Go ahead and have the lawyers send over the SEC member packet and we will get those turned around right away! Celebration at the Fick on us!
Amen to that. It's mind boggling how no one factors us in, regarding expansions, but damn do I love this thread. where else on these forums can you find 57 pages, 561 posts. I can atleast appreciate the love given here. Solidarity my fellow Pirates!
Amen Starfox!
ECU first team to offer full COA for Athletes in the American Conference to stay competitive with the SEC, ACC Candy Asses, Texas 12, Michigan 10, and the Surfer 12. We are ready SEC! Make it happen!
http://www.ecupirates.com/genrel/041515aaa.html
The NC and the Tidewater area of VA would be a recruiting and "regular" exposure market for the SEC, B12, and B10 by adding ECU. The question is does the B12 or SEC move first? ECU's natural fit is the SEC.
Honestly, i wouldnt take b12 but wait out for sec. Dont flirt while we are being courted in my eyes because sec is where we need to be and they need us too. Sort of like keep saving for the house you really want because the other one the commute to work is longer and the neighborhood is depreciating .
Yeah....It is exactly like that
Alright SEC, Here is your golden opportunity.
http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/ECU-T...18931.html
Give us the reason to expand to 70k+, and we will. Pirate Nation will make this happen and fill it.
Those stadium apartments would fly up, and hell. I may even move back to Greenville 0.0 to become more of a part of this.
This is going to be one exciting time this next year.
GO PIRATES!
(04-23-2015 07:02 PM)Starfox207 Wrote: [ -> ]Alright SEC, Here is your golden opportunity.
http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/ECU-T...18931.html
Give us the reason to expand to 70k+, and we will. Pirate Nation will make this happen and fill it.
Those stadium apartments would fly up, and hell. I may even move back to Greenville 0.0 to become more of a part of this.
This is going to be one exciting time this next year.
GO PIRATES!
73,000 stadium capacity and 15,000 tickets for visiting schools are within your reach and would meet SEC standards. 41% subsidy for your athletics is way off the beam for the SEC. Get that number down to 10% and now we are talking doable. Your total revenue last year was 38,000,000. The average SEC revenue was 99,350,000. Part of that would be made up just by being a conference member. But understand that in the SEC the average price of 1 conference ticket is the mean between $70 on the low end and $80 on the high end so for the sake of argument $75 a piece. In the SEC most of our member schools require a donation of $800 or more for the privilege of buying a season ticket book, and that's on top of the price of the book which is now approaching $800 per book. So just for you and your wife you would lay out $3,200 just for tickets for the season. That doesn't include travel, lodging, fuel, and food. I'm curious, what are your average ticket prices at E.C.U. right now? I'll be pulling for you.
Average ticket price is probably between $45-$70 depending on the game. When you have Temple compared to Tennessee coming to town makes a big difference what you can get for a price of ticket. We do have the Pirate Club now that requires donations for season tickets, parking pass, etc. Bunch of different levels. I would image the average gift is around $800 for season tickets etc. currently. Of course people give a ton more for better seats, club level seats, etc.
To get there though I really think we would need brand ourselves as Carolina University to get into the SEC. Its one thing for the sec to take a school from North Carolina its a complete different thing to take a directional school from NC. By re-branding as Carolina University, we pretty much take the whole region of North and South Carolina in to account and how could the SEC truly be the southern conference with out have the Carolina University in it. Eastern NC culture fits in well with the SEC, so does the recruits, people, and climate. Would be just like adding another LSU or Alabama culture wise. We love tailgating, football, and baseball; and basketball is just for in between.
(04-25-2015 01:18 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: [ -> ]Average ticket price is probably between $45-$70 depending on the game. When you have Temple compared to Tennessee coming to town makes a big difference what you can get for a price of ticket. We do have the Pirate Club now that requires donations for season tickets, parking pass, etc. Bunch of different levels. I would image the average gift is around $800 for season tickets etc. currently. Of course people give a ton more for better seats, club level seats, etc.
To get there though I really think we would need brand ourselves as Carolina University to get into the SEC. Its one thing for the sec to take a school from North Carolina its a complete different thing to take a directional school from NC. By re-branding as Carolina University, we pretty much take the whole region of North and South Carolina in to account and how could the SEC truly be the southern conference with out have the Carolina University in it. Eastern NC culture fits in well with the SEC, so does the recruits, people, and climate. Would be just like adding another LSU or Alabama culture wise. We love tailgating, football, and baseball; and basketball is just for in between.
