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RE: QB transfer from Cal
(07-01-2019 09:55 AM)klake87 Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 10:53 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
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(06-28-2019 09:59 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 06:50 PM)NIUHuskie4life Wrote:  This may be the best QB commit we've ever landed. With that said I'm still holding my breath until December.

Actually, the subject of this thread was rated .8696/88 coming out of high school (yeah, yeah, I know you probably mean landed coming straight out of high school).

Can anyone imagine landing either of those two just six months ago?...

https://twitter.com/Harbison_III/status/...9629197312

Six months ago? ......No freakin way.

These guys should recruit for Monty too.

Maybe getting away from read/option and going to more pocket passing is a big part?

Bowers is a very mobile QB. I don't expect him to run the ball 20 times but there will still be designed runs/read options in play book.

Yeah, I think Bowers might run the ball ok onece or twice in the season! lol
e.g.,

https://youtu.be/U3qv2dVWwd8

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RE: QB transfer from Cal
(07-01-2019 03:12 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 09:55 AM)klake87 Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 10:53 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 10:18 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 09:59 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  Actually, the subject of this thread was rated .8696/88 coming out of high school (yeah, yeah, I know you probably mean landed coming straight out of high school).

Can anyone imagine landing either of those two just six months ago?...

https://twitter.com/Harbison_III/status/...9629197312

Six months ago? ......No freakin way.

These guys should recruit for Monty too.

Maybe getting away from read/option and going to more pocket passing is a big part?

Bowers is a very mobile QB. I don't expect him to run the ball 20 times but there will still be designed runs/read options in play book.

Yeah, I think Bowers might run the ball ok onece or twice in the season! lol
e.g.,

https://youtu.be/U3qv2dVWwd8


We sure don't want Bowers doing that, unless maybe to win a big game! In the season he started for California, he had 60 attempts with -142 yards (of course including sack yards), and 3 TDs, all of which are in his 2017 highlights. I can see a designated QB run to get a TD or to take off if the D is playing man-to-man and gives him a wide open field, but would be surprised to see him running read option plays. He looks to be a pocket passer who can run. However, assuming he is the starter, I would think we would want to protect him from taking a lot of hits, as Childers (presumably the number 1 back-up) has a much different style.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pla...ers-1.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dw0Tr0qUuE&t=4s
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(06-28-2019 06:50 PM)NIUHuskie4life Wrote:  This may be the best QB commit we've ever landed. With that said I'm still holding my breath until December.
Hell yes.

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If NIU's QBs were 2 or 3 years younger over the past 5 years, they would have been taken in custody by DCFS. This has been an abusive offense for the QB, and quite frankly one that has endangered the health of the QB. I will be perfectly content to see Bowers sit in pocket all day in this new offense.
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(07-01-2019 11:03 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  If NIU's QBs were 2 or 3 years younger over the past 5 years, they would have been taken in custody by DCFS. This has been an abusive offense for the QB, and quite frankly one that has endangered the health of the QB. I will be perfectly content to see Bowers sit in pocket all day in this new offense.

Just as long as the O line does its job. That's always the key to any offense. Need to give the QB time and open up some room for the RB. It would certainly help if Bowers can find open receivers so he doesn't have to sit for long in the pocket. We shall find out in a couple months.
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(06-28-2019 04:41 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(06-14-2019 12:34 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
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(06-13-2019 11:18 PM)NIUSAE Wrote:  Thompson also.

Bowers, Childers and Thompson will all be leaving at the same time. So if Valenti isn’t the guy or leaves or whatever, it will be this walk-on Bryce or a redshirt fresh that comes in the ‘20 class. A lot can happen in 2 years and another Bowers could fall in their lap, but if not, they may be feeling the repercussions of the failed qb recruits of the last 2 years.

But for now...Bowers to the MACC!

I suspect the next starting QB after Bowers will be a Coach E guy (selected and groomed) so he's likely not yet been recruited. Hopefully, Bowers and the Offense start out hot and open the eyes of some talented, non-committed, QB recruits. It'd be nice to land a 4-star pocket-passer in the 2020 class.

Looks like he was just recruited.

Okay, 3.5-star (.8538 rating) and not categorized a "pocket passer" but only because he's so athletically gifted, he can throw the rock.

