(08-15-2014 04:56 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:49 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:48 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Don't Rush to judgment so say the liberals, the media, and the race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson, but it's completely OK to convict the cop involved in this before any facts are known.

Eyewitness said cop ran after unarmed man shooting at him. Then killed him with his arms up.

Arrests should be made, then sort it out.

The only eyewitness to give any information the day of the shooting was Brown's "Partner in Crime" since then one other person came forward repeating much of what has been reported by the media. That second witness needs to be verified by having them describe in detail the scene, the position of the cop car relative to the building, the place where the first shot was fired, and the place where the fatal shots were fired. When a witness comes forward days later in a case like this it gives the appearance they may be repeating news reports v. actually being there.

Don't want to beleive the eyewitnesses?

(08-15-2014 04:55 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:49 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:48 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Don't Rush to judgment so say the liberals, the media, and the race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson, but it's completely OK to convict the cop involved in this before any facts are known.

Eyewitness said cop ran after unarmed man shooting at him. Then killed him with his arms up.

Arrests should be made, then sort it out.

Wasn't one of the two so-called eye witnesses also a suspect in the robbery investigation? I would bet money that the other one was a friend. But regardless, their stories just don't make sense to me. Nonetheless, we should wait for the investigation to complete. They will still have to re-interview people once the physical evidence comes back and that's usually where stories get interesting.

Did you question the witnesses' validity in the Zimmerman case?

Excellent question.

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(08-15-2014 05:46 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 05:40 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 05:24 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 05:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Lol. Are you serious? Name one.

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Ask anyone with a law degree and litigation experience (civil or criminal) that question. People lie ALL THE TIME. And if you do criminal defense, many times your own client will lie to your face.

Not for a complete stranger. I don't buy it.

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In that case, I have some property to sell you.

Often it's not even that complicated. Sometimes well-meaning people are just wrong.

Things happens fast. Eye witnesses are wrong all the time.

Eye witness testimony is almost never accurate. This is per the FBI.

(08-15-2014 06:40 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Eye witness testimony is almost never accurate. This is per the FBI.

Yes but not because they are lying.

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Judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Mike Brown was questioned and arrested and consequently shot due to his actions.

Just like these rioters,....the cops are out in force due to their looting and behavior, not because of the color of their skin.

I would say that these "eye witnesses are a little biased due to race and not the content of the police officers' character. He was attacked by a 6'4" 295 lb moron. Not a child a savage!

(08-15-2014 06:40 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Eye witness testimony is almost never accurate. This is per the FBI.

So the Zimmerman eyewitnesses weren't accurate?

I don't know of they were or not. Just stating the fact that according to the FBI it's not accurate.


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(08-15-2014 07:08 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 06:40 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Eye witness testimony is almost never accurate. This is per the FBI.

So the Zimmerman eyewitnesses weren't accurate?

What Zimmerman eyewitnesses?

(08-15-2014 05:40 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 05:24 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 05:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Lol. Are you serious? Name one.

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Ask anyone with a law degree and litigation experience (civil or criminal) that question. People lie ALL THE TIME. And if you do criminal defense, many times your own client will lie to your face.

Not for a complete stranger. I don't buy it.

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Its an us vs them mentality. He may have been a stranger, but so was the cop. And if wat everyone is saying about the relationship between the Ferguson police and the black community, it wouldnt surprise me if what the witnesses saw is what they wanted to see.

Then again the heavy handness we saw of the police against the protesters may mean there is a department wide problem on how to engage in people. My brother is a cop and got into a fight with an unarmed suspect, he had already called in back up before the fight started, and once they showed up they tasered the guy, the way hes been trained the thought of shooting that guy wasnt his first instinct.

(08-15-2014 08:21 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 05:40 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 05:24 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 05:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Lol. Are you serious? Name one.

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Ask anyone with a law degree and litigation experience (civil or criminal) that question. People lie ALL THE TIME. And if you do criminal defense, many times your own client will lie to your face.

Not for a complete stranger. I don't buy it.

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Its an us vs them mentality. He may have been a stranger, but so was the cop. And if wat everyone is saying about the relationship between the Ferguson police and the black community, it wouldnt surprise me if what the witnesses saw is what they wanted to see.

Then again the heavy handness we saw of the police against the protesters may mean there is a department wide problem on how to engage in people. My brother is a cop and got into a fight with an unarmed suspect, he had already called in back up before the fight started, and once they showed up they tasered the guy, the way hes been trained the thought of shooting that guy wasnt his first instinct.

Good for him.

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A taser can be OK in some situations, but if the perp is going for your gun
that is not a normal thing to have time to do.

If someone goes for your gun? Why wouldn't it be wise tase him?

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Not at all. The prudent action for the Officer would be to secure his weapon and shoot the person attacking him and threatening his life.

Fit you aren't this idiotic are you?

You were beat up often as a small framed Mexican kid weren't you?

I'm saying if you are struggling with him with one hand and you have a free hand to get the taser, why not use it?

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The animal weighed 295 pounds and 6'4". Now if the criminal that robbed the store were of a "slighter build", but still. You are ridiculous with your Holier than Though judging.

I wasn't talking about this specific case. I was talking in general.

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Seems like you have it all figured out and a school teacher knows life and death situations better than a police officer. Congrats Fit!