I see no great problems that would prevent you from meeting requirements with facilities or reducing your subsidized portion of athletics. I'm still mixed on the renaming however. I guess I don't have a problem with it as long as the pirate branding stays.
Seriously? Someone is bringing our Name and Heritage and History into this? Please look into:
University of South Carolina
West Virginia University
East Carolina University
University of North Carolina
Our name is extremely strong, and so is our heritage and history.
Change that, you lose a lot of what we stand for, and what the SEC is.
The SEC Schools Turn UP, and they don't have to change their names, identity, or their uniforms every season. And that is How I see East Carolina for the most part. (Which I believe the rebrand made it even stronger, cleaning house on who we are)
And if someone still has issues with a directional naming scheme, then you have to be against the directional name of the conference. If Anything, We should be SEC South Eastern Carolina.
Now to blow your mind: --The top list are all Flag Ships. Just so happens that the Pirates represent the flag ship school of east Carolina, which is huge and freaking awesome. Sorry SC, We just plundered your east territories.
(04-25-2015 01:18 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: [ -> ]Average ticket price is probably between $45-$70 depending on the game. When you have Temple compared to Tennessee coming to town makes a big difference what you can get for a price of ticket. We do have the Pirate Club now that requires donations for season tickets, parking pass, etc. Bunch of different levels. I would image the average gift is around $800 for season tickets etc. currently. Of course people give a ton more for better seats, club level seats, etc.
To get there though I really think we would need brand ourselves as Carolina University to get into the SEC. Its one thing for the sec to take a school from North Carolina its a complete different thing to take a directional school from NC. By re-branding as Carolina University, we pretty much take the whole region of North and South Carolina in to account and how could the SEC truly be the southern conference with out have the Carolina University in it. Eastern NC culture fits in well with the SEC, so does the recruits, people, and climate. Would be just like adding another LSU or Alabama culture wise. We love tailgating, football, and baseball; and basketball is just for in between.
The brand is "East Carolina". No need to change that, but if we did try to change it, no way does the UNC system let us get away with calling ourselves "Carolina" university. UNC @ Greenville maybe, because from my understanding that's what they wanted anyway, but then we simply sound like another offshoot of UNC.
We just need to continue to build the fanbase, win in and out of conference, improve infrastructure and elevate our academic profile.
I'm sure the SEC leadership is smart and have done their homework when it comes to ECU as well as many other schools. If they ever expand beyond 14 (without raiding another contract conference), I'd say our chances are just as good as any other school.
I hope the P5 stays the P5 and does not become the P4 made up of 16 teams per conference.
SEC could add 2, P12 could add 4, B10 could add 2, ACC could add 2. Which means, the B12 would get picked apart (10 teams exactly) leaving the P4 and existing G5. B12 goes away. Any of our teams hoping for a promotion should hope the new P4 go to 18 teams models or we better get used to our American home for the long haul.
Something tells me the B12 would be a temporary promotion anyway until it gets picked apart just like the Big East did.
(06-05-2013 10:55 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote: [ -> ]You guys are honestly being disrespectful. I get it, there's a snowball's chance in hell of ECU getting into the SEC in the near future. But to relegate us to a conference with a bunch of Sunbelt schools and rejects right after we just fought like hell to get out of CUSA is offensive and degrading.
When you come from poor small states, like many SEC schools do, then being a flagship school isn't as big of a deal. NC is a top 10 state in both population and economic diversity. If Florida can have 3 schools with a high level of football pedigree/history then NC can have one. Historically, NC State and UNC can't really even separate themselves from ECU in terms of football prowess despite their advantages. If ECU were in the SEC, ECU would dominate the state. I'm sure that you guys would add Wyoming or North Dakota if they were closer.
ECU may not have the history that most SEC schools do but can you guys really not see that ECU has way more upside than the schools that you guys apparently think we should be in a conference with. We average more in attendance than 5 of those schools combined and our stadium will be at over 60,000 capacity by 2016. We are the only football 1st school in our state. Our game day atmosphere is unparalleled and we have the best BBQ! We have a long history of rising up and beating the nations elite every few years. & we have more in common with other SEC schools than you guys would like to admit. A large, tier 1, football 1st, State school, in a relatively small southern town, with a massive, loyal and passionate fan base, where football is religion.