QB Dustin Fletcher, 6'4", Flint, MI
https://football.thedzone.com/players/dustin-fletcher

https://twitter.com/TheD_Zone/status/114...2034552834

Not that ratings matter, but, Fletcher's rating has been adjusted/increased to .8546 composite.
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I was curious to learn more about the 247 ratings, which are explained here:
https://247sports.com/college/appalachia...ion-81574/

The ratings are:
110 - 101 = Franchise Player.
100 - 98 = Five-star prospect.
97 - 90 = Four-star prospect.
89 - 80 = Three-star prospect.
79 - below = Two-star prospect.

With Fletcher’s rating being increased to .8546, he would be a solid 3.5-star commit, as is Jevyon Ducker the Nebraska RB commit at .8556. By the way, Bowers had a .8696 rating and Childers was unrated coming out of HS, for what it is worth.

Until the commits sign, the only way I see to judge the 2020 commits against prior years is the average for all the commits, which for 2020 stands at .8018 (just within the 3-star rating on average).

https://247sports.com/college/northern-i...l/Commits/

The average rating for 2019 was .8079 and for 2018 it was .8059, so as it stands now both a bit higher than 2020. Before 2018 (back to 2002), the average rating is in the 2-star range.

What does this mean? Of course, we all know that the ratings do not always translate into reality, as we have had higher rated players bust, and plenty of low and non-ranked players become stars. Of course, I still hope we get some hidden gems that have been over looked or that switch positions, but the trend of getting higher rated recruits on average can only be a positive and I hope continues.
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The only thing we can sure of, these rating sites do not know a damn thing they are talking about. They are never, ever right.
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(05-17-2019 03:52 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  NIU Top 3 Passing Seasons
1) Chandler Harnish: 3,216yds (2011)
2) Jordan Lynch: 3,138 (2012)
3) George Bork: 3,077 (1963)

Will Bowers crack this list in his first year, second year, or both?

If Bowers does crack the 3K mark in both seasons he can finish in the Top 5 All-Time NIU Career passing yards (or just outside of it).

On pace for 3,270yds for the regular season (with theoretically the three toughest games already played). Plus, you would potentially add the MACC and Bowl game.
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(10-13-2019 06:27 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 03:52 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  NIU Top 3 Passing Seasons
1) Chandler Harnish: 3,216yds (2011)
2) Jordan Lynch: 3,138 (2012)
3) George Bork: 3,077 (1963)

Will Bowers crack this list in his first year, second year, or both?

If Bowers does crack the 3K mark in both seasons he can finish in the Top 5 All-Time NIU Career passing yards (or just outside of it).

On pace for 3,270yds for the regular season (with theoretically the three toughest games already played). Plus, you would potentially add the MACC and Bowl game.

Oh yeah, and these numbers include the "learning curve" of a new team, new coaches, new Offensive system, and having to knock 2-year old rust off.

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Bowers is ranked #16 in the nation in total passing yards
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(10-13-2019 06:32 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 06:27 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 03:52 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  NIU Top 3 Passing Seasons
1) Chandler Harnish: 3,216yds (2011)
2) Jordan Lynch: 3,138 (2012)
3) George Bork: 3,077 (1963)

Will Bowers crack this list in his first year, second year, or both?

If Bowers does crack the 3K mark in both seasons he can finish in the Top 5 All-Time NIU Career passing yards (or just outside of it).

On pace for 3,270yds for the regular season (with theoretically the three toughest games already played). Plus, you would potentially add the MACC and Bowl game.

Oh yeah, and these numbers include the "learning curve" of a new team, new coaches, new Offensive system, and having to knock 2-year old rust off.

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Not only is Bowers on pace to break the single-season passing yards record this year, but if Bowers does get those two additional games (MACC and Bowl game) then he's also on pace to go over 3,559 yards, which is all he needs to place 10th on the CAREER passing yards list.

A similar second year and he will almost undoubtedly finish second on the career list behind only 4-year starter Chandler Harnish.
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(10-14-2019 08:49 AM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 06:32 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 06:27 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 03:52 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  NIU Top 3 Passing Seasons
1) Chandler Harnish: 3,216yds (2011)
2) Jordan Lynch: 3,138 (2012)
3) George Bork: 3,077 (1963)

Will Bowers crack this list in his first year, second year, or both?

If Bowers does crack the 3K mark in both seasons he can finish in the Top 5 All-Time NIU Career passing yards (or just outside of it).

