(07-09-2019 02:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Trump has his own plane always waiting for him. Surprised he would ever ride on someone else. Back then his would have either been getting service or he had loaned it to the Clinton's.

Trump never flew with Epstein. He flew from Miami to NY on his plane with his son once. If Trump’s plane flew to Epsteins place in the Bahamas there would be flight records of it.
What we are going to get from the left here is a lot of innuendo to muddy the water. We will see if there is actually any evidence. The FBI raided Epsteins apartment in NY and got a lot of pictures and recordings. It’s gonna be real interesting to see how this plays out.

(07-09-2019 02:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Trump has his own plane always waiting for him. Surprised he would ever ride on someone else. Back then his would have either been getting service or he had loaned it to the Clinton's.

They were neighbors in Palm Beach. Trump 86'd Epstein from Mara Lago. He knew he was a bad dude.

I'm also hearing now that Barr's dad hired Epstein to be a high school math teacher when he was 20 and a college dropout. It was a pretty prestigious boarding school in NYC (ETA - Dalton was the school actually - Barr was the headmaster there) so it's very surprising he would have been hired there without a degree.

ETA2 - many of my brothers' friends were taught by Epstein. My brother went to a different school, which was much later bought by Epstein after he had become rich as an investor. Epstein's 'modeling agency' and many of the sexual encounters he had with underage victims in NYC were in that building. My brother is pretty distraught today hearing about both the legacies of his former high school, and that of his friends.

(07-09-2019 10:39 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Try to keep up Mach,
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...stein-case

Attorney General William Barr revealed Monday he recused himself from the Justice Department’s prosecution of alleged child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, who was arrested over the weekend and formally charged that morning.

“I’m recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time,” Barr told reporters in Southern Carolina.

Apparently he changed his mind on the Epstein recusal?

Quote:Attorney General William Barr will not recuse himself from involvement in the new federal criminal prosecution of accused child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, an official said Tuesday.

But Barr will recuse himself from an internal Justice Department probe of current Labor Secretary’s Alex Acosta involvement in approving a controversial no-prosecution deal with the wealthy financier a decade ago, an official said.

Barr’s announced decision to have oversight over the Epstein prosecution came after reports that he had recused himself from the case, which is being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York

CNBC

(07-09-2019 02:56 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 10:39 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Try to keep up Mach,
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...stein-case

Attorney General William Barr revealed Monday he recused himself from the Justice Department’s prosecution of alleged child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, who was arrested over the weekend and formally charged that morning.

“I’m recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time,” Barr told reporters in Southern Carolina.

Apparently he changed his mind on the Epstein recusal?

Quote:Attorney General William Barr will not recuse himself from involvement in the new federal criminal prosecution of accused child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, an official said Tuesday.

But Barr will recuse himself from an internal Justice Department probe of current Labor Secretary’s Alex Acosta involvement in approving a controversial no-prosecution deal with the wealthy financier a decade ago, an official said.

Barr’s announced decision to have oversight over the Epstein prosecution came after reports that he had recused himself from the case, which is being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York

CNBC

Good I don't see a conflict of interest. Barr doesn't work for Kirkland or whoever it was anymore. And Epstein probably has new lawyers anyway. Berman is in charge of the investigation, and it started under Sessions.

(07-09-2019 02:55 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I'm also hearing now that Barr's dad hired Epstein to be a high school math teacher when he was 20 and a college dropout. It was a pretty prestigious boarding school in NYC (ETA - Dalton was the school actually - Barr was the headmaster there) so it's very surprising he would have been hired there without a degree.

ETA2 - many of my brothers' friends were taught by Epstein. My brother went to a different school, which was much later bought by Epstein after he had become rich as an investor. Epstein's 'modeling agency' and many of the sexual encounters he had with underage victims in NYC were in that building. My brother is pretty distraught today hearing about both the legacies of his former high school, and that of his friends.

"Princeton can use a guy like Joel!" It's a risky business to be sure.

(07-09-2019 11:21 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 10:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Changing of the guard was really cool. In line to enter Fords theatre at noon. The DC metro is great. You would never need a car. If you visit Washington DC you can’t help but be impressed. It’s too bad we have a traitor in the White House.

News must travel slow for you. The America hating traitor moved out in January 2017. We have a true patriot living there now. Not some dumb big eared Kenyan Muslim

Bone spurs is no patriot, father, or statesmen.

Google maps of Epstein's mansion in NM: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.26717,-1...3?hl=en-US

Zoom out and see how well secluded it is.

