(12-04-2022 07:31 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 07:29 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 01:03 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Naw Trump is just a moron without a filter. I doubt he's ever read the Constitution. All he knows is there is something about the Constitution that kept him from being president again. And he wants that part cut out. Maybe the stuff about quartering troops in your home... he'll keep that.

Off your meds again?

TIGERCITY has TDS. His case appears to be extremely severe.

I sometimes wonder if two different people aren't using his account or if he just has a personality disorder. He's made a couple of posts that actually made sense, not many though.

Tanqtonic…

A. Saying Trump is trying to overthrow the Constitution is ridiculous

B. The lefts orgasmic reaction to his comments are typical and equally as ridiculous

C. I really don’t know or care if you’re a lib or not. You are clearly an intelligent and probably very thoughtful individual. For you to latch on to an overblown bunch of nonsense like this thread implies is laughable, however.

The premise of the thread is typical of the left and clearly tone deaf and insane.

(12-04-2022 07:50 PM)450bench Wrote:  Tanqtonic…

A. Saying Trump is trying to overthrow the Constitution is ridiculous

B. The lefts orgasmic reaction to his comments are typical and equally as ridiculous

C. I really don’t know or care if you’re a lib or not. You are clearly an intelligent and probably very thoughtful individual. For you to latch on to an overblown bunch of nonsense like this thread implies is laughable, however.

The premise of the thread is typical of the left and clearly tone deaf and insane.

The thought of *any* politician, let alone an ex-President, stating that there is *any* circumstance that "allows for termination of all rules ... even those found in Constitution" is pretty abhorrent.

Im not saying he is trying to overthrow the Constitution, but no sane person in a high position, or trying to be in a high position, would ever *think* of publishing that idea.

The nonsense isnt that people are criticizing it -- the nonsense is that the creep *said* it. The other nonsense is that there are people thinking it defensible somehow.

How do *you* find that comment by a candidate for President to be defensible in the slightest? None of the 'whadaboutism' and stuff ---- address Trump's statement, and his statement only.

How is that in *any* way defensible?

Seriously, the Donald has called out to “Terminate” the Constitution’s rules.

And retrospectively declare him the winner of the 2020 presidential contest. Seriously.

Who, exactly, would do that? How would that happen? Does this guy even fing think before spouting this level of ****?

This is completely nuts. This is Kanye West batshit insane. I am seriously beginning to wonder whether Trump is a paid operative of the Democratic Party. I don’t know how else to explain the profound damage he is inflicting on the conservative cause and the GOP.

This is the level of idiocy that one has a very hard time explaining away. Not only flipping completely idiotic, but I cannot believe that an explicit candidate for President would throw this out as a communication it is so flipping stupid *and* perversely disgusting.

Pretty simple. I don’t think his intent was anything like this thread implies.
The hyperbolic reaction to everything Trump says is magnified by a million and this is no different.
You call him a creep, fine.
I call him a great President because the results of his presidency clearly point to that. Period.

Reagan was a great one, I think Bill Clinton was really a good President and Trump was as well. No question about it.

so does this mean that Trump wants to get rid of the second amendment?

(12-04-2022 08:11 PM)fsquid Wrote:  so does this mean that Trump wants to get rid of the second amendment?

Trumps banning bump stocks via executive branch sets a precedent that is very anti 2A. It required property to be destroyed with no grandfather clause, which hadn’t been done before. Sets up another president to ban pistol braces as SBRs, or reclassify magazines that hold more than 10 rounds as destructive devices with the stroke of a pen.

(12-04-2022 08:09 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I am seriously beginning to wonder whether Trump is a paid operative of the Democratic Party. I don’t know how else to explain the profound damage he is inflicting on the conservative cause and the GOP.

It’s pretty hard to explain Donald Trump’s behavior over the past year without resorting to hyperbole.

I cannot fathom that he is a paid mole of the Democrat Party. That just doesn’t add up.

But the only other possible explanation that I can come up with is that he is experiencing a psychotic break from reality. It would explain the lashing out, such as this latest nonstarter suggestion that he be re-installed as president or that the nation undertake a do-over election. It would also explain Ivanka’s recent disavowing of his 2024 adventure.

In short, he is neither stable nor a genius.

He instead appears to be a man on a crusade to bring down this country.

(12-04-2022 08:32 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  In short, he is neither stable nor a genius.

He instead appears to be a man on a crusade to bring down this country.

