(10-01-2014 11:40 AM)YNot Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2014 07:21 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: [ -> ]Welcome to the board YNot. It is not that there is anything wrong with your proposal as so much as finding the right teams to go to 15 or 16 with. So while many posters on here love ECU, the probability of the Pirates getting the SEC Golden Ticket is slim. Adding ECU would get the SEC into NC, but at the expense of academic perception, which is not a justifiable exchange at this point.
That's precisely why I included UNC as an alternative option to ECU. NC State would also be a more than worthwhile candidate.
It's just my perspective that the SEC would be well-advised to go after the North Carolina and Virginia markets. NC has almost 10 million population and the #24 Charlotte and #25 Raleigh-Durham DMAs (1.154 million and 1.135 million TV households, respectively); and Virginia has over 8 million population and access to the #8 Washington, DC DMA (2.4 million TV households). That's a lot of market to be added to the SEC's direct footprint. And much more than any sort of westward expansion would bring.
And the move, ironically, would likely help SEC teams to play each other more frequently.
Ynot, I appreciate what you are saying here, but we have volumes of threads discussing the same things over that last two years. The number of households for Virginia and North Carolina combined is near 19 million, the logistical advantages are obvious, and the other permutations of advantages to such a move are numerous.
Yet here we are 2 years later and we are waiting. Politics, existing contracts, and personalities all remain obstacles to the obvious benefits. That's life.
But I'm glad you are here and posting. Read through some old threads if you want, maybe some new eyes and ideas will refresh the discussions. Thanks, JR
If the Pirates can keep winning in all sports and raise it's academics there is a chance!
15% chance at best.
TCU would have to go out West, West Virginia would have to go ACC and ECU would have to end up SEC with the blessing of the ACC.
15% chance is me being nice.
Pick us up. You know you want to. Cmon. Pirates? PirateS?
How do you not want pirates?
Can you count how many tigers there are in college football?
Count the Number of Pirates in college. you cant beat that.
Want some? Come Get Some. Also, poor gators. We are going to be JACKED!
I wonder if ECU got on the phone with Bowlsby this week? I bet it is about a 99% chance since any school with power conference aspirations should be calling him in hopes the B12 panics and expands by 2 schools.
Any way good luck to Pirate fans in your quest to find a power conference home.
(12-08-2014 07:17 PM)Starfox207 Wrote: [ -> ]Pick us up. You know you want to. Cmon. Pirates? PirateS?
How do you not want pirates?
Can you count how many tigers there are in college football?
Count the Number of Pirates in college. you cant beat that.
Want some? Come Get Some. Also, poor gators. We are going to be JACKED!
Seriously doubt this has any credibility:
Utini @PromiscuousJawa · 13h 13 hours ago
Vanderbilt contacted by B10
SEC sought organizational information from East Carolina today. Expansion related? Trying to confirm.
Confirmed
Would Vanderbilt leave the SEC for the B10? Hearing it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Hearing one major SEC football power is weighing options. Does the SEC HQ being in Birmingham act too favorably towards Alabama? B12 bound?
(12-09-2014 04:12 AM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ] (12-08-2014 07:17 PM)Starfox207 Wrote: [ -> ]Pick us up. You know you want to. Cmon. Pirates? PirateS?
How do you not want pirates?
Can you count how many tigers there are in college football?
Count the Number of Pirates in college. you cant beat that.
Want some? Come Get Some. Also, poor gators. We are going to be JACKED!
Seriously doubt this has any credibility:
Utini @PromiscuousJawa · 13h 13 hours ago
Vanderbilt contacted by B10
SEC sought organizational information from East Carolina today. Expansion related? Trying to confirm.
Confirmed
Would Vanderbilt leave the SEC for the B10? Hearing it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Hearing one major SEC football power is weighing options. Does the SEC HQ being in Birmingham act too favorably towards Alabama? B12 bound?
Murdccu these scenarios are about 3 years old now and if they are unfolding they were a contingency that was worked out should the ACC be dismantled. To make room for more ACC schools the SEC could work with the Big 10 who would want some Southerly expansion. Their contract is up with ESPN in 2016 and negotiations will be forthcoming. Texas wants its own conference. The SEC wants its larger markets for the network. So as the contingency worked duplicated markets might be shed by negotiation of all parties to make the numbers game work.
So what you are reporting is either:
a. Old news about the contingencies finally coming to more public light.
b. The same old message board stuff that is designed to pump up one fan base or another by a troll.
c. The precursor to a much larger move.