Quote:At least three embarrassed New Mexico politicians have returned donations from Epstein that showed up in their campaign accounts over the years, and news reports say investigations of Epstein reached into New Mexico.

2015 court filing

In a 2015 court filing reported on by the Journal, plaintiffs’ lawyers maintained that a woman identified as Jane Doe No. 3, said to have been coerced into Epstein’s camp when she was 15 years old, was frequently sexually abused by Epstein “not only in West Palm Beach (Florida), but also in New York, New Mexico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, in international airspace on … Epstein’s private planes, and elsewhere.”

The same filing also alleged that Jane Doe No. 3 was forced by Epstein to have sex with famous attorney and Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz numerous times, including in New Mexico.

The filing didn’t say specifically where in New Mexico the alleged sexual assaults took place, but Dershowitz went on NBC’s “Today” show to denounce the allegations and said that Jane Doe No. 3 accused him of having sex with her at Epstein’s “ranch in New Mexico.”

The allegations are “totally false and made up,” he said. Dershowitz said he’d only been at the ranch once for about an hour with friends and his wife and daughter. Epstein wasn’t present “and there were no girls around,” Dershowitz said. Epstein’s New Mexico ranch is located near Stanley and was purchased from the family of former Gov. Bruce King, who died 2009.

In 2016, Dershowitz and lawyers for the woman who made the accusations issued a joint statement on withdrawal of the allegations. The statement said Dershowitz had produced travel and other records showing he couldn’t have been present when the alleged misconduct occurred.

According to the Miami Herald, FBI and court records show that leading up to his 2008 plea deal over alleged crimes at his Florida mansion, Epstein was “also suspected of trafficking minor girls, often from overseas, for sex parties at his other homes in Manhattan, New Mexico and the Caribbean.”

The records show the FBI “was interviewing witnesses and victims “from across the United States” and the investigations “stretched from Florida to New York and New Mexico,” the Herald reported.

The Daily Beast reported recently that in a 2019 affidavit, one of Epstein’s accusers claims Epstein and an associate molested her 15-year-old sister at Epstein’s New Mexico ranch.

Political donations

Epstein made news in New Mexico when he twice attempted to contribute to the political campaigns of Gary King, Bruce King’s son, a former attorney general and candidate for governor. King returned the money.

King received $15,000 from Epstein in 2006 when King first ran for attorney general and $35,000 from companies connected to Epstein for his unsuccessful gubernatorial campaign in 2014.

Also in 2006, Epstein gave $50,000 to the re-election campaign of then-Gov. Bill Richardson.

Richardson said then he’d give the money he received from an Epstein-affiliated company, Zorro Trust, to local charities. Epstein also gave $10,000 to Jim Baca’s 2006 campaign for state land commissioner. Baca also gave the Epstein money to charities.

On a couple of pages that appear to be dedicated to New Mexico are listings for Richardson, Bruce King, King’s niece and former state Rep. Rhonda King and the Santa Fe Institute, the world-renowned theoretical research institute. There are also about 15 listings under the heading “massage” with first names such as Sabrina, Rachel and Linda and phone numbers redacted after their 505 area codes.

Epstein’s Zorro Ranch has been reported to be 7,500 acres or 10,000 acres. Santa Fe County Assessor Gus Martinez said Monday that the ranch’s most recent assessment indicates a market value of $12.2 million, but that because part of the ranch gets a break for agricultural uses such as running cattle, the actual value could be higher.

Link

(07-09-2019 03:25 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 11:21 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 10:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Changing of the guard was really cool. In line to enter Fords theatre at noon. The DC metro is great. You would never need a car. If you visit Washington DC you can’t help but be impressed. It’s too bad we have a traitor in the White House.

News must travel slow for you. The America hating traitor moved out in January 2017. We have a true patriot living there now. Not some dumb big eared Kenyan Muslim

Bone spurs is no patriot, father, or statesmen.

Neither are you.


See how that works?

(07-09-2019 03:25 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 11:21 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 10:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Changing of the guard was really cool. In line to enter Fords theatre at noon. The DC metro is great. You would never need a car. If you visit Washington DC you can’t help but be impressed. It’s too bad we have a traitor in the White House.

News must travel slow for you. The America hating traitor moved out in January 2017. We have a true patriot living there now. Not some dumb big eared Kenyan Muslim

Bone spurs is no patriot, father, or statesmen.

(07-09-2019 03:25 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 11:21 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 10:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Changing of the guard was really cool. In line to enter Fords theatre at noon. The DC metro is great. You would never need a car. If you visit Washington DC you can’t help but be impressed. It’s too bad we have a traitor in the White House.

