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(10-11-2018 12:55 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(10-10-2018 11:10 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(10-10-2018 04:27 PM)MUther Wrote:  
(10-08-2018 06:08 AM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  
(10-07-2018 02:42 PM)banker Wrote:  Fine because you don't have to play any more good teams, just mediocre to bad ones that have trouble exposing your weaknesses. That's the point. You are definitely one of the best teams in this conference, but that doesn't make you good.

We only can play the games scheduled; that is the luck of the draw.

The hysterics in this conference is amazing, MTSU was writing off the season before conference play then win the next two and pretty much as long as they don't mess it up they should win the division. We all need to chill out. Sorry you all didn't stay in the MAC.

Wanting some teams to step up and be better, especially OOC, is a good thing. Wanting THIS conference to be better, us needing to step up included, is a good thing. You'll find that almost none of the Marshall fans want to be in the MAC. Your little dig has no effect on that majority.

No one but UNT, no one, had a solid enough OOC to amount to anything outside this conference and it's championship. Now they are banged up and may lose a few before they get rolling again. This isn't on them. The rest of us didn't do our jobs against teams outside of this conference, good, bad, or ugly. So if Tech is the only school they lose to, then fine. But if they drop a couple more we look tremendously weak and, frankly, are tremendously weak. If everyone is going to **** the bed and then beat up on each other, then we need a Boise St type team to carry us. FAU isn't it. Marshall isn't it. MT isn't it. Tech isn't it. UNT was our only shot this year and that's likely blown unless they win out, convincingly, and do it for a few years in a row.



Totally disagree. UTSA has been playing the toughest OOC in this conference for at least 4 years according to FPI. We cost ourselves Bowl invites because we play high powered Big 12 teams & Pac 12 teams. Other schools I'm seeing play bottom feeders of P5 schools, Arkansas, SMU every year and FCS scool or bad G5's. Show me a team in this conference that's played more than 2 P5's that finish with a winning record last 4 years. UTSA plays Arizona AZ State KSU Baylor Houston CO St , we are set to platy Texas AM for next 3 years, Memphis, Illinois, Etc. 2 P5's basically every year

Congratulations, you can make reservations for UTSA to watch bowl season from the comfort of the UTSA dorms. Costing yourselves bowl games is categorically stupid.

Well if we win the games we don't cost ourselves. We almost beast AZ and we beat Baylor and Houston. All of which paid us money. So eventually we will get better and haveva chance to win and get paid. Look at the entire pic, plus when we play the PAC 12 and big 12 teams its on nat tv. So you also get exposure. People forget we've had football for 8 years. Give us time. We are moving in right direction.
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We've also finished bowl eligible the last 2 years, last year our Houston game got canceled. So we finished 6-5.
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My whole point is we have been playing good teams every year and have Hard P5 teams coming up the next 4 years. We just started playing Texas St because we draw big attendace.
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This was my other point UNT should relax. Yes 2 good years but out of 40. Meh I wouldn't tell people what to do . You have a 28% winning % over 40 years.


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(10-11-2018 01:58 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  This was my other point UNT should relax. Yes 2 good years but out of 40. Meh I wouldn't tell people what to do . You have a 28% winning % over 40 years.


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I think you might be the only person aware of the point you're trying to make. What exactly are you responding to?

Stay in school.
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(10-11-2018 02:49 PM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 01:58 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  This was my other point UNT should relax. Yes 2 good years but out of 40. Meh I wouldn't tell people what to do . You have a 28% winning % over 40 years.


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I think you might be the only person aware of the point you're trying to make. What exactly are you responding to?

Stay in school.

Lol stay in school. You have no idea what I do. The point is we have played and will play tough OOC, last 8 years and scheduled for the next 4. You, as in UNT have no grounds on telling what people to do or schedule. You have a winning % of 28 over 40 years. So you have awful success and none of your blueprints for success work. End of story. You beat an awful SMU, and a beyond awful Arkansas. You r in 5 place in the west but you act like you've already won the division. You got embarrassed by FAU last year & so there's no reason to listen to UNT fans about success, because over a large sample size you have none.
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(10-11-2018 03:48 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 02:49 PM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 01:58 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  This was my other point UNT should relax. Yes 2 good years but out of 40. Meh I wouldn't tell people what to do . You have a 28% winning % over 40 years.


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I think you might be the only person aware of the point you're trying to make. What exactly are you responding to?

Stay in school.

Lol stay in school. You have no idea what I do. The point is we have played and will play tough OOC, last 8 years and scheduled for the next 4. You, as in UNT have no grounds on telling what people to do or schedule. You have a winning % of 28 over 40 years. So you have awful success and none of your blueprints for success work. End of story. You beat an awful SMU, and a beyond awful Arkansas. You r in 5 place in the west but you act like you've already won the division. You got embarrassed by FAU last year & so there's no reason to listen to UNT fans about success, because over a large sample size you have none.

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(10-11-2018 02:16 AM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(10-10-2018 11:50 PM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  
(10-10-2018 11:10 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(10-10-2018 04:27 PM)MUther Wrote:  
(10-08-2018 06:08 AM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  We only can play the games scheduled; that is the luck of the draw.