My money is on b.
But in case it is c. here were the particulars. Back when the ACC was imperiled by Maryland's move and the networks were trying to make a 4 x 16 work (which btw the recent playoff debacle has brought back into focus the reality of needing to do so) the idea was that Vanderbilt and Virginia Tech could be moved to the Big 10 to make room for Duke, North Carolina, Virginia and possibly another ACC school's move into the SEC. (N.C. State was the presumed 4th school as it met the Triangles demands to stay together and it could be the impetus behind the rumor of a school weighing options to the Big 12). Texas and Oklahoma would be propped up by the additions of Florida State, Louisville, Notre Dame, Clemson, Miami, and Georgia Tech. Pittsburgh could be substituted for a recalcitrant N.D.
The East Carolina contact is pro forma. Let's say under the present conditions that the Big 12 actually added B.Y.U. and Cincinnati (not likely but let's suppose). Such a move would mean that the Big 12 was going to be off the market as far as the Big 10, PAC, and SEC expansion was concerned. It wouldn't preclude the ACC dissolution, but it would certainly impact who might be taken if it occurred. In a world however where the ACC also held firm where would the SEC go to obtain its markets if it couldn't tap another P5 source? In such a scenario having the paperwork previously handled with prospects for such an event gives them the time advantage to obtain those properties before things became a scramble.
In a world of P5 stasis East Carolina, Central Florida, Connecticut, Cincinnati, B.Y.U. and others out West all become the only viable expansion products left. I would think that the SEC would want to at least have ECU, UCF, and possibly Cincinnati prepped just in case. But that doesn't mean that anything is about to happen. But in my opinion a Big 12 expansion out of the G5 is the most hopeful sign an ECU fan could look for.
And by the way, unless it was Arkansas, or one of the Mississippi schools, I can't see anyone leaving the SEC for the Big 12. Arkansas would be returning home and a Mississippi school would be making room for another SEC addition and doing so to get out from under the shadows of Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., and now A&M.
Actually it is not so crazy that the SEC would be wanting to have an in depth look over at ECU right now. As part of the dissolution of The Big 12, if Texas ends up going semi-independent then one more mid-major will have to be brought up.
Of all the mid-majors, ECU has one of the strongest fan base followings and it is located in the one State that the SEC probably wants to get into more than any other at this point. They aren't going to get one of the ACC schools in that State, that is obvious. That leaves ECU. The question becomes complicated in regards to WVU. Does the ACC take them and then allow the SEC to sneak into the State of North Carolina? Perhaps they take in UConn instead and allow WVU to go with the SEC?
Perhaps the SEC doesn't really want WVU? ECU might even be seen as a better choice for the SEC in the long run.
Stick them in a four team division with Florida, Georgia and South Carolina. ECU fits the bill of getting them into North Carolina without strongly shaking that Eastern hierarchy.
I would imagine the SEC would want to know just how quickly they could help ECU grow into The football program in the State of North Carolina. If it happened, I bet ECU would be quickly announced Stadium expansion plans.
I wouldn't dismiss any present day talk about the SEC looking into ECU. They are a gem that needs polishing, special polishing, that really only the SEC could do.
Wow, a thread that started in April 2004 and is still going on…
(12-09-2014 05:51 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2014 04:12 AM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ] (12-08-2014 07:17 PM)Starfox207 Wrote: [ -> ]Pick us up. You know you want to. Cmon. Pirates? PirateS?
How do you not want pirates?
Can you count how many tigers there are in college football?
Count the Number of Pirates in college. you cant beat that.
Want some? Come Get Some. Also, poor gators. We are going to be JACKED!
Seriously doubt this has any credibility:
Utini @PromiscuousJawa · 13h 13 hours ago
Vanderbilt contacted by B10
SEC sought organizational information from East Carolina today. Expansion related? Trying to confirm.
Confirmed
Would Vanderbilt leave the SEC for the B10? Hearing it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Hearing one major SEC football power is weighing options. Does the SEC HQ being in Birmingham act too favorably towards Alabama? B12 bound?
Murdccu these scenarios are about 3 years old now and if they are unfolding they were a contingency that was worked out should the ACC be dismantled. To make room for more ACC schools the SEC could work with the Big 10 who would want some Southerly expansion. Their contract is up with ESPN in 2016 and negotiations will be forthcoming. Texas wants its own conference. The SEC wants its larger markets for the network. So as the contingency worked duplicated markets might be shed by negotiation of all parties to make the numbers game work.
