(10-10-2018 04:27 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 06:08 AM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 02:42 PM)banker Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 01:14 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  We will be fine the rest of the way...just helpless hoping MTSU will lose 2. I can only see one loss the rest of the way for MTSU. Unless they pull a "Stockstill" again.

Fine because you don't have to play any more good teams, just mediocre to bad ones that have trouble exposing your weaknesses. That's the point. You are definitely one of the best teams in this conference, but that doesn't make you good.

We only can play the games scheduled; that is the luck of the draw.

The hysterics in this conference is amazing, MTSU was writing off the season before conference play then win the next two and pretty much as long as they don't mess it up they should win the division. We all need to chill out. Sorry you all didn't stay in the MAC.

Wanting some teams to step up and be better, especially OOC, is a good thing. Wanting THIS conference to be better, us needing to step up included, is a good thing. You'll find that almost none of the Marshall fans want to be in the MAC. Your little dig has no effect on that majority.

No one but UNT, no one, had a solid enough OOC to amount to anything outside this conference and it's championship. Now they are banged up and may lose a few before they get rolling again. This isn't on them. The rest of us didn't do our jobs against teams outside of this conference, good, bad, or ugly. So if Tech is the only school they lose to, then fine. But if they drop a couple more we look tremendously weak and, frankly, are tremendously weak. If everyone is going to **** the bed and then beat up on each other, then we need a Boise St type team to carry us. FAU isn't it. Marshall isn't it. MT isn't it. Tech isn't it. UNT was our only shot this year and that's likely blown unless they win out, convincingly, and do it for a few years in a row.

Agreed. I have no desire to go back to the MAC. I definitely prefer being in CUSA over going to the MAC or Sun Belt. Nothing against either conference, I just prefer this lineup due to having a lot of alumni in the south.

(10-10-2018 04:27 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 06:08 AM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 02:42 PM)banker Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 01:14 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  We will be fine the rest of the way...just helpless hoping MTSU will lose 2. I can only see one loss the rest of the way for MTSU. Unless they pull a "Stockstill" again.

Fine because you don't have to play any more good teams, just mediocre to bad ones that have trouble exposing your weaknesses. That's the point. You are definitely one of the best teams in this conference, but that doesn't make you good.

We only can play the games scheduled; that is the luck of the draw.

The hysterics in this conference is amazing, MTSU was writing off the season before conference play then win the next two and pretty much as long as they don't mess it up they should win the division. We all need to chill out. Sorry you all didn't stay in the MAC.

Wanting some teams to step up and be better, especially OOC, is a good thing. Wanting THIS conference to be better, us needing to step up included, is a good thing. You'll find that almost none of the Marshall fans want to be in the MAC. Your little dig has no effect on that majority.

No one but UNT, no one, had a solid enough OOC to amount to anything outside this conference and it's championship. Now they are banged up and may lose a few before they get rolling again. This isn't on them. The rest of us didn't do our jobs against teams outside of this conference, good, bad, or ugly. So if Tech is the only school they lose to, then fine. But if they drop a couple more we look tremendously weak and, frankly, are tremendously weak. If everyone is going to **** the bed and then beat up on each other, then we need a Boise St type team to carry us. FAU isn't it. Marshall isn't it. MT isn't it. Tech isn't it. UNT was our only shot this year and that's likely blown unless they win out, convincingly, and do it for a few years in a row.

As a collective, we need all of our programs to schedule in a fashion that gives them real consistent opportunities to finish with strong showings against their OOC line ups every year. The problem is that it costs money. Too many of our programs are addicted to body bag money, and are either not creative enough to develop other revenue streams, or lack the proper support from their university.

Our programs must do a better job of protecting their coaching staffs from being raided. FAU lost Briles to Houston after last season, and Chris Kiffin to the 49ers. They also lost position coaches to Hawaii, and UNLV. Now, most would agree, FAU is a far cry from the team they were last season. Winning programs need stability, and that cost money too.

