(03-26-2022 03:38 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 02:42 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 02:38 PM)passat25 Wrote:  The NCAA can go f*ck themselves.

Exactly......This absolutely reeks....This is a lot of teaching to try and continue to show dominance over an entity....This is equivalent to bullying....just because you can....How do these events get casually swept under the rug with other institutions....F**K JB and F*%K NCAA TOO

And f**k djt too! Got to keep it even.

(03-26-2022 01:29 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Wow, those 3 games we had Wiseman sure did transform our program.

A blind man could see the university was going to get hammered for that. So clearly a colossal mistake. oh well.

(03-26-2022 01:57 PM)maximus Wrote:  Video of the BIG 12 commissioner's reaction to the news of the Memphis allegations and how fast they will move onto the next in line.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CUx5-_HpT..._copy_link

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(03-26-2022 05:10 PM)danny1 Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 03:38 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 02:42 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 02:38 PM)passat25 Wrote:  The NCAA can go f*ck themselves.

Exactly......This absolutely reeks....This is a lot of teaching to try and continue to show dominance over an entity....This is equivalent to bullying....just because you can....How do these events get casually swept under the rug with other institutions....F**K JB and F*%K NCAA TOO

And f**k djt too! Got to keep it even.

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The NCAA was on campus because of the Wiseman situation, so to say these infractions have nothing to do with it is crazy. The “lack of institutional control” is rooted in the school’s decision to thumb their nose at the NCAA’s suggestion he was ineligible. Once here, they cited numerous occurrences where the school was uncooperative with the investigation, which again points to a lack of institutional control.

The university leadership made some dreadfully bad decisions.

Well this is a fine mess.

(03-26-2022 05:27 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The NCAA was on campus because of the Wiseman situation, so to say these infractions have nothing to do with it is crazy. The “lack of institutional control” is rooted in the school’s decision to thumb their nose at the NCAA’s suggestion he was ineligible. Once here, they cited numerous occurrences where the school was uncooperative with the investigation, which again points to a lack of institutional control.

The university leadership made some dreadfully bad decisions.

We could've self imposed penalties over the Wiseman case and it most likely would've been the end of it.

But we chose to cover things up, hide and tamper with evidence and hinder the investigation.

We're attached to another object by an inclined plane wrapped helically around an axis.

Do you guys really think this is the death sentence for the Big 12?

I don’t care about firing penny post season bans all of that idc that’s all short term and can be fixed but not getting into the Big 12 could forever.. I mean literally forever change the University of Memphis on an athletic standpoint. If we really just ruined it and lost that chance I cant even fathom it.

I’m sick.

This has never made sense to me. Penny is probably leaving and the kid that was involved doesn’t even play here.

(03-26-2022 01:19 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  The charge of obstructing an investigation is the killer.

Especially with the deleting of hard drives and tampering with emails turned over to investigators.

If they can prove it then it would be no different than Pearle getting players and coaches to lie to the NCAA at Tennesee.

Penny is going to be treated very differently by the school.

If true then anyone with a name other than Hardaway would be dismissed with cause immediately.

No it’s not lol. How do you think UNC got off basically for nothing? The only charges that stuck were the failure to cooperate ones. Because the ncaa can’t prove their case if you don’t give them the information since they cant subpoena you.

(03-26-2022 02:05 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Main allegation of impeding the investigation through deletion of text messages point to Mike Miller

The rest seems procedural matters they will try to hang the program on….ie not filing timely manner, not right format and inadequate resources to make sure there was proper internal compliance and assumes Penny is responsible for the other violations

The last points about history of past violations 40 years ago was uncalled for should be never ever be used against any program no matter how egregious the allegations are

This is the part that burns me and reeks of a hit job

(03-26-2022 05:43 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 05:27 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The NCAA was on campus because of the Wiseman situation, so to say these infractions have nothing to do with it is crazy. The “lack of institutional control” is rooted in the school’s decision to thumb their nose at the NCAA’s suggestion he was ineligible. Once here, they cited numerous occurrences where the school was uncooperative with the investigation, which again points to a lack of institutional control.