So what you are reporting is either:
a. Old news about the contingencies finally coming to more public light.
b. The same old message board stuff that is designed to pump up one fan base or another by a troll.
c. The precursor to a much larger move.
My money is on b.
But in case it is c. here were the particulars. Back when the ACC was imperiled by Maryland's move and the networks were trying to make a 4 x 16 work (which btw the recent playoff debacle has brought back into focus the reality of needing to do so) the idea was that Vanderbilt and Virginia Tech could be moved to the Big 10 to make room for Duke, North Carolina, Virginia and possibly another ACC school's move into the SEC. (N.C. State was the presumed 4th school as it met the Triangles demands to stay together and it could be the impetus behind the rumor of a school weighing options to the Big 12). Texas and Oklahoma would be propped up by the additions of Florida State, Louisville, Notre Dame, Clemson, Miami, and Georgia Tech. Pittsburgh could be substituted for a recalcitrant N.D.
The East Carolina contact is pro forma. Let's say under the present conditions that the Big 12 actually added B.Y.U. and Cincinnati (not likely but let's suppose). Such a move would mean that the Big 12 was going to be off the market as far as the Big 10, PAC, and SEC expansion was concerned. It wouldn't preclude the ACC dissolution, but it would certainly impact who might be taken if it occurred. In a world however where the ACC also held firm where would the SEC go to obtain its markets if it couldn't tap another P5 source? In such a scenario having the paperwork previously handled with prospects for such an event gives them the time advantage to obtain those properties before things became a scramble.
In a world of P5 stasis East Carolina, Central Florida, Connecticut, Cincinnati, B.Y.U. and others out West all become the only viable expansion products left. I would think that the SEC would want to at least have ECU, UCF, and possibly Cincinnati prepped just in case. But that doesn't mean that anything is about to happen. But in my opinion a Big 12 expansion out of the G5 is the most hopeful sign an ECU fan could look for.
And by the way, unless it was Arkansas, or one of the Mississippi schools, I can't see anyone leaving the SEC for the Big 12. Arkansas would be returning home and a Mississippi school would be making room for another SEC addition and doing so to get out from under the shadows of Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., and now A&M.
What playoff debacle? The committee rightfully rewarded each conference that played a 13th game (CCG) and provided one true champion. The committee should continue to reward uniformity and deny deformity—refusing to risk playing a CCG. As long as the B12 wants to remain different, it should be treated different…..
Regarding the topic (ECU), if the ACC and B12 stay intact, ECU would be a good fit for the SEC. It has a football first mentality, fan base, and the facilities to transition immediately to the SEC. In fact, the SEC should add ECU now because it needs more content for its network, which is the only criticism I have regarding the network's inaugural season. Consequently, the SEC should vote along with the ACC and B12 regarding the CCG selection process. The SEC could experiment with 3 divisions of 5 schools and 1 wild card game that is aired on the SECN. If it’s a success, the SEC could add another G5 school and have 4 divisions of 4 schools with 2 wildcard games that are aired on the SECN. This is how the SEC can keep pace with or even surpass the B10 network….
SEC
North (a blasphemous name for a SEC division—forgive me... lol...)
Central: ECU, Mizzou, Kentucky, Tenn, Vandy
*South: Auburn, Bama, Florida, Georgia, SCAR
West: A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St
*Brutal division....
(02-05-2015 01:58 PM)Underdog Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2014 05:51 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2014 04:12 AM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ] (12-08-2014 07:17 PM)Starfox207 Wrote: [ -> ]Pick us up. You know you want to. Cmon. Pirates? PirateS?
How do you not want pirates?
Can you count how many tigers there are in college football?
Count the Number of Pirates in college. you cant beat that.
Want some? Come Get Some. Also, poor gators. We are going to be JACKED!
Seriously doubt this has any credibility:
Utini @PromiscuousJawa · 13h 13 hours ago
Vanderbilt contacted by B10
SEC sought organizational information from East Carolina today. Expansion related? Trying to confirm.
Confirmed
Would Vanderbilt leave the SEC for the B10? Hearing it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Hearing one major SEC football power is weighing options. Does the SEC HQ being in Birmingham act too favorably towards Alabama? B12 bound?
