He fit the description.

(08-15-2014 04:22 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:00 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  So if we're putting the pieces together, this guy robbed a store and then walked down the middle of the street blocking traffic.

Do these actions deserve a death penalty? No.

But ultimately, he chose a path of criminality that includes a high risk of things ending badly for him. If he paid for a few cigars and walked along a sidewalk, he'd be alive today.

It's too bad he died, yes. But forget "vigils" and "memorials." Save those for cancer victims, abducted girls, etc.

So who's fault is it he is dead?

Undetermined until we find out exactly what went on in/near the cop car. And we may never know the truth.

But my point is that if you choose a more civil "good citizen" lifestyle (don't strong-arm rob convenience stores, don't roam the middle of streets blocking traffic), your chances of avoiding bad situations increases greatly.

He can't even use the "I stole food and pushed around the old clerk because we're dirt poor and I'm desperate" excuse. I mean... cigars?

Fair point. I agree. Everyone makes mistakes though. They say he made good grades and all.

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Don't Rush to judgment so say the liberals, the media, and the race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson, but it's completely OK to convict the cop involved in this before any facts are known.

(08-15-2014 09:45 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Can't be. He's a nice young man about to start college.

Gun was used to rob store. Suspect was unarmed.

(08-15-2014 02:05 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  What an interesting thought experiment though. Think if the inner city youths in question here were loaded up like Bundy's gang?????? Why didn't they have the loaded APC's roll up on the cattlemen crusaders for Amurica'.


WOW....... that right there is a scary thought. Our country is being torn apart at the seams by competing ideologies. I vividly remember the one photo of Cletus with the high powered sniper rifle training his sights on the ATF agents.

why do you say "inner city"?

Fergusen is a suburb.

saying black is not P C ?

(08-15-2014 04:48 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Don't Rush to judgment so say the liberals, the media, and the race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson, but it's completely OK to convict the cop involved in this before any facts are known.

Eyewitness said cop ran after unarmed man shooting at him. Then killed him with his arms up.

Arrests should be made, then sort it out.

(08-15-2014 04:48 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 09:45 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Can't be. He's a nice young man about to start college.

Gun was used to rob store. Suspect was unarmed.

And his buddy?

(08-15-2014 01:32 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 01:31 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 01:16 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I for one am sick and tired of this notion sweeping our country that sides with criminality. You see it with liberals and libertarians. Quick to blame the police. Quick to give the criminal a pass.

Oh, please.

And what do you call people who mindlessly defend out-of-control cops?

Yeah, how dare those cops try and kill a guy suspected of robbing a convenience store! Out of control, I tell you.

FIFY

(08-15-2014 04:45 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:35 PM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  According to the chief of police the cop who shot him had no idea he was the suspect in the robbery and you are saying this was because of the robbery? I am curious how you made that connection.

The chief said that the robbery was not the reason for the initial contact. He did not speak as to what the officer knew. That is further stated in the WaPo.

Fair enough, still quite a leap to say that he would still be alive if it weren't for the robbery.

(08-15-2014 04:50 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:48 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 09:45 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Can't be. He's a nice young man about to start college.

Gun was used to rob store. Suspect was unarmed.

And his buddy?

Am I my brother's keeper?

(08-15-2014 04:49 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:48 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Don't Rush to judgment so say the liberals, the media, and the race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson, but it's completely OK to convict the cop involved in this before any facts are known.

Eyewitness said cop ran after unarmed man shooting at him. Then killed him with his arms up.

Arrests should be made, then sort it out.

Wasn't one of the two so-called eye witnesses also a suspect in the robbery investigation? I would bet money that the other one was a friend. But regardless, their stories just don't make sense to me. Nonetheless, we should wait for the investigation to complete. They will still have to re-interview people once the physical evidence comes back and that's usually where stories get interesting.

(08-15-2014 04:49 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:48 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Don't Rush to judgment so say the liberals, the media, and the race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson, but it's completely OK to convict the cop involved in this before any facts are known.

Eyewitness said cop ran after unarmed man shooting at him. Then killed him with his arms up.

Arrests should be made, then sort it out.