News must travel slow for you. The America hating traitor moved out in January 2017. We have a true patriot living there now. Not some dumb big eared Kenyan Muslim

Bone spurs is no patriot, father, or statesmen.

Yet, still your President

Trump was on Epstien's plane more than once for business talks. I think it has to do with modeling business, and Trump's wife was a model. There are records with Trump's name on it for the plane. A woman accused Clinton, Trump and the Jewish lawyer of rape when she was 13, and sue all 3 of them. He see that Trump is not lifting a finger to get the Clintons nailed. It was all lip service to get you all riled up to get the Clintons. Alan Dorsowitch (sp) is out there on all the news channels defending Trump and Bill Clinton. He said Trump should not be impeached and Bill Clinton was wrongly impeached. The question why all three of them not really condemning Epstien? If all three start throwing Epstien under the bus? Epstien will turn the tables on Trump, Clinton and Dorsowitch on raping underage girls. Trump's words about the pedo in 2002 is coming back to haunt Trump when he said the Pedo is a good friend of 15 years.

(07-09-2019 11:12 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 10:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Changing of the guard was really cool. In line to enter Fords theatre at noon. The DC metro is great. You would never need a car. If you visit Washington DC you can’t help but be impressed. It’s too bad we have a traitor in the White House.

Did you pack your favorite t shirt?

You would look right at home in that, Mach,


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(07-09-2019 08:14 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 11:12 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 10:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Changing of the guard was really cool. In line to enter Fords theatre at noon. The DC metro is great. You would never need a car. If you visit Washington DC you can’t help but be impressed. It’s too bad we have a traitor in the White House.

Did you pack your favorite t shirt?

You would look right at home in that, Mach,


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With the words "kick me I'm stupid" in the back.

(07-09-2019 07:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Trump was on Epstien's plane more than once for business talks. I think it has to do with modeling business, and Trump's wife was a model. There are records with Trump's name on it for the plane. A woman accused Clinton, Trump and the Jewish lawyer of rape when she was 13, and sue all 3 of them. He see that Trump is not lifting a finger to get the Clintons nailed. It was all lip service to get you all riled up to get the Clintons. Alan Dorsowitch (sp) is out there on all the news channels defending Trump and Bill Clinton. He said Trump should not be impeached and Bill Clinton was wrongly impeached. The question why all three of them not really condemning Epstien? If all three start throwing Epstien under the bus? Epstien will turn the tables on Trump, Clinton and Dorsowitch on raping underage girls. Trump's words about the pedo in 2002 is coming back to haunt Trump when he said the Pedo is a good friend of 15 years.

Your post are always good for a little entertainment. You’re a better writer than the knuckle heads they have on SNL....

What does riding on a plane have to do with these two being close friends and throwing parties together? And the fact that Epstein liked them young didn't seem to bother Trump. He was proud of his 15 year friendship with a pedophile. Terrific guy.

The Republican party. The party of rape and incest. SAD.

(07-09-2019 10:27 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  What does riding on a plane have to do with these two being close friends and throwing parties together? And the fact that Epstein liked them young didn't seem to bother Trump. He was proud of his 15 year friendship with a pedophile. Terrific guy.

The Republican party. The party of rape and incest. SAD.

We shall see where this leads genius. I don’t think it’s going to turn out like you think. What’s going to be your next big lie moment?

(07-09-2019 10:33 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 10:27 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  What does riding on a plane have to do with these two being close friends and throwing parties together? And the fact that Epstein liked them young didn't seem to bother Trump. He was proud of his 15 year friendship with a pedophile. Terrific guy.

The Republican party. The party of rape and incest. SAD.

We shall see where this leads genius. I don’t think it’s going to turn out like you think. What’s going to be your next big lie moment?

I wonder how many times these two and Robert Kraft went to the sex trafficking message parlor?

(07-09-2019 11:03 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 10:33 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 10:27 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  What does riding on a plane have to do with these two being close friends and throwing parties together? And the fact that Epstein liked them young didn't seem to bother Trump. He was proud of his 15 year friendship with a pedophile. Terrific guy.

The Republican party. The party of rape and incest. SAD.

We shall see where this leads genius. I don’t think it’s going to turn out like you think. What’s going to be your next big lie moment?

I wonder how many times these two and Robert Kraft went to the sex trafficking message parlor?

While you’re at it try and wonder if the earth is flat because it’s another good way to exercise your two brain cells.