Murdccu these scenarios are about 3 years old now and if they are unfolding they were a contingency that was worked out should the ACC be dismantled. To make room for more ACC schools the SEC could work with the Big 10 who would want some Southerly expansion. Their contract is up with ESPN in 2016 and negotiations will be forthcoming. Texas wants its own conference. The SEC wants its larger markets for the network. So as the contingency worked duplicated markets might be shed by negotiation of all parties to make the numbers game work.
So what you are reporting is either:
a. Old news about the contingencies finally coming to more public light.
b. The same old message board stuff that is designed to pump up one fan base or another by a troll.
c. The precursor to a much larger move.
My money is on b.
But in case it is c. here were the particulars. Back when the ACC was imperiled by Maryland's move and the networks were trying to make a 4 x 16 work (which btw the recent playoff debacle has brought back into focus the reality of needing to do so) the idea was that Vanderbilt and Virginia Tech could be moved to the Big 10 to make room for Duke, North Carolina, Virginia and possibly another ACC school's move into the SEC. (N.C. State was the presumed 4th school as it met the Triangles demands to stay together and it could be the impetus behind the rumor of a school weighing options to the Big 12). Texas and Oklahoma would be propped up by the additions of Florida State, Louisville, Notre Dame, Clemson, Miami, and Georgia Tech. Pittsburgh could be substituted for a recalcitrant N.D.
The East Carolina contact is pro forma. Let's say under the present conditions that the Big 12 actually added B.Y.U. and Cincinnati (not likely but let's suppose). Such a move would mean that the Big 12 was going to be off the market as far as the Big 10, PAC, and SEC expansion was concerned. It wouldn't preclude the ACC dissolution, but it would certainly impact who might be taken if it occurred. In a world however where the ACC also held firm where would the SEC go to obtain its markets if it couldn't tap another P5 source? In such a scenario having the paperwork previously handled with prospects for such an event gives them the time advantage to obtain those properties before things became a scramble.
In a world of P5 stasis East Carolina, Central Florida, Connecticut, Cincinnati, B.Y.U. and others out West all become the only viable expansion products left. I would think that the SEC would want to at least have ECU, UCF, and possibly Cincinnati prepped just in case. But that doesn't mean that anything is about to happen. But in my opinion a Big 12 expansion out of the G5 is the most hopeful sign an ECU fan could look for.
And by the way, unless it was Arkansas, or one of the Mississippi schools, I can't see anyone leaving the SEC for the Big 12. Arkansas would be returning home and a Mississippi school would be making room for another SEC addition and doing so to get out from under the shadows of Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., and now A&M.
What playoff debacle? The committee rightfully rewarded each conference that played a 13th game (CCG) and provided one true champion. The committee should continue to reward uniformity and deny deformity—refusing to risk playing a CCG. As long as the B12 wants to remain different, it should be treated different…..
Regarding the topic (ECU), if the ACC and B12 stay intact, ECU would be a good fit for the SEC. It has a football first mentality, fan base, and the facilities to transition immediately to the SEC. In fact, the SEC should add ECU now because it needs more content for its network, which is the only criticism I have regarding the network's inaugural season. Consequently, the SEC should vote along with the ACC and B12 regarding the CCG selection process. The SEC could experiment with 3 divisions of 5 schools and 1 wild card game that is aired on the SECN. If it’s a success, the SEC could add another G5 school and have 4 divisions of 4 schools with 2 wildcard games that are aired on the SECN. This is how the SEC can keep pace with or even surpass the B10 network….
SEC
North (a blasphemous name for a SEC division—forgive me... lol...)
Central: ECU, Mizzou, Kentucky, Tenn, Vandy
*South: Auburn, Bama, Florida, Georgia, SCAR
West: A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St
*Brutal division....
IMO if they want to enhance the SEC Network they need to severely curtain Paul Finebaum's endless parade of white trash. Replace him with coaches shows, or specials presented by the Universities about their academic projects etc.,. But I do think the 3 division 15 school model has some real possibilities.
(02-05-2015 07:34 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (02-05-2015 01:58 PM)Underdog Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2014 05:51 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2014 04:12 AM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ] (12-08-2014 07:17 PM)Starfox207 Wrote: [ -> ]Pick us up. You know you want to. Cmon. Pirates? PirateS?
How do you not want pirates?
Can you count how many tigers there are in college football?
Count the Number of Pirates in college. you cant beat that.
Want some? Come Get Some. Also, poor gators. We are going to be JACKED!