I've said it for a while now, but many want to ignore the obvious.... it is getting more expensive to play football at the FBS level. It's even more expensive if you want to be good.

Over the next few season, I believe the teams in C-USA that move away from the body bag games, and invest more into coaches salaries and facilities, will be the most successful, and lead this conference into the future.

I’ll agree with you sideshow. Bodybag philosophy and just caring to get from one year to the next has led us to where we are now. We must all have someone with ideas and thinking outside the box to advance.

(10-10-2018 05:56 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(10-09-2018 10:03 PM)banker Wrote:  Leave it up to an AAC fan to think everything is recruiting. He is saying "stars" as in short for "superstar", i.e. Really good players. Every team has a few really good players, but all else is equal. If your really good player happens to be a QB, all the better.

I was referring to recruiting.

Well, then you were wrong. There's a ton of 3 stars in CUSA and hardly any player is rated a one star. Almost every kid that gets a FBS offer gets the obligatory 2 stars.

Body bag games aren't the big issue. The big issue is having teams that lose to FCS schools and bad G5 teams from other conferences.

(10-10-2018 09:10 PM)banker Wrote:  Body bag games aren't the big issue. The big issue is having teams that lose to FCS schools and bad G5 teams from other conferences.

The losses to FCS and bad G5 programs are just the symptoms of C-USA's overall health problem. And, our health problem isn't being treated correctly because MacLeod is our doctor.

(10-10-2018 04:27 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 06:08 AM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 02:42 PM)banker Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 01:14 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  We will be fine the rest of the way...just helpless hoping MTSU will lose 2. I can only see one loss the rest of the way for MTSU. Unless they pull a "Stockstill" again.

Fine because you don't have to play any more good teams, just mediocre to bad ones that have trouble exposing your weaknesses. That's the point. You are definitely one of the best teams in this conference, but that doesn't make you good.

We only can play the games scheduled; that is the luck of the draw.

The hysterics in this conference is amazing, MTSU was writing off the season before conference play then win the next two and pretty much as long as they don't mess it up they should win the division. We all need to chill out. Sorry you all didn't stay in the MAC.

Wanting some teams to step up and be better, especially OOC, is a good thing. Wanting THIS conference to be better, us needing to step up included, is a good thing. You'll find that almost none of the Marshall fans want to be in the MAC. Your little dig has no effect on that majority.

No one but UNT, no one, had a solid enough OOC to amount to anything outside this conference and it's championship. Now they are banged up and may lose a few before they get rolling again. This isn't on them. The rest of us didn't do our jobs against teams outside of this conference, good, bad, or ugly. So if Tech is the only school they lose to, then fine. But if they drop a couple more we look tremendously weak and, frankly, are tremendously weak. If everyone is going to **** the bed and then beat up on each other, then we need a Boise St type team to carry us. FAU isn't it. Marshall isn't it. MT isn't it. Tech isn't it. UNT was our only shot this year and that's likely blown unless they win out, convincingly, and do it for a few years in a row.

Totally disagree. UTSA has been playing the toughest OOC in this conference for at least 4 years according to FPI. We cost ourselves Bowl invites because we play high powered Big 12 teams & Pac 12 teams. Other schools I'm seeing play bottom feeders of P5 schools, Arkansas, SMU every year and FCS scool or bad G5's. Show me a team in this conference that's played more than 2 P5's that finish with a winning record last 4 years. UTSA plays Arizona AZ State KSU Baylor Houston CO St , we are set to platy Texas AM for next 3 years, Memphis, Illinois, Etc. 2 P5's basically every year

Plus we lead the conference in attendance on Medicare teams.

(10-10-2018 11:10 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 04:27 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 06:08 AM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 02:42 PM)banker Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 01:14 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  We will be fine the rest of the way...just helpless hoping MTSU will lose 2. I can only see one loss the rest of the way for MTSU. Unless they pull a "Stockstill" again.

