(10-31-2017 06:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Notre Dame # 3. Lmao. Please please please pair them against Bama again.

The only school that can compete with Bama this year is...

...UCF!

And I'm not really kidding...

You might not be kidding but you are delusional if you think UCF would be undefeated playing a P5 schedule.

(10-31-2017 10:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Notre Dame # 3. Lmao. Please please please pair them against Bama again.

The only school that can compete with Bama this year is...

...UCF!

And I'm not really kidding...

You might not be kidding but you are delusional if you think UCF would be undefeated playing a P5 schedule.

You're joking, right? You think UCF couldn't handle the schedule Alabama has played up to now? Have you actually LOOKED at it?

(10-31-2017 09:55 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 09:41 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 09:01 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:40 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:19 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  I actually have a farm and bet it wouldn't be close. Lol

That game would be close. UCF is really good. That's one of those games I would bet $500 on the underdog in Vegas and get like $3000 back.

Come on man. As much as I like the teams in this coference no team is in the same league as Alabama or Georgia.

Georgia I agree but Alabama is not the same Alabama we are used to seeing, at least so far this year.

So far this year they have played the weakest part of the SEC they could have possibly played. Look who they have played at home in the SEC (Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Arkansas, and Tennessee).

Those 4 bottom feeder (this year so far) teams have won a grand total of 2 wins in the conference and lost 18 games. That's a pathetic portion of SEC schedule so far. Obviously many of the better SEC teams would beat those same teams as well.

The one and only road game that Alabama has played this year was at A&M. They won but didn't blow them out hanging on in a late comeback attempt by A&M that fell short 27 to 19.

The only other game 'Bama played away from their home field was a neutral field game against a 5 loss, last place ACC Atlantic division, overrated FSU team.

It's easy to see why 'Bama wasn't ahead of a much tougher schedule Georgia team. I suspect that they are not much ahead of ND in that committees eyes, even with the one loss ND has.

Lol and what's their average score again against that competition

I'm not sure if scores really matter. If they did, then we can say that CSU (@ Alabama) is better than all the 4 bottom feeder SEC teams I mentioned since they kept the score closer than those teams. I guess G4 is better than bottom feeder SEC.

(10-31-2017 10:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Notre Dame # 3. Lmao. Please please please pair them against Bama again.

The only school that can compete with Bama this year is...

...UCF!

And I'm not really kidding...

You might not be kidding but you are delusional if you think UCF would be undefeated playing a P5 schedule.

I repeat, 'Bama hasn't played a P5 schedule (yet) this year. They played all the bottom feeders of the SEC, except for a middling A&M team. You tell me who UCF would lose to in that schedule. I bet you haven't even looked at their weak schedule. Does it get much tougher 3 of the next 4 games? Absolutely! If they win all those games, than I can agree with you but up to this point of the season, no way. No one is saying that UCF is better then 'Bama. We are saying that 'Bama hasn't played an impressive schedule, period.

(10-31-2017 09:50 PM)UHRedcat96 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 09:01 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:40 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:19 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:16 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I would bet the farm on Bama

I actually have a farm and bet it wouldn't be close. Lol

That game would be close. UCF is really good. That's one of those games I would bet $500 on the underdog in Vegas and get like $3000 back.

Come on man. As much as I like the teams in this coference no team is in the same league as Alabama or Georgia.

GEORGIA WILL CHOKE!
It's and annual CFB tradition.

I won't be surprised if uga loses to auburn. Bama will destroy them.

(10-31-2017 10:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Notre Dame # 3. Lmao. Please please please pair them against Bama again.

The only school that can compete with Bama this year is...

...UCF!

And I'm not really kidding...

You might not be kidding but you are delusional if you think UCF would be undefeated playing a P5 schedule.

If you mean they would be undefeated in the big 10 or SEC I agree. I can garundamtee you I could make acc, big12 and pac schedules where they would be undefeated

(10-31-2017 10:52 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 10:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Notre Dame # 3. Lmao. Please please please pair them against Bama again.

The only school that can compete with Bama this year is...

...UCF!

And I'm not really kidding...

You might not be kidding but you are delusional if you think UCF would be undefeated playing a P5 schedule.

If you mean they would be undefeated in the big 10 or SEC I agree. I can garundamtee you I could make acc, big12 and pac schedules where they would be undefeated

The ACC has 1.5 teams in the top 4...and throw in several others that could beat them...yeah they aren't going undefeated

(10-31-2017 11:30 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 10:52 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 10:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Notre Dame # 3. Lmao. Please please please pair them against Bama again.