Seriously doubt this has any credibility:
Utini @PromiscuousJawa · 13h 13 hours ago
Vanderbilt contacted by B10
SEC sought organizational information from East Carolina today. Expansion related? Trying to confirm.
Confirmed
Would Vanderbilt leave the SEC for the B10? Hearing it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Hearing one major SEC football power is weighing options. Does the SEC HQ being in Birmingham act too favorably towards Alabama? B12 bound?
Murdccu these scenarios are about 3 years old now and if they are unfolding they were a contingency that was worked out should the ACC be dismantled. To make room for more ACC schools the SEC could work with the Big 10 who would want some Southerly expansion. Their contract is up with ESPN in 2016 and negotiations will be forthcoming. Texas wants its own conference. The SEC wants its larger markets for the network. So as the contingency worked duplicated markets might be shed by negotiation of all parties to make the numbers game work.
So what you are reporting is either:
a. Old news about the contingencies finally coming to more public light.
b. The same old message board stuff that is designed to pump up one fan base or another by a troll.
c. The precursor to a much larger move.
My money is on b.
But in case it is c. here were the particulars. Back when the ACC was imperiled by Maryland's move and the networks were trying to make a 4 x 16 work (which btw the recent playoff debacle has brought back into focus the reality of needing to do so) the idea was that Vanderbilt and Virginia Tech could be moved to the Big 10 to make room for Duke, North Carolina, Virginia and possibly another ACC school's move into the SEC. (N.C. State was the presumed 4th school as it met the Triangles demands to stay together and it could be the impetus behind the rumor of a school weighing options to the Big 12). Texas and Oklahoma would be propped up by the additions of Florida State, Louisville, Notre Dame, Clemson, Miami, and Georgia Tech. Pittsburgh could be substituted for a recalcitrant N.D.
The East Carolina contact is pro forma. Let's say under the present conditions that the Big 12 actually added B.Y.U. and Cincinnati (not likely but let's suppose). Such a move would mean that the Big 12 was going to be off the market as far as the Big 10, PAC, and SEC expansion was concerned. It wouldn't preclude the ACC dissolution, but it would certainly impact who might be taken if it occurred. In a world however where the ACC also held firm where would the SEC go to obtain its markets if it couldn't tap another P5 source? In such a scenario having the paperwork previously handled with prospects for such an event gives them the time advantage to obtain those properties before things became a scramble.
In a world of P5 stasis East Carolina, Central Florida, Connecticut, Cincinnati, B.Y.U. and others out West all become the only viable expansion products left. I would think that the SEC would want to at least have ECU, UCF, and possibly Cincinnati prepped just in case. But that doesn't mean that anything is about to happen. But in my opinion a Big 12 expansion out of the G5 is the most hopeful sign an ECU fan could look for.
And by the way, unless it was Arkansas, or one of the Mississippi schools, I can't see anyone leaving the SEC for the Big 12. Arkansas would be returning home and a Mississippi school would be making room for another SEC addition and doing so to get out from under the shadows of Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., and now A&M.
What playoff debacle? The committee rightfully rewarded each conference that played a 13th game (CCG) and provided one true champion. The committee should continue to reward uniformity and deny deformity—refusing to risk playing a CCG. As long as the B12 wants to remain different, it should be treated different…..
Regarding the topic (ECU), if the ACC and B12 stay intact, ECU would be a good fit for the SEC. It has a football first mentality, fan base, and the facilities to transition immediately to the SEC. In fact, the SEC should add ECU now because it needs more content for its network, which is the only criticism I have regarding the network's inaugural season. Consequently, the SEC should vote along with the ACC and B12 regarding the CCG selection process. The SEC could experiment with 3 divisions of 5 schools and 1 wild card game that is aired on the SECN. If it’s a success, the SEC could add another G5 school and have 4 divisions of 4 schools with 2 wildcard games that are aired on the SECN. This is how the SEC can keep pace with or even surpass the B10 network….
SEC
North (a blasphemous name for a SEC division—forgive me... lol...)
Central: ECU, Mizzou, Kentucky, Tenn, Vandy
*South: Auburn, Bama, Florida, Georgia, SCAR
West: A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St
*Brutal division....
IMO if they want to enhance the SEC Network they need to severely curtain Paul Finebaum's endless parade of white trash. Replace him with coaches shows, or specials presented by the Universities about their academic projects etc.,. But I do think the 3 division 15 school model has some real possibilities.