Go ahead and tell us that we don't belong with you guys but at least let us dwell with our quasi-rejects in the AAC, instead of grouping us with mostly complete rejects and schools that are just coming up to Division 1. We have a winning record against all AAC teams except for one so we should be at the top of that conference moving forward and our aim is for bigger and better things. Our administration and fans will not stop in their tireless mission to ensure that ECU is one day synonymous w/ big time football and we will accomplish it with or without the all mighty SEC! Bank on it fellas!
Speaking as one of the rejects you spoke of, I think Georgia Southern will pass you guys. GS probably has a tougher ladder to climb but the university is one of the fastest growing schools in the country and the football program won its conference in its first year FBS going undefeated, in the reject conference. Winning is a culture there. Winning has its way of creating good things. If Georgia Southern keeps winning, in another 10 years, I think you will see people saying Georgia Southern should be in a P5 conference. You cant ignore winning. I will be interested in seeing if ECU can continue to win the way they have the last 2 seasons. If you guys can continue that kind of pace, good things will happen, but that question still remains unanswered.
(05-26-2015 02:57 PM)eagle9098 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-05-2013 10:55 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote: [ -> ]You guys are honestly being disrespectful. I get it, there's a snowball's chance in hell of ECU getting into the SEC in the near future. But to relegate us to a conference with a bunch of Sunbelt schools and rejects right after we just fought like hell to get out of CUSA is offensive and degrading.
When you come from poor small states, like many SEC schools do, then being a flagship school isn't as big of a deal. NC is a top 10 state in both population and economic diversity. If Florida can have 3 schools with a high level of football pedigree/history then NC can have one. Historically, NC State and UNC can't really even separate themselves from ECU in terms of football prowess despite their advantages. If ECU were in the SEC, ECU would dominate the state. I'm sure that you guys would add Wyoming or North Dakota if they were closer.
ECU may not have the history that most SEC schools do but can you guys really not see that ECU has way more upside than the schools that you guys apparently think we should be in a conference with. We average more in attendance than 5 of those schools combined and our stadium will be at over 60,000 capacity by 2016. We are the only football 1st school in our state. Our game day atmosphere is unparalleled and we have the best BBQ! We have a long history of rising up and beating the nations elite every few years. & we have more in common with other SEC schools than you guys would like to admit. A large, tier 1, football 1st, State school, in a relatively small southern town, with a massive, loyal and passionate fan base, where football is religion.
Go ahead and tell us that we don't belong with you guys but at least let us dwell with our quasi-rejects in the AAC, instead of grouping us with mostly complete rejects and schools that are just coming up to Division 1. We have a winning record against all AAC teams except for one so we should be at the top of that conference moving forward and our aim is for bigger and better things. Our administration and fans will not stop in their tireless mission to ensure that ECU is one day synonymous w/ big time football and we will accomplish it with or without the all mighty SEC! Bank on it fellas!
Speaking as one of the rejects you spoke of, I think Georgia Southern will pass you guys. GS probably has a tougher ladder to climb but the university is one of the fastest growing schools in the country and the football program won its conference in its first year FBS going undefeated, in the reject conference. Winning is a culture there. Winning has its way of creating good things. If Georgia Southern keeps winning, in another 10 years, I think you will see people saying Georgia Southern should be in a P5 conference. You cant ignore winning. I will be interested in seeing if ECU can continue to win the way they have the last 2 seasons. If you guys can continue that kind of pace, good things will happen, but that question still remains unanswered.
You just made a statement out of nowhere East Carolina has an alumni head coach who has proven he can win. We have once again a very talented team this year. Do not question East Carolina and its ability to win with only playing FBS one year. I have been a big ga southern fan until your post just then.
(05-26-2015 05:24 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: [ -> ] (05-26-2015 02:57 PM)eagle9098 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-05-2013 10:55 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote: [ -> ]You guys are honestly being disrespectful. I get it, there's a snowball's chance in hell of ECU getting into the SEC in the near future. But to relegate us to a conference with a bunch of Sunbelt schools and rejects right after we just fought like hell to get out of CUSA is offensive and degrading.
When you come from poor small states, like many SEC schools do, then being a flagship school isn't as big of a deal. NC is a top 10 state in both population and economic diversity. If Florida can have 3 schools with a high level of football pedigree/history then NC can have one. Historically, NC State and UNC can't really even separate themselves from ECU in terms of football prowess despite their advantages. If ECU were in the SEC, ECU would dominate the state. I'm sure that you guys would add Wyoming or North Dakota if they were closer.