The only eyewitness to give any information the day of the shooting was Brown's "Partner in Crime" since then one other person came forward repeating much of what has been reported by the media. That second witness needs to be verified by having them describe in detail the scene, the position of the cop car relative to the building, the place where the first shot was fired, and the place where the fatal shots were fired. When a witness comes forward days later in a case like this it gives the appearance they may be repeating news reports v. actually being there.

(08-15-2014 04:55 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:49 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:48 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Don't Rush to judgment so say the liberals, the media, and the race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson, but it's completely OK to convict the cop involved in this before any facts are known.

Eyewitness said cop ran after unarmed man shooting at him. Then killed him with his arms up.

Arrests should be made, then sort it out.

Wasn't one of the two so-called eye witnesses also a suspect in the robbery investigation? I would bet money that the other one was a friend. But regardless, their stories just don't make sense to me. Nonetheless, we should wait for the investigation to complete. They will still have to re-interview people once the physical evidence comes back and that's usually where stories get interesting.

The second witness came forward a few days after the shooting, and AFTER the first witness' account had been reported on the news about 1,000 times.

(08-15-2014 04:54 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:50 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:48 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 09:45 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Can't be. He's a nice young man about to start college.

Gun was used to rob store. Suspect was unarmed.

And his buddy?

Am I my brother's keeper?

Ask Bonnie and Clyde.

(08-15-2014 04:57 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:55 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:49 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:48 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Don't Rush to judgment so say the liberals, the media, and the race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson, but it's completely OK to convict the cop involved in this before any facts are known.

Eyewitness said cop ran after unarmed man shooting at him. Then killed him with his arms up.

Arrests should be made, then sort it out.

Wasn't one of the two so-called eye witnesses also a suspect in the robbery investigation? I would bet money that the other one was a friend. But regardless, their stories just don't make sense to me. Nonetheless, we should wait for the investigation to complete. They will still have to re-interview people once the physical evidence comes back and that's usually where stories get interesting.

The second witness came forward a few days after the shooting, and AFTER the first witness' account had been reported on the news about 1,000 times.

Why would someone who didn't know Mike Brown pretend that they saw what happened? That doesn't make sense.

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(08-15-2014 05:10 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:57 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:55 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:49 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 04:48 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Don't Rush to judgment so say the liberals, the media, and the race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson, but it's completely OK to convict the cop involved in this before any facts are known.

Eyewitness said cop ran after unarmed man shooting at him. Then killed him with his arms up.

Arrests should be made, then sort it out.

Wasn't one of the two so-called eye witnesses also a suspect in the robbery investigation? I would bet money that the other one was a friend. But regardless, their stories just don't make sense to me. Nonetheless, we should wait for the investigation to complete. They will still have to re-interview people once the physical evidence comes back and that's usually where stories get interesting.

The second witness came forward a few days after the shooting, and AFTER the first witness' account had been reported on the news about 1,000 times.

Why would someone who didn't know Mike Brown pretend that they saw what happened? That doesn't make sense.

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Exactly!!!! No one has ever gave a false account to get their 15 minutes of fame. No one has ever gave a false account to become a hero in their community. No one has ever gave a false account because they thought the accused was guilty.


Why would anyone question this witness' testimony cause no one ever lies for personal gain.

Lol. Are you serious? Name one.

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(08-15-2014 05:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Lol. Are you serious? Name one.

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Ask anyone with a law degree and litigation experience (civil or criminal) that question. People lie ALL THE TIME. And if you do criminal defense, many times your own client will lie to your face.

(08-15-2014 05:24 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 05:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Lol. Are you serious? Name one.

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Ask anyone with a law degree and litigation experience (civil or criminal) that question. People lie ALL THE TIME. And if you do criminal defense, many times your own client will lie to your face.

Not for a complete stranger. I don't buy it.

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(08-15-2014 05:40 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 05:24 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 05:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Lol. Are you serious? Name one.

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Ask anyone with a law degree and litigation experience (civil or criminal) that question. People lie ALL THE TIME. And if you do criminal defense, many times your own client will lie to your face.

Not for a complete stranger. I don't buy it.

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In that case, I have some property to sell you.