The only school that can compete with Bama this year is...

...UCF!

And I'm not really kidding...

You might not be kidding but you are delusional if you think UCF would be undefeated playing a P5 schedule.

If you mean they would be undefeated in the big 10 or SEC I agree. I can garundamtee you I could make acc, big12 and pac schedules where they would be undefeated

The ACC has 1.5 teams in the top 4...and throw in several others that could beat them...yeah they aren't going undefeated

Yeah, neither is Clemson, but look at the disparity.

(10-31-2017 11:30 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 10:52 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 10:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Notre Dame # 3. Lmao. Please please please pair them against Bama again.

The only school that can compete with Bama this year is...

...UCF!

And I'm not really kidding...

You might not be kidding but you are delusional if you think UCF would be undefeated playing a P5 schedule.

If you mean they would be undefeated in the big 10 or SEC I agree. I can garundamtee you I could make acc, big12 and pac schedules where they would be undefeated

The ACC has 1.5 teams in the top 4...and throw in several others that could beat them...yeah they aren't going undefeated

I believe UCF plays at least as well as Middle Tennessee State. So yeah, I could see it happening.

I have no objections with either ranking. On the road against SMU, home against what *should be a 9-1 USF team, and what should be a 10-1 Memphis team in the AAC Champ game will give us plenty of opportunities to move up a bit in the CFP polls. Attrition from other teams will also play a factor, should we manage to go undefeated - which is obviously no easy task, dare I say unlikely?

(10-31-2017 10:34 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  No one is saying that UCF is better then 'Bama. We are saying that 'Bama hasn't played an impressive schedule, period.

Sagarin says Alabama has played the #55 schedule so far - yes, pretty soft for them. But UCF's schedule is #99, far worse, but you don't seem to discount UCF's wins because of a very soft schedule. What gives?

(11-01-2017 07:45 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 10:34 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  No one is saying that UCF is better then 'Bama. We are saying that 'Bama hasn't played an impressive schedule, period.

Sagarin says Alabama has played the #55 schedule so far - yes, pretty soft for them. But UCF's schedule is #99, far worse, but you don't seem to discount UCF's wins because of a very soft schedule. What gives?

Well, because UCF is in the AAC of course. If USF wins out, they will get the Access Bowl, regardless of the fact that they don't have a single quality win to date. Why do you question such things?

I thought we should have been up a few spots like #15, especially over USC (lost to two ranked schools). Apparently all that matters is beating ranked teams. Miami at #10 is a joke. #9 Wisconsin is a joke too. The rest of it I can agree with.

(11-01-2017 07:45 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 10:34 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  No one is saying that UCF is better then 'Bama. We are saying that 'Bama hasn't played an impressive schedule, period.

Sagarin says Alabama has played the #55 schedule so far - yes, pretty soft for them. But UCF's schedule is #99, far worse, but you don't seem to discount UCF's wins because of a very soft schedule. What gives?

This out of context response was part of several responses from several posters. What brought my ire was someone posting that UCF, top AAC team currently, would get blown out by 'Bama and Georgia because they aren't in the same class.

That may or may not be true but based on how 'Bama has performed, and who they have played this year, compared to UCF schedule and performance, that is not a given that 'Bama would blow out UCF.

Looking at the schedules and the so-called SOS for teams, it's not indicative and mathematically impossible to calculate when one team has just played Austin Peay and only played 7 games. The skewing of that game makes the standard deviation much bigger then Alabama's SD who have yet to play their SOS outlier Mercer in a few weeks.

I suspect that UCF's SOS would be much closer to 'Bama's when you take out the outlier Austin Peay. Had UCF instead played Tennessee (0 and 5 in SEC) and 'Bama played Austin Peay (or Mercer who they play in a few weeks) their last games, I suspect that the SOS might have been reversed. Both teams would beat either of those opponents.

Go take a look at the Sagarin ratings for the AAC East teams UCF is forced to play. Its a strength of schedule killer and places a hard ceiling on UCFs ranking during the regular season IMO. Its just hard to move up much when you have so many games against so many really bad teams.

(11-01-2017 08:49 AM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  I thought we should have been up a few spots like #15, especially over USC (lost to two ranked schools). Apparently all that matters is beating ranked teams. Miami at #10 is a joke. #9 Wisconsin is a joke too. The rest of it I can agree with.

If undefeated ACC and Big10 teams are getting shut-out, what's the point? No hope for AAC to ever make it.