ECU may not have the history that most SEC schools do but can you guys really not see that ECU has way more upside than the schools that you guys apparently think we should be in a conference with. We average more in attendance than 5 of those schools combined and our stadium will be at over 60,000 capacity by 2016. We are the only football 1st school in our state. Our game day atmosphere is unparalleled and we have the best BBQ! We have a long history of rising up and beating the nations elite every few years. & we have more in common with other SEC schools than you guys would like to admit. A large, tier 1, football 1st, State school, in a relatively small southern town, with a massive, loyal and passionate fan base, where football is religion.
Go ahead and tell us that we don't belong with you guys but at least let us dwell with our quasi-rejects in the AAC, instead of grouping us with mostly complete rejects and schools that are just coming up to Division 1. We have a winning record against all AAC teams except for one so we should be at the top of that conference moving forward and our aim is for bigger and better things. Our administration and fans will not stop in their tireless mission to ensure that ECU is one day synonymous w/ big time football and we will accomplish it with or without the all mighty SEC! Bank on it fellas!
Speaking as one of the rejects you spoke of, I think Georgia Southern will pass you guys. GS probably has a tougher ladder to climb but the university is one of the fastest growing schools in the country and the football program won its conference in its first year FBS going undefeated, in the reject conference. Winning is a culture there. Winning has its way of creating good things. If Georgia Southern keeps winning, in another 10 years, I think you will see people saying Georgia Southern should be in a P5 conference. You cant ignore winning. I will be interested in seeing if ECU can continue to win the way they have the last 2 seasons. If you guys can continue that kind of pace, good things will happen, but that question still remains unanswered.
You just made a statement out of nowhere East Carolina has an alumni head coach who has proven he can win. We have once again a very talented team this year. Do not question East Carolina and its ability to win with only playing FBS one year. I have been a big ga southern fan until your post just then.
Man O man are you going to hate GS just because of one guy like me? Hey I pulled for EC last year. I thought you guys had a great team, but you havent been exactly that kind of good over the past 20 years. If EC can continue to win over the next few seasons the way they have the last 2 seasons, there probably will be some folks very interested in EC. Like I said its hard to ignore winning.
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Don't know what is going to happen this summer, but it is going to be a great one for us. May have to go to the B12 and then the SEC. Heck we should play in them all just to say we did.
If we don't get the B 12 in a few I believe we will still be blessed shortly. No reason we would be doing the Huge Stadium Reno.
(04-25-2015 01:18 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: [ -> ]Average ticket price is probably between $45-$70 depending on the game. When you have Temple compared to Tennessee coming to town makes a big difference what you can get for a price of ticket. We do have the Pirate Club now that requires donations for season tickets, parking pass, etc. Bunch of different levels. I would image the average gift is around $800 for season tickets etc. currently. Of course people give a ton more for better seats, club level seats, etc.
To get there though I really think we would need brand ourselves as Carolina University to get into the SEC. Its one thing for the sec to take a school from North Carolina its a complete different thing to take a directional school from NC. By re-branding as Carolina University, we pretty much take the whole region of North and South Carolina in to account and how could the SEC truly be the southern conference with out have the Carolina University in it. Eastern NC culture fits in well with the SEC, so does the recruits, people, and climate. Would be just like adding another LSU or Alabama culture wise. We love tailgating, football, and baseball; and basketball is just for in between.
No! East Carolina is a moniker that fit's just fine in the SEC. Numerous SEC schools reside in rurals areas or small towns away from major metro areas in their state. East Carolina is what it is because of the fight against the UNC system in both academics and athletics, to simple change to Carolina University is a backhanded insult to the men that fought for the prosperity of East Carolina University against long odds.
(05-26-2015 02:57 PM)eagle9098 Wrote: [ -> ]Speaking as one of the rejects you spoke of, I think Georgia Southern will pass you guys. GS probably has a tougher ladder to climb but the university is one of the fastest growing schools in the country and the football program won its conference in its first year FBS going undefeated, in the reject conference. Winning is a culture there. Winning has its way of creating good things. If Georgia Southern keeps winning, in another 10 years, I think you will see people saying Georgia Southern should be in a P5 conference. You cant ignore winning. I will be interested in seeing if ECU can continue to win the way they have the last 2 seasons. If you guys can continue that kind of pace, good things will happen, but that question still remains unanswered.
East Carolina has 6 losing seasons since joining a conference nineteen years ago and just three with less than 5 wins. East Carolina has demonstrated the ability to win at every level they've played over multiple conferences with changing memberships. I think the question has been answered.