On pace for 3,270yds for the regular season (with theoretically the three toughest games already played). Plus, you would potentially add the MACC and Bowl game.

Oh yeah, and these numbers include the "learning curve" of a new team, new coaches, new Offensive system, and having to knock 2-year old rust off.

07-coffee3

Not only is Bowers on pace to break the single-season passing yards record this year, but if Bowers does get those two additional games (MACC and Bowl game) then he's also on pace to go over 3,559 yards, which is all he needs to place 10th on the CAREER passing yards list.

A similar second year and he will almost undoubtedly finish second on the career list behind only 4-year starter Chandler Harnish.
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Ross Bowers is a talented QB..has great arm strength, pocket presence, and cerebral. If you winning percentage is less then passing yards, it dont mean a thing.


I like Bowers, we do not know yet if has the "it " factor. If he and the team continue to improve, he will be a special Huskie. Talent is there..we cannot anoint him just yet ..Go Bowers / Go Huskies!
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NIU STARTED 1-3 LAST SEASON.

TAKE CAREY'S DICK OUT OF YOUR MOUTH AND SHOVE YOUR "WINNING PERCENTAGE" CRACK, UP YOUR CRACK.

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(10-14-2019 08:49 AM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 06:32 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 06:27 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 03:52 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  NIU Top 3 Passing Seasons
1) Chandler Harnish: 3,216yds (2011)
2) Jordan Lynch: 3,138 (2012)
3) George Bork: 3,077 (1963)

Will Bowers crack this list in his first year, second year, or both?

If Bowers does crack the 3K mark in both seasons he can finish in the Top 5 All-Time NIU Career passing yards (or just outside of it).

On pace for 3,270yds for the regular season (with theoretically the three toughest games already played). Plus, you would potentially add the MACC and Bowl game.

Oh yeah, and these numbers include the "learning curve" of a new team, new coaches, new Offensive system, and having to knock 2-year old rust off.

07-coffee3

Not only is Bowers on pace to break the single-season passing yards record this year, but if Bowers does get those two additional games (MACC and Bowl game) then he's also on pace to go over 3,559 yards, which is all he needs to place 10th on the CAREER passing yards list.

A similar second year and he will almost undoubtedly finish second on the career list behind only 4-year starter Chandler Harnish.
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(10-14-2019 09:26 AM)NorthCoast Wrote:  NIU STARTED 1-3 LAST SEASON.

TAKE CAREY'S DICK OUT OF YOUR MOUTH AND SHOVE YOUR "WINNING PERCENTAGE" CRACK, UP YOUR CRACK.

GO NIU!




Hey, if that's best you can do you better call for help..I remember the first time ai had a beer..its cool. Again, what did my post have to do with Carey and / or his ****?


Re read my post, and seemed like a positive pro Bowers a post with the caveat, that if you don t win..numbers are not important..I want him to have the " it " factor cause it's good for my school..he has not shown me any reason to doubt it either...let's stay tuned.. BTW - you seem to like cocks ( not that there is anything wrong with that)
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Hey, you learned how to quote a post and reply at the same time. YAY! Good for you.

Next up, tying your shoes.

******* moron.

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(10-14-2019 08:49 AM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 06:32 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 06:27 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 03:52 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  NIU Top 3 Passing Seasons
1) Chandler Harnish: 3,216yds (2011)
2) Jordan Lynch: 3,138 (2012)
3) George Bork: 3,077 (1963)

Will Bowers crack this list in his first year, second year, or both?

If Bowers does crack the 3K mark in both seasons he can finish in the Top 5 All-Time NIU Career passing yards (or just outside of it).

On pace for 3,270yds for the regular season (with theoretically the three toughest games already played). Plus, you would potentially add the MACC and Bowl game.

Oh yeah, and these numbers include the "learning curve" of a new team, new coaches, new Offensive system, and having to knock 2-year old rust off.

07-coffee3

Not only is Bowers on pace to break the single-season passing yards record this year, but if Bowers does get those two additional games (MACC and Bowl game) then he's also on pace to go over 3,559 yards, which is all he needs to place 10th on the CAREER passing yards list.

A similar second year and he will almost undoubtedly finish second on the career list behind only 4-year starter Chandler Harnish.
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The list I'm looking at shows Childers at #10 with 3,849 career passing yards.

But yea, it's a frenetic pace of passing yards compared to what we're used to.
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