Fine because you don't have to play any more good teams, just mediocre to bad ones that have trouble exposing your weaknesses. That's the point. You are definitely one of the best teams in this conference, but that doesn't make you good.

We only can play the games scheduled; that is the luck of the draw.

The hysterics in this conference is amazing, MTSU was writing off the season before conference play then win the next two and pretty much as long as they don't mess it up they should win the division. We all need to chill out. Sorry you all didn't stay in the MAC.

Wanting some teams to step up and be better, especially OOC, is a good thing. Wanting THIS conference to be better, us needing to step up included, is a good thing. You'll find that almost none of the Marshall fans want to be in the MAC. Your little dig has no effect on that majority.

No one but UNT, no one, had a solid enough OOC to amount to anything outside this conference and it's championship. Now they are banged up and may lose a few before they get rolling again. This isn't on them. The rest of us didn't do our jobs against teams outside of this conference, good, bad, or ugly. So if Tech is the only school they lose to, then fine. But if they drop a couple more we look tremendously weak and, frankly, are tremendously weak. If everyone is going to **** the bed and then beat up on each other, then we need a Boise St type team to carry us. FAU isn't it. Marshall isn't it. MT isn't it. Tech isn't it. UNT was our only shot this year and that's likely blown unless they win out, convincingly, and do it for a few years in a row.

Totally disagree. UTSA has been playing the toughest OOC in this conference for at least 4 years according to FPI. We cost ourselves Bowl invites because we play high powered Big 12 teams & Pac 12 teams. Other schools I'm seeing play bottom feeders of P5 schools, Arkansas, SMU every year and FCS scool or bad G5's. Show me a team in this conference that's played more than 2 P5's that finish with a winning record last 4 years. UTSA plays Arizona AZ State KSU Baylor Houston CO St , we are set to platy Texas AM for next 3 years, Memphis, Illinois, Etc. 2 P5's basically every year

1. Arizona, AZ State, and KSU are and have not been “high-powered” P5s. Baylor was like 3 years ago (might be this year).

2. OOC isn’t the reason UTSAdidn’t go bowling in 2014, 2015, or 2017.

2014 - 4-8 overall (3-5 conference) played 2 P5s...5 CUSA losses did the trick there

2015 - 3-9 overall (3-5 conference) yes, 3 P5 losses (one with 7 wins and one with 6 wins), oh and a loss to 7-6 Colorado State. But again, I’d say 5 CUSA losses determined UTSA’s fate that year.

2017 - 6-5 overall (3-5 conference) you played 1 P5 in Baylor (who went 1-11). You were bowl eligible, but again, 5 conference losses is why you didn’t get an invite.


So no, your morale victory losses against low-to-middle of the pack P5s did not prevent you from bowling. Going 3-5 in conference play 3 out of the last 4 years did.

Lol where the hell are your P5 wins? Arkansas who gets blown out every game? You play SMU a disasteres program. Name a team that you've played In last 4 years that's better than Ok St. 6 wins give you bowl eligibility. You played teams of P5 that barely made it to .500, minus Florida who still didn't have a better record the season we played them when they went 10-3. FPI even shows your OOC is weaker than ours last 4 years, so your actually wrong

The year you played Texas they sucked and you got blown out, they were 7-6. Year you played Florida you got blown out, you got blown out by Iowa 62 -16. They had a fluke season, after double checking that's the only team that had a decent record better than Ok st. You guys also went 1-11 that year.

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What's UNTs record against UTSA?? Sorry for the rant but UNT has been a awful program minus 2-4 years over 40 years. Don't feel like they should talk shiet

(10-10-2018 11:50 PM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 11:10 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 04:27 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 06:08 AM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 02:42 PM)banker Wrote:  Fine because you don't have to play any more good teams, just mediocre to bad ones that have trouble exposing your weaknesses. That's the point. You are definitely one of the best teams in this conference, but that doesn't make you good.

We only can play the games scheduled; that is the luck of the draw.