Finebaum is brutal, at the very least they could get it back to 3-5 instead of the full slot they have now
(03-22-2015 01:23 PM)Gamecock Wrote: [ -> ] (02-05-2015 07:34 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (02-05-2015 01:58 PM)Underdog Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2014 05:51 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2014 04:12 AM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously doubt this has any credibility:
Utini @PromiscuousJawa · 13h 13 hours ago
Vanderbilt contacted by B10
SEC sought organizational information from East Carolina today. Expansion related? Trying to confirm.
Confirmed
Would Vanderbilt leave the SEC for the B10? Hearing it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Hearing one major SEC football power is weighing options. Does the SEC HQ being in Birmingham act too favorably towards Alabama? B12 bound?
Murdccu these scenarios are about 3 years old now and if they are unfolding they were a contingency that was worked out should the ACC be dismantled. To make room for more ACC schools the SEC could work with the Big 10 who would want some Southerly expansion. Their contract is up with ESPN in 2016 and negotiations will be forthcoming. Texas wants its own conference. The SEC wants its larger markets for the network. So as the contingency worked duplicated markets might be shed by negotiation of all parties to make the numbers game work.
So what you are reporting is either:
a. Old news about the contingencies finally coming to more public light.
b. The same old message board stuff that is designed to pump up one fan base or another by a troll.
c. The precursor to a much larger move.
My money is on b.
But in case it is c. here were the particulars. Back when the ACC was imperiled by Maryland's move and the networks were trying to make a 4 x 16 work (which btw the recent playoff debacle has brought back into focus the reality of needing to do so) the idea was that Vanderbilt and Virginia Tech could be moved to the Big 10 to make room for Duke, North Carolina, Virginia and possibly another ACC school's move into the SEC. (N.C. State was the presumed 4th school as it met the Triangles demands to stay together and it could be the impetus behind the rumor of a school weighing options to the Big 12). Texas and Oklahoma would be propped up by the additions of Florida State, Louisville, Notre Dame, Clemson, Miami, and Georgia Tech. Pittsburgh could be substituted for a recalcitrant N.D.
The East Carolina contact is pro forma. Let's say under the present conditions that the Big 12 actually added B.Y.U. and Cincinnati (not likely but let's suppose). Such a move would mean that the Big 12 was going to be off the market as far as the Big 10, PAC, and SEC expansion was concerned. It wouldn't preclude the ACC dissolution, but it would certainly impact who might be taken if it occurred. In a world however where the ACC also held firm where would the SEC go to obtain its markets if it couldn't tap another P5 source? In such a scenario having the paperwork previously handled with prospects for such an event gives them the time advantage to obtain those properties before things became a scramble.
In a world of P5 stasis East Carolina, Central Florida, Connecticut, Cincinnati, B.Y.U. and others out West all become the only viable expansion products left. I would think that the SEC would want to at least have ECU, UCF, and possibly Cincinnati prepped just in case. But that doesn't mean that anything is about to happen. But in my opinion a Big 12 expansion out of the G5 is the most hopeful sign an ECU fan could look for.
And by the way, unless it was Arkansas, or one of the Mississippi schools, I can't see anyone leaving the SEC for the Big 12. Arkansas would be returning home and a Mississippi school would be making room for another SEC addition and doing so to get out from under the shadows of Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., and now A&M.
What playoff debacle? The committee rightfully rewarded each conference that played a 13th game (CCG) and provided one true champion. The committee should continue to reward uniformity and deny deformity—refusing to risk playing a CCG. As long as the B12 wants to remain different, it should be treated different…..
Regarding the topic (ECU), if the ACC and B12 stay intact, ECU would be a good fit for the SEC. It has a football first mentality, fan base, and the facilities to transition immediately to the SEC. In fact, the SEC should add ECU now because it needs more content for its network, which is the only criticism I have regarding the network's inaugural season. Consequently, the SEC should vote along with the ACC and B12 regarding the CCG selection process. The SEC could experiment with 3 divisions of 5 schools and 1 wild card game that is aired on the SECN. If it’s a success, the SEC could add another G5 school and have 4 divisions of 4 schools with 2 wildcard games that are aired on the SECN. This is how the SEC can keep pace with or even surpass the B10 network….
SEC
North (a blasphemous name for a SEC division—forgive me... lol...)
Central: ECU, Mizzou, Kentucky, Tenn, Vandy
*South: Auburn, Bama, Florida, Georgia, SCAR
West: A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St
*Brutal division....