The hysterics in this conference is amazing, MTSU was writing off the season before conference play then win the next two and pretty much as long as they don't mess it up they should win the division. We all need to chill out. Sorry you all didn't stay in the MAC.

Wanting some teams to step up and be better, especially OOC, is a good thing. Wanting THIS conference to be better, us needing to step up included, is a good thing. You'll find that almost none of the Marshall fans want to be in the MAC. Your little dig has no effect on that majority.

No one but UNT, no one, had a solid enough OOC to amount to anything outside this conference and it's championship. Now they are banged up and may lose a few before they get rolling again. This isn't on them. The rest of us didn't do our jobs against teams outside of this conference, good, bad, or ugly. So if Tech is the only school they lose to, then fine. But if they drop a couple more we look tremendously weak and, frankly, are tremendously weak. If everyone is going to **** the bed and then beat up on each other, then we need a Boise St type team to carry us. FAU isn't it. Marshall isn't it. MT isn't it. Tech isn't it. UNT was our only shot this year and that's likely blown unless they win out, convincingly, and do it for a few years in a row.



Totally disagree. UTSA has been playing the toughest OOC in this conference for at least 4 years according to FPI. We cost ourselves Bowl invites because we play high powered Big 12 teams & Pac 12 teams. Other schools I'm seeing play bottom feeders of P5 schools, Arkansas, SMU every year and FCS scool or bad G5's. Show me a team in this conference that's played more than 2 P5's that finish with a winning record last 4 years. UTSA plays Arizona AZ State KSU Baylor Houston CO St , we are set to platy Texas AM for next 3 years, Memphis, Illinois, Etc. 2 P5's basically every year

1. Arizona, AZ State, and KSU are and have not been “high-powered” P5s. Baylor was like 3 years ago (might be this year).

2. OOC isn’t the reason UTSAdidn’t go bowling in 2014, 2015, or 2017.

2014 - 4-8 overall (3-5 conference) played 2 P5s...5 CUSA losses did the trick there

2015 - 3-9 overall (3-5 conference) yes, 3 P5 losses (one with 7 wins and one with 6 wins), oh and a loss to 7-6 Colorado State. But again, I’d say 5 CUSA losses determined UTSA’s fate that year.

2017 - 6-5 overall (3-5 conference) you played 1 P5 in Baylor (who went 1-11). You were bowl eligible, but again, 5 conference losses is why you didn’t get an invite.


So no, your morale victory losses against low-to-middle of the pack P5s did not prevent you from bowling. Going 3-5 in conference play 3 out of the last 4 years did.


Waiting

Its' not about playing the toughest OOC. It's about winning your OOC games and then winning conference games. We could schedule Alabama 4 times and lose them all. Does nothing for the conference appeal. You're selling bodybag games and you want an attaboy for scheduling? Play a realistic OOC that you can win 3-4 of and then don't **** the bed in conference play, then you'll get some notice. UNT was on that path until they got injured. If they get their **** together and don't lose another then they will be right up there. FAU losing to Buffalo and Navy cost them a lot of recognition last year. Win either of those or both and they get ighly ranked. Not UCF ranked but highly.
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The excuses for why teams don't perform well on this board are laughable.

*We play tough OOC P5 games* [actually, you don't]
*Our players were depressed because they lost a game* [are you a 6th grade school girl?]


At least when USM sucks our fans will say we suck. Even when we are decent our fans will still say we suck. We may say we'll beat you, but that is because we know you suck too.
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(10-11-2018 03:48 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 02:49 PM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 01:58 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  This was my other point UNT should relax. Yes 2 good years but out of 40. Meh I wouldn't tell people what to do . You have a 28% winning % over 40 years.


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I think you might be the only person aware of the point you're trying to make. What exactly are you responding to?

Stay in school.

Lol stay in school. You have no idea what I do. The point is we have played and will play tough OOC, last 8 years and scheduled for the next 4. You, as in UNT have no grounds on telling what people to do or schedule. You have a winning % of 28 over 40 years. So you have awful success and none of your blueprints for success work. End of story. You beat an awful SMU, and a beyond awful Arkansas. You r in 5 place in the west but you act like you've already won the division. You got embarrassed by FAU last year & so there's no reason to listen to UNT fans about success, because over a large sample size you have none.


For one, where did you get the number 40? At the top, it says 54 years. Keep scrolling down.

Second, whether you looked at 40 or 54 seasons, simple math would tell you a winning percentage of 28 is utterly wrong. You can eyeball the 40 seasons you posted and figure that out.

If you mean we've played in 8 bowls and have only won 2 out of those 8, then yes.