Maybe the most laugh out loud ridiculous, hypocrisy filled posts ever on this board.

(12-04-2022 08:40 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 08:32 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  In short, he is neither stable nor a genius.

He instead appears to be a man on a crusade to bring down this country.

Maybe the most laugh out loud ridiculous, hypocrisy filled posts ever on this board.

It does seem absurd, doesn’t it. I actually wrote, deleted and then rewrote the preceding two posts before submitting.

But tanq is dead-on right here. There is no justifiable spin one can put on this latest outburst from the former president. It is as bad as, and in fact in someways worse than, his completely disgraceful let-it-burn attitude on Jan. 6.

I am a Trumper to the core.

He lost me. I am done.

(12-04-2022 09:16 PM)Claw Wrote:  I am a Trumper to the core.
He lost me. I am done.

Good.

We need a way to push the libertarian populist conservative point of view without the excess baggage that comes with Donald John Trump. The only two ways I can see for us to get there by 2024 are 1) democrats succeed in martyring him, which seems ever more and more far fetched after 6 years of intense witch hunts have produced nothing of substance, or 2) enough Trump supporters dump the man but remain true to the ideas.

We need a way to get back to this country’s values and principals and laws etc.

We did that with common sense politics. Trump was and is a master of common sense politics. That’s why he was successful. We need someone with balls who can stick up for Americans and America. Trump was and is a master of that as well.

I also think DeSantis is that and can be that in the Presidency.

I will vote for DeSantis much like I voted for Ted Cruz in the 2016 primaries.

But if Trump wins he’ll get my vote, without question.

If the spoiled rotten loons on the left had let the man do his job instead of crying for 4 years, this country wouldn’t be at odds. Period.

As I see it, the USA faces three major problems:

1) The loss of manufacturing to overseas.
2) The threat of China.
3) The ever-growing meddling into every aspect of our private lives by government.

I don't see why republicans can't seem to come up with a coherent policy agenda to address all three.

(12-04-2022 09:59 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  As I see it, the USA faces three major problems:

1) The loss of manufacturing to overseas.
2) The threat of China.
3) The ever-growing meddling into every aspect of our private lives by government.

I don't see why republicans can't seem to come up with a coherent policy agenda to address all three.

When Trump was in office, those issues seemed to be better, certainly 1 and 3. And 2 to some degree.

(12-04-2022 10:03 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 09:59 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  As I see it, the USA faces three major problems:
1) The loss of manufacturing to overseas.
2) The threat of China.
3) The ever-growing meddling into every aspect of our private lives by government.
I don't see why republicans can't seem to come up with a coherent policy agenda to address all three.

When Trump was in office, those issues seemed to be better, certainly 1 and 3. And 2 to some degree.

I agree, which is why I say we need Trump's ideas without Trump's negatives. I don't think he can get 270 EVs if he is the nominee, and if he is not the nominee he will almost certainly mount a third party effort that will hand 2024 to the democrats. After that, it will probably be time to stick a fork in the USA. And as Reagan noted, once the USA is gone, there won't be anywhere else.

I hope you’re wrong about the country. I think you probably are and I am not so sure Trump will run as an independent. I don’t think he will.

(12-04-2022 10:23 PM)450bench Wrote:  I hope you’re wrong about the country. I think you probably are and I am not so sure Trump will run as an independent. I don’t think he will.

I hope I am wrong too, but for once I'm Pessimistic Owl.

The good news is that at my age I probably won't be around for a lot of it. One thing--and nothing is imminent here, so don't get worried about me--is that for many years I wanted to be buried at Arlington. I have some relatives buried there, and I just really, really like the way they take care of it, and how easy it is to find where loved ones are buried there. But the more disenchanted I become with the USA, the more I think I just want to be cremated and my ashes spread at sea.

(12-04-2022 10:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 10:23 PM)450bench Wrote:  I hope you’re wrong about the country. I think you probably are and I am not so sure Trump will run as an independent. I don’t think he will.

I hope I am wrong too, but for once I'm Pessimistic Owl.

The good news is that at my age I probably won't be around for a lot of it. One thing--and nothing is imminent here, so don't get worried about me--is that for many years I wanted to be buried at Arlington. I have some relatives buried there, and I just really, really like the way they take care of it, and how easy it is to find where loved ones are buried there. But the more disenchanted I become with the USA, the more I think I just want to be cremated and my ashes spread at sea.

I hope you’re around for many, many, many elections to come. Regardless of the outcome.