The university leadership made some dreadfully bad decisions.

We could've self imposed penalties over the Wiseman case and it most likely would've been the end of it.

But we chose to cover things up, hide and tamper with evidence and hinder the investigation.

We're attached to another object by an inclined plane wrapped helically around an axis.

WE didn’t do anything and you don’t know a damn thing about erasing hard drives.

I’m so tired of you trying to take everyone but our university’s side every chance you get.

Go root for nascar and stay out of Memphis sports. You’re sure as hell not a fan

The athletic department could never provide adequate oversight of the program because Penny was above question. This dysfunction was Bowen’s fault. There was never an escape strategy with Penny (just like Georgetown and Ewing). Hiring him was a short sighted decision to infuse money into a desperate basketball program

If that history proves anything, I feel like we’re going to try to keep Penny and fight the charges while living in a temporary bubble of denial. This is going to be to the long term detriment of the entire athletic program.

Looks like nascar and his ego got denied yet another chance to kick the tigers when they’re down.

Thanks mods for being on point.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-945243.html

(03-26-2022 05:07 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  I feel sort of bad for Laird. Some of this happened on his watch, but he probably inherited much more of a mess and many more skeletons in the closet than he expected. I’m not sure if he makes it through this, either. I also wonder if this will be far reaching enough to bring Bowen down at ASU

The silver lining, if we do get nailed.

(03-26-2022 06:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 05:07 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  I feel sort of bad for Laird. Some of this happened on his watch, but he probably inherited much more of a mess and many more skeletons in the closet than he expected. I’m not sure if he makes it through this, either. I also wonder if this will be far reaching enough to bring Bowen down at ASU

The silver lining, if we do get nailed.

I mean he was put in a tough situation. Hired in August. This happens in November. Hamstrung by boosters and the fact that he has a donor and local legend supposedly working under him.

(03-26-2022 06:05 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 05:43 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 05:27 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The NCAA was on campus because of the Wiseman situation, so to say these infractions have nothing to do with it is crazy. The “lack of institutional control” is rooted in the school’s decision to thumb their nose at the NCAA’s suggestion he was ineligible. Once here, they cited numerous occurrences where the school was uncooperative with the investigation, which again points to a lack of institutional control.

The university leadership made some dreadfully bad decisions.

We could've self imposed penalties over the Wiseman case and it most likely would've been the end of it.

But we chose to cover things up, hide and tamper with evidence and hinder the investigation.

We're attached to another object by an inclined plane wrapped helically around an axis.

WE didn’t do anything and you don’t know a damn thing about erasing hard drives.

I’m so tired of you trying to take everyone but our university’s side every chance you get.

Go root for nascar and stay out of Memphis sports. You’re sure as hell not a fan

That NASCAR guy has never been honest, objective, or shown integrity. Ever. He whitewashes Dana Kirk, making the lamest excuses and apologies for his corruption and lack of ethics. Further, he makes up statistics to denigrate our team and lies again saying he gets his numbers straight from the NCAA so that he can talk down to fans. Thankfully, he's been exposed as a liar and a poor example of a fan, among other things.

Shame that I finally get solid WiFi in my travels and I have to find out about the NCAA and then read his nonsense...as if he knows any details. Par for the course for that guy.

(03-26-2022 06:09 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  The athletic department could never provide adequate oversight of the program because Penny was above question. This dysfunction was Bowen’s fault. There was never an escape strategy with Penny (just like Georgetown and Ewing). Hiring him was a short sighted decision to infuse money into a desperate basketball program

If that history proves anything, I feel like we’re going to try to keep Penny and fight the charges while living in a temporary bubble of denial. This is going to be to the long term detriment of the entire athletic program.

This.

New pres coming in should clean house - Veatch, Penny, whoever else and tell the NCAA that there’s a new sheriff in town and things will handled differently. That’s about our only play here. The NCAA is a crooked corrupt organization but they hold all the cards. But the sooner the school takes its medicine, the better.

This is where Memphis should had set up a camera to catch the NCAA tactics