The hysterics in this conference is amazing, MTSU was writing off the season before conference play then win the next two and pretty much as long as they don't mess it up they should win the division. We all need to chill out. Sorry you all didn't stay in the MAC.

Wanting some teams to step up and be better, especially OOC, is a good thing. Wanting THIS conference to be better, us needing to step up included, is a good thing. You'll find that almost none of the Marshall fans want to be in the MAC. Your little dig has no effect on that majority.

No one but UNT, no one, had a solid enough OOC to amount to anything outside this conference and it's championship. Now they are banged up and may lose a few before they get rolling again. This isn't on them. The rest of us didn't do our jobs against teams outside of this conference, good, bad, or ugly. So if Tech is the only school they lose to, then fine. But if they drop a couple more we look tremendously weak and, frankly, are tremendously weak. If everyone is going to **** the bed and then beat up on each other, then we need a Boise St type team to carry us. FAU isn't it. Marshall isn't it. MT isn't it. Tech isn't it. UNT was our only shot this year and that's likely blown unless they win out, convincingly, and do it for a few years in a row.

Totally disagree. UTSA has been playing the toughest OOC in this conference for at least 4 years according to FPI. We cost ourselves Bowl invites because we play high powered Big 12 teams & Pac 12 teams. Other schools I'm seeing play bottom feeders of P5 schools, Arkansas, SMU every year and FCS scool or bad G5's. Show me a team in this conference that's played more than 2 P5's that finish with a winning record last 4 years. UTSA plays Arizona AZ State KSU Baylor Houston CO St , we are set to platy Texas AM for next 3 years, Memphis, Illinois, Etc. 2 P5's basically every year

1. Arizona, AZ State, and KSU are and have not been “high-powered” P5s. Baylor was like 3 years ago (might be this year).

2. OOC isn’t the reason UTSAdidn’t go bowling in 2014, 2015, or 2017.

2014 - 4-8 overall (3-5 conference) played 2 P5s...5 CUSA losses did the trick there

2015 - 3-9 overall (3-5 conference) yes, 3 P5 losses (one with 7 wins and one with 6 wins), oh and a loss to 7-6 Colorado State. But again, I’d say 5 CUSA losses determined UTSA’s fate that year.

2017 - 6-5 overall (3-5 conference) you played 1 P5 in Baylor (who went 1-11). You were bowl eligible, but again, 5 conference losses is why you didn’t get an invite.


So no, your morale victory losses against low-to-middle of the pack P5s did not prevent you from bowling. Going 3-5 in conference play 3 out of the last 4 years did.

Waiting

Yeah, lets cut back to 6 conference games so we can play more OOC games. The newbies need to spread their brand names far and wide. Make someone care about beating them.

(10-11-2018 02:16 AM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 11:50 PM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 11:10 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 04:27 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 06:08 AM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  We only can play the games scheduled; that is the luck of the draw.

The hysterics in this conference is amazing, MTSU was writing off the season before conference play then win the next two and pretty much as long as they don't mess it up they should win the division. We all need to chill out. Sorry you all didn't stay in the MAC.

Wanting some teams to step up and be better, especially OOC, is a good thing. Wanting THIS conference to be better, us needing to step up included, is a good thing. You'll find that almost none of the Marshall fans want to be in the MAC. Your little dig has no effect on that majority.

No one but UNT, no one, had a solid enough OOC to amount to anything outside this conference and it's championship. Now they are banged up and may lose a few before they get rolling again. This isn't on them. The rest of us didn't do our jobs against teams outside of this conference, good, bad, or ugly. So if Tech is the only school they lose to, then fine. But if they drop a couple more we look tremendously weak and, frankly, are tremendously weak. If everyone is going to **** the bed and then beat up on each other, then we need a Boise St type team to carry us. FAU isn't it. Marshall isn't it. MT isn't it. Tech isn't it. UNT was our only shot this year and that's likely blown unless they win out, convincingly, and do it for a few years in a row.