IMO if they want to enhance the SEC Network they need to severely curtain Paul Finebaum's endless parade of white trash. Replace him with coaches shows, or specials presented by the Universities about their academic projects etc.,. But I do think the 3 division 15 school model has some real possibilities.
Finebaum is brutal, at the very least they could get it back to 3-5 instead of the full slot they have now
I been away from the boards for a while, but haven’t forgotten this topic. I agree with JRsec and you about Finebaum. However, many of his southern callers don’t help present a positive image of the show, the SEC, and the south. Nevertheless, I watch him periodically because there aren’t many SEC fans on this board to interact with. Consequently, I watch his show in order to obtain a “supposed” SEC perspective on certain topics. Unfortunately, Finebaum appears to lack enthusiasm while some of his callers present a stereotypical image of the south. Since this was the network's inaugural season, I overlooked the flaws with the hope of obtaining a better understanding of the SEC. With that said, I hope his show drastically improves: He needs to select callers that can share knowledgeable dialogue on the program so that someone like me can learn more about the SEC along with current affairs regarding the conference.
In addition to the above, I wish JRsec had his own “Realignment” show on the SECN (with H1 as a frequent guest)….
Someone has to keep the dream alive.
North Carolina is an amazing area for college sports. Basketball? Damn you have UNC, Duke, State, hell North Carolina Central is pretty decent, and UNCA maybe charlotte. But ask anyone who is the King in Football? East Carolina is big time Football and is what we care about. Just watch the Pre Game Shows of SEC Games tailgating. We have that and match it.
UNC system put in laws so UNC has to play at our place for a 70-41 beat down, or else their flagship would be to scared. We are Undaunted, and our fanbase GETS UP for Gamecocks, Gators, etc.
You would have a power house in North Carolina, Just Saying.
Go Pirates!
Pirates are Cool! Makes too much sense for the SEC to grab the State of NC market wise. Those other ACC schools in NC are a bunch of prep school candy asses! :). ECU is the only true SEC DNA option. Grab VT while you are at it as well.
(04-12-2015 06:44 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Pirates are Cool! Makes too much sense for the SEC to grab the State of NC market wise. Those other ACC schools in NC are a bunch of prep school candy asses! :). ECU is the only true SEC DNA option. Grab VT while you are at it as well.
I like your attitude! If any of the UConn to the Big 10 rumors are true, it might open the door for E.C.U. a lot wider with respect to the SEC. Why? It will be apparent to everyone that Delany would not be taking UConn unless there were no options in the ACC. That means the same would be true for the SEC.
Texas making a move could trigger some shake ups coupled with the B10 move to add a school...UCONN or Texas maybe?
Any teams that do get the call up from the SEC better come with expanded stadiums, a new market, big crowd, upside potential (see SC), and a southern and SEC attitude. Few teams fit that for the SEC..ECU (expanding to 60k by 2016, NC..VA...DC and MD market, highest attendance average in the G5-around 50k, major upside and current facilities expansion, and a southern football game day atmosphere).
Cincy from Ohio is not in a southern state. UCF and USF are a wash with the Gators in terms of new market potential. Memphis as well I.e. The Vols.
I am so excited for the Expansion. Haven't heard much about it, but I know the campus is growing a TON. Are we in a huge city? No, we aren't.
Is Clemson? (no) I think being in the country helps because it will fill even a bigger stadium than 60k to be quite honest, because we are the only show in town, and if its a good one, the flood of people from over the border and from Raleigh Durham arrive. Give us meaningful competition at home, and Dowdy Fick is extremely close to capacity.
(04-13-2015 07:22 AM)VirginiaPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Texas making a move could trigger some shake ups coupled with the B10 move to add a school...UCONN or Texas maybe?
Any teams that do get the call up from the SEC better come with expanded stadiums, a new market, big crowd, upside potential (see SC), and a southern and SEC attitude. Few teams fit that for the SEC..ECU (expanding to 60k by 2016, NC..VA...DC and MD market, highest attendance average in the G5-around 50k, major upside and current facilities expansion, and a southern football game day atmosphere).
Cincy from Ohio is not in a southern state. UCF and USF are a wash with the Gators in terms of new market potential. Memphis as well I.e. The Vols.
Well you wouldn't be too far away from our minimums. For a new school entering (not an existing school) the minimum stadium capacity is 73,000. Missouri had to expand to meet it. A&M didn't but has since expanded to well over 100,000.