Third, and most important, I never said anything about UNT being this or being that. I didn't even say anything truly critical about UTSA other than that they didn't go bowling because they didn't do well in conference play. My entire point was wholly and totally directed at your ridiculous statements about UTSA's OOC schedule and it preventing UTSA from making a bowl.
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Do you both have problems with comprehension. ? I said we play teams that are good P5 teams OOC prior and in future. AZ went 10-4 in 2015, we played Texas AM, we played Ok st when then went 10-2, we played AZ, KS st, Ok st, Co St all in a row. Show me 8 teams in our conference that has had a tougher schedule. UNT played Iowa when they won 5 games and texas, I mean if you consider playing one team that's a P5 that wins 5-9 wins once out of 4 conference games good that's fine. I'm saying play at least 2-3
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(10-11-2018 06:53 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  Do you both have problems with comprehension. ? I said we play teams that are good P5 teams OOC prior and in future. AZ went 10-4 in 2015, we played Texas AM, we played Ok st when then went 10-2, we played AZ, KS st, Ok st, Co St all in a row. Show me 8 teams in our conference that has had a tougher schedule.

Okay. UTSA plays really good P5 teams and loses to them. No one else in the conference plays really good P5 teams.
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(10-11-2018 06:47 PM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 03:48 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 02:49 PM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 01:58 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  This was my other point UNT should relax. Yes 2 good years but out of 40. Meh I wouldn't tell people what to do . You have a 28% winning % over 40 years.


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I think you might be the only person aware of the point you're trying to make. What exactly are you responding to?

Stay in school.

Lol stay in school. You have no idea what I do. The point is we have played and will play tough OOC, last 8 years and scheduled for the next 4. You, as in UNT have no grounds on telling what people to do or schedule. You have a winning % of 28 over 40 years. So you have awful success and none of your blueprints for success work. End of story. You beat an awful SMU, and a beyond awful Arkansas. You r in 5 place in the west but you act like you've already won the division. You got embarrassed by FAU last year & so there's no reason to listen to UNT fans about success, because over a large sample size you have none.


For one, where did you get the number 40? At the top, it says 54 years. Keep scrolling down.

Second, whether you looked at 40 or 54 seasons, simple math would tell you a winning percentage of 28 is utterly wrong. You can eyeball the 40 seasons you posted and figure that out.

If you mean we've played in 8 bowls and have only won 2 out of those 8, then yes.

Third, and most important, I never said anything about UNT being this or being that. I didn't even say anything truly critical about UTSA other than that they didn't go bowling because they didn't do well in conference play. My entire point was wholly and totally directed at your ridiculous statements about UTSA's OOC schedule and it preventing UTSA from making a bowl.


Dude I do have a degree. I also served in the military & have a pretty damn good job. I also have a masters. So sorry to disappoint you.
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(10-11-2018 07:01 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 06:53 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  Do you both have problems with comprehension. ? I said we play teams that are good P5 teams OOC prior and in future. AZ went 10-4 in 2015, we played Texas AM, we played Ok st when then went 10-2, we played AZ, KS st, Ok st, Co St all in a row. Show me 8 teams in our conference that has had a tougher schedule.

Okay. UTSA plays really good P5 teams and loses to them. No one else in the conference plays really good P5 teams.

No I didn't say really good P5's. I said P5's. Yes we lose to them, just like a lot of other teams in our conference. I said we play multiple P5's, in a row. Just like this year. AZ state, Baylor, Kansas St.
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(10-11-2018 06:47 PM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 03:48 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 02:49 PM)GreenGate2006 Wrote:  [quote='Lizard Breath' pid='15571854' dateline='1539284304']
This was my other point UNT should relax. Yes 2 good years but out of 40. Meh I wouldn't tell people what to do . You have a 28% winning % over 40 years.


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I think you might be the only person aware of the point you're trying to make. What exactly are you responding to?

Stay in school.

Lol stay in school. You have no idea what I do. The point is we have played and will play tough OOC, last 8 years and scheduled for the next 4. You, as in UNT have no grounds on telling what people to do or schedule. You have a winning % of 28 over 40 years. So you have awful success and none of your blueprints for success work. End of story. You beat an awful SMU, and a beyond awful Arkansas. You r in 5 place in the west but you act like you've already won the division. You got embarrassed by FAU last year & so there's no reason to listen to UNT fans about success, because over a large sample size you have none.


For one, where did you get the number 40? At the top, it says 54 years. Keep scrolling down.

Second, whether you looked at 40 or 54 seasons, simple math would tell you a winning percentage of 28 is utterly wrong. You can eyeball the 40 seasons you posted and figure that out.

If you mean we've played in 8 bowls and have only won 2 out of those 8, then yes.

Third, and most important, I never said anything about UNT being this or being that. I didn't even say anything truly critical about UTSA other than that they didn't go bowling because they didn't do well in conference play. My entire point was wholly and totally directed at your ridiculous statements about UTSA's OOC schedule and it preventing UTSA from making a bowl.
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Sorry over 54 seasons . You played 592 and you won 254. Not good bro
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All I'm replying to is UNT is not the only school playing good OOC schedule. That's it. We play at least 2 tough P5's every year. You can look at our schedule. Whether it's Texas AM and Ok St, Or anyone else.
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I'm not being critical of anyone else in this conference either.
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We’ll trade with ya...We have Alabama and Mississippi State next year, and of course on the road.
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(10-11-2018 08:06 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  We’ll trade with ya...We have Alabama and Mississippi State next year, and of course on the road.

Ya that's brutal. No thanks. All we have is Texas AM & Baylor
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