Totally disagree. UTSA has been playing the toughest OOC in this conference for at least 4 years according to FPI. We cost ourselves Bowl invites because we play high powered Big 12 teams & Pac 12 teams. Other schools I'm seeing play bottom feeders of P5 schools, Arkansas, SMU every year and FCS scool or bad G5's. Show me a team in this conference that's played more than 2 P5's that finish with a winning record last 4 years. UTSA plays Arizona AZ State KSU Baylor Houston CO St , we are set to platy Texas AM for next 3 years, Memphis, Illinois, Etc. 2 P5's basically every year

1. Arizona, AZ State, and KSU are and have not been “high-powered” P5s. Baylor was like 3 years ago (might be this year).

2. OOC isn’t the reason UTSAdidn’t go bowling in 2014, 2015, or 2017.

2014 - 4-8 overall (3-5 conference) played 2 P5s...5 CUSA losses did the trick there

2015 - 3-9 overall (3-5 conference) yes, 3 P5 losses (one with 7 wins and one with 6 wins), oh and a loss to 7-6 Colorado State. But again, I’d say 5 CUSA losses determined UTSA’s fate that year.

2017 - 6-5 overall (3-5 conference) you played 1 P5 in Baylor (who went 1-11). You were bowl eligible, but again, 5 conference losses is why you didn’t get an invite.


So no, your morale victory losses against low-to-middle of the pack P5s did not prevent you from bowling. Going 3-5 in conference play 3 out of the last 4 years did.

Waiting

My point, if you read what I wrote, is that you can't use your OOC schedule as an excuse for UTSA's shortcomings. Maybe if UTSA didn't lose 5 out of 8 conference games in 3 out of the last 4 years, then your post might have some semblance of legitimacy.

(10-10-2018 08:39 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  I’ll agree with you sideshow. Bodybag philosophy and just caring to get from one year to the next has led us to where we are now. We must all have someone with ideas and thinking outside the box to advance.

VT lost their starting QB in the ODU game. Auburn had many injuries from the USM game. I don't think of playing a good P5 team as a bodybag game. Sure, may lose by 30, but we have conf games where that happens.

I don't see any more injuries out of playing a really good P5 team anymore than playing a G5 team.

(10-11-2018 09:31 AM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  

(10-11-2018 02:16 AM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 11:50 PM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 11:10 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 04:27 PM)MUther Wrote:  Wanting some teams to step up and be better, especially OOC, is a good thing. Wanting THIS conference to be better, us needing to step up included, is a good thing. You'll find that almost none of the Marshall fans want to be in the MAC. Your little dig has no effect on that majority.

No one but UNT, no one, had a solid enough OOC to amount to anything outside this conference and it's championship. Now they are banged up and may lose a few before they get rolling again. This isn't on them. The rest of us didn't do our jobs against teams outside of this conference, good, bad, or ugly. So if Tech is the only school they lose to, then fine. But if they drop a couple more we look tremendously weak and, frankly, are tremendously weak. If everyone is going to **** the bed and then beat up on each other, then we need a Boise St type team to carry us. FAU isn't it. Marshall isn't it. MT isn't it. Tech isn't it. UNT was our only shot this year and that's likely blown unless they win out, convincingly, and do it for a few years in a row.

Totally disagree. UTSA has been playing the toughest OOC in this conference for at least 4 years according to FPI. We cost ourselves Bowl invites because we play high powered Big 12 teams & Pac 12 teams. Other schools I'm seeing play bottom feeders of P5 schools, Arkansas, SMU every year and FCS scool or bad G5's. Show me a team in this conference that's played more than 2 P5's that finish with a winning record last 4 years. UTSA plays Arizona AZ State KSU Baylor Houston CO St , we are set to platy Texas AM for next 3 years, Memphis, Illinois, Etc. 2 P5's basically every year

1. Arizona, AZ State, and KSU are and have not been “high-powered” P5s. Baylor was like 3 years ago (might be this year).

