are transfers not recruited?

Exactly!

JJ recruits mostly transfers, who have already been recruited. JJ has a hard time convincing incoming great talented freshmen, to come to ODU

Why would a great talented freshman want to come to ODU? Wouldn't they be getting offers from Power 5 schools?!

If you want to be a top 50 team you need to steal one every now and then. WKU manages to. VCU manages to. It was really not long ago we were beating out VT for recruits pretty regularly. (Before getting their ACC patch) There are a lot of good reasons. I’m not saying we can get top 50 guys n the regular, but a top 150-200 guy every few seasons seems about right.

Everyone needs/wants a Program Changer. I was surprised that Blaine said he wouldn't take a one-n-done, but he was very good at getting players to buyin on redshirting. Our best teams were with upper-classmen leading the team.

(08-30-2020 08:26 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(08-29-2020 06:07 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  

(08-29-2020 04:57 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-28-2020 06:02 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 09:31 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Bassey is a different animal and we aren't recruiting at WKYs level while $tansbury is there.

Grant Golden was a not a great recruit. He had offers from Richmond, American, Furman, Holy Cross, JMU. He turned into a great big man. FWIW, if we signed him back in 2016, people would be saying bad things about our recruiting.

FWIW, here are our big men:

Arledge
Stith
Porter
Ekizpe
Dickens

Really not a bad group despite the highest ranking guy (Dickens) not working out.

ALL TRANSFERS, EXCEPT ONE GOOD RECRUITING JJ

Who cares if they are transfers or not? It means zero. Are transfers not recruited?

Exactly!

JJ recruits mostly transfers, who have already been recruited. JJ has a hard time convincing incoming great talented freshmen, to come to ODU

Ah, I understand now. High school seniors don't want to play for Jones but he has a special way of recruiting guys that are a year past their high school senior years.

(08-31-2020 06:57 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 09:38 PM)NC ODUFan Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 08:26 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(08-29-2020 06:07 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  

(08-29-2020 04:57 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Who cares if they are transfers or not? It means zero. Are transfers not recruited?

Exactly!

JJ recruits mostly transfers, who have already been recruited. JJ has a hard time convincing incoming great talented freshmen, to come to ODU

Why would a great talented freshman want to come to ODU? Wouldn't they be getting offers from Power 5 schools?!

If you want to be a top 50 team you need to steal one every now and then. WKU manages to. VCU manages to. It was really not long ago we were beating out VT for recruits pretty regularly. (Before getting their ACC patch) There are a lot of good reasons. I’m not saying we can get top 50 guys n the regular, but a top 150-200 guy every few seasons seems about right.

You cannot compare us to Western Kentucky with a cheating head coach (that he still doesn't do anything with all the talent)

(08-30-2020 05:16 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 03:39 PM)monarx Wrote:  Well we got our size. I’m especially excited to see Trice play. Not much out there on Morris. JJ pulled a rabbit out of his hat at the last minute. Nice work. I’m optimistic about this season. And if we find a point guard for 2021, that season looks good too.

This looks to be the rotation. I have not heard if Long got a waiver to play this season. For now, this assumes he cannot play (if he can, then I think we could go places). It is a pretty strong rotation, and probably enough to compete for the CUSA championship.

1. Curry, Strother
2. Oliver, Hunter, O'Connell (limited rookie minutes)
3. Green, Wade (returning from ACL, so probably limited)
4. Ezikpe, Reece
5. Trice, Shanu

Add: Long, Morris for next year

I think Strother can play with Curry some as well. I think he's going to surprise folks. I also see a lot of Curry/Oliver/Green/Wade/Ezikpe.

Im not sure how much they plan to pair Ezikpe with Trice; both are similar styles and it would clog it up a bit.