Honestly, anything can happen in a single game scenario or even a 2 game deal like the playoffs. The funny part about this though is there isn't 1 team in this conference that would be in the chase for any NY6 if they were in a P5 conference.

It's cool beating 1 or 2 P5 teams here and there but im not delusional or fake enough to think that if Memphis were in the SEC we'd be 7-1. As bad as Florida looks in the SEC they wouldn't be a 3 win team in the AAC... Neither would Tennessee.

Playing a week to week that was like this.

1. @ #14 Auburn
2. Ole Miss
3. #16 Mississippi State
4. #2 Alabama
5. @ #19 LSU
6. @ Vanderbilt
7. Missouri (through them in for an equal matchup)
8. @ Texas A&M

I see 2 wins, maybe 3. Schedule a few easy OOC and a winnable P5 game and I'm still looking at 6-7 wins tops. Same would go for any good team outside the P5.

Dreams are nice but some of these comments are hilariously insane.

There are programs like UCF, USF, Memphis, Houston and so on that given a few years in a P5 conference would compete better, but certainly not with any current rosters. Not enough overall talent or depth.

Also stats are skewed. Would Memphis score 40 ppg in the SEC? No we wouldn't lol. These are some of the reasons why Aresco's P6 push is so important. Yes, everyone laughs but if it leads to 8-10 million per season it'll have worked.

Better salaries for coaches, more overall resources, better facilities etc.. Once we get to a point that coming to UCF or Memphis or Houston is ideal for 15-20 higher rated/top recruits over P5 programs instead of 4-5 we'll be in business. Just have to keep pushing and winning the games in front of us.

(11-01-2017 09:19 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Go take a look at the Sagarin ratings for the AAC East teams UCF is forced to play. Its a strength of schedule killer and places a hard ceiling on UCFs ranking during the regular season IMO. Its just hard to move up much when you have so many games against so many really bad teams.

I wish the AAC would take a look at the brilliant way that the SEC schedules. It would make a difference in perception and perhaps more important the polls and CFP rankings. The SEC does this every year. They finish with the traditional Florida/FSU, Georgia/Georgia Tech, Clemson/USC, which gives the voters a positive perception of the conference after playing junk the previous 3 weeks.

Now that the CFP rankings have come out lets compare the next three week of scheduling for the AAC versus the SEC.

The AAC plays two OOC games in the next three weeks, Navy at ND and BC at UCONN. Certainly one of the two is high quality opponent.

Now lets look at the SEC. Virtually every team plays a weak, or some team that they should beat. I'll just list the opponents because it really doesn't matter who plays them much.

Week 10 --> UMASS, Coastal Carolina, and Western Kentucky
Week 11 --> Louisiana, New Mexico
Week 12 --> Wofford, UAB, Mercer, La-Monroe

Not much of a challenge for the SEC OOC for the next 3 weeks. The SOS certainly will be hurt, but the polls and the CFP rankings are already ingrained into voters minds at this point, so the SOS hit is minimal. The AAC weak part of their OOC schedule is generally early, hurting their Saragin ratings, as well as other rankings.

I think it is a brilliant strategy for the SEC and I believe it's done purposely that way!

(10-31-2017 06:39 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 06:32 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  1) Georgia

2) Alabama

3) Notre Dame

4) Clemson

5) Oklahoma

6) Ohio State

7) Penn State

8) TCU

9) Wisconsin

10) Miami

So glad they put Georgia first. They deserve it. Bet Bama fans are fuming cause Clemson is a hard matchup for them.
Plus I wanna hear my bandwagon cowworkers fans of the tide whine tomorrow.

No problem for Bama they will most likely beat Goergia and go to NO.1

(11-01-2017 09:02 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  I suspect that UCF's SOS would be much closer to 'Bama's when you take out the outlier Austin Peay. Had UCF instead played Tennessee (0 and 5 in SEC) and 'Bama played Austin Peay (or Mercer who they play in a few weeks) their last games, I suspect that the SOS might have been reversed. Both teams would beat either of those opponents.

If you are worried about the strength of Alabama's schedule, don't, it gets much harder: Of the their four remaining regular season games, they play three teams that are currently ranked #14, #16, and #19 in the CFP rankings, and then they have the SEC title game, probably against Georgia.

So rest easy, we'll find out soon enough if Alabama is a Paper Elephant or not. Based on past history, I bet not.

The same isn't necessarily true of UCF, who currently isn't scheduled to play any teams in the CFP rankings, only a possible game with #23 Memphis in the AAC title game.