2. OOC isn’t the reason UTSAdidn’t go bowling in 2014, 2015, or 2017.

2014 - 4-8 overall (3-5 conference) played 2 P5s...5 CUSA losses did the trick there

2015 - 3-9 overall (3-5 conference) yes, 3 P5 losses (one with 7 wins and one with 6 wins), oh and a loss to 7-6 Colorado State. But again, I’d say 5 CUSA losses determined UTSA’s fate that year.

2017 - 6-5 overall (3-5 conference) you played 1 P5 in Baylor (who went 1-11). You were bowl eligible, but again, 5 conference losses is why you didn’t get an invite.


So no, your morale victory losses against low-to-middle of the pack P5s did not prevent you from bowling. Going 3-5 in conference play 3 out of the last 4 years did.

Waiting

My point, if you read what I wrote, is that you can't use your OOC schedule as an excuse for UTSA's shortcomings. Maybe if UTSA didn't lose 5 out of 8 conference games in 3 out of the last 4 years, then your post might have some semblance of legitimacy.

what r ur short comings the last 40 years except 2. We play at least 2 P5's that are above average or better the last 5 years. We also have tough OOC set up the next 5 years. While if we played bottom feeders of P5 then we might come out of OOC 2-2 instead of 1-3. We finished the last 2 years with bowl eligibility. It's hilarious that UNT act like they a good program when they've been a laughing stock for decades and you have 1-2 good years and you try to give everyone advice.

Heres UNTs record last 20 years. You shouldn't be telling anyone shiet. Your attendance is even worse and I can post that too, but your record speaks for itself and if you want to see the full 40 it's just as bad. Below .500 3/4 of the previous 20. You've also had a SOS in the negatives 39/40 years. In the last 20 years it's been in the negatives.

(10-10-2018 11:10 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 04:27 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 06:08 AM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 02:42 PM)banker Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 01:14 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  We will be fine the rest of the way...just helpless hoping MTSU will lose 2. I can only see one loss the rest of the way for MTSU. Unless they pull a "Stockstill" again.

Fine because you don't have to play any more good teams, just mediocre to bad ones that have trouble exposing your weaknesses. That's the point. You are definitely one of the best teams in this conference, but that doesn't make you good.

We only can play the games scheduled; that is the luck of the draw.

The hysterics in this conference is amazing, MTSU was writing off the season before conference play then win the next two and pretty much as long as they don't mess it up they should win the division. We all need to chill out. Sorry you all didn't stay in the MAC.

Wanting some teams to step up and be better, especially OOC, is a good thing. Wanting THIS conference to be better, us needing to step up included, is a good thing. You'll find that almost none of the Marshall fans want to be in the MAC. Your little dig has no effect on that majority.

No one but UNT, no one, had a solid enough OOC to amount to anything outside this conference and it's championship. Now they are banged up and may lose a few before they get rolling again. This isn't on them. The rest of us didn't do our jobs against teams outside of this conference, good, bad, or ugly. So if Tech is the only school they lose to, then fine. But if they drop a couple more we look tremendously weak and, frankly, are tremendously weak. If everyone is going to **** the bed and then beat up on each other, then we need a Boise St type team to carry us. FAU isn't it. Marshall isn't it. MT isn't it. Tech isn't it. UNT was our only shot this year and that's likely blown unless they win out, convincingly, and do it for a few years in a row.

Totally disagree. UTSA has been playing the toughest OOC in this conference for at least 4 years according to FPI. We cost ourselves Bowl invites because we play high powered Big 12 teams & Pac 12 teams. Other schools I'm seeing play bottom feeders of P5 schools, Arkansas, SMU every year and FCS scool or bad G5's. Show me a team in this conference that's played more than 2 P5's that finish with a winning record last 4 years. UTSA plays Arizona AZ State KSU Baylor Houston CO St , we are set to platy Texas AM for next 3 years, Memphis, Illinois, Etc. 2 P5's basically every year

Congratulations, you can make reservations for UTSA to watch bowl season from the comfort of the UTSA dorms. Costing yourselves bowl games is categorically stupid.