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(11-24-2021 08:31 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
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(11-23-2021 01:29 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  Va Tech as the favorite says a lot about Penny's coaching abilities.

26 turnovers. My man should be embarrassed. I don't care what the situation was. 26 turnovers is sad. And it's not a new problem.

I expect us to struggle to beat good teams. So does Vegas, apparently.

Link on Va Tech as the favorite?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket.../401370022

That's not a line.
That's their BPI algorithm - and the BPI is hot garbage this early in the year.
Much like many of our posters, the BPI still has too much preseason bias to be reliable.
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(11-24-2021 09:18 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  And boom goes the dynamite

lol
That's not dynamite.
That's a snap-and-pop.
All lines now have Memphis -1.5 to Memphis -3.0.
Here's your dynamite.

https://www.oddsshark.com/ncaab/odds
https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-bas...las-vegas/

Even ESPN, regardless of what their BPI says, shows Memphis as the true favorite.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/lines
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(11-23-2021 05:49 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  sure wish Boogie was still here...

He's not playing PG at USC - because he's not a PG.
So if he was here, he would likely be inconsistent trying to play PG - like he always was - because, well, he's not a PG.
Or he would be riding the bench behind Bates and LQ.
Or, maybe, if he's still here Emoni decides to go elsewhere.
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(11-24-2021 09:46 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 03:27 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  It was only a couple weeks ago that many thought Timberlake was a turnover headcase of little use. They didn’t even like the seriously intense expressions on his face and wondered if he would ever contribute.

Now people want him to lead the show. lol

It was only a couple of weeks ago that Timberlake was a turnover headcase of little use. His last two outings were significantly improved and gave us a look at his true potential.


Yeah I hope he ends up being really good, but to this point he’s been wildly inconsistent. Hopefully he has turned the corner. If he can get to the hoop and finish consistently, he can be a major asset.
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(11-24-2021 12:55 AM)passat25 Wrote:  Penny better take Timberlake off the leash and let him play.

Penny has the leash removed. He is begging Earl to just play. Early prognostications of NBA drafts and his injury has gotten into Earl's head.
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Low key am highly nervous about this one. Va Tech does a lot of things that have historically been the Achilles heel for our teams under Penny
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(11-24-2021 10:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 09:18 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  And boom goes the dynamite

lol
That's not dynamite.
That's a snap-and-pop.
All lines now have Memphis -1.5 to Memphis -3.0.
Here's your dynamite.

https://www.oddsshark.com/ncaab/odds
https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-bas...las-vegas/

Even ESPN, regardless of what their BPI says, shows Memphis as the true favorite.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/lines

We are 15-3 since the players figured it out. Our 3 losses all one possession games, all on the road, one on a miracle shot, and two versus a final four team away from home.

I'm going to have to go with Tim and the guy that was hearing voices about the point spread. I'm going to stop drinking the blue kool-aid for a minute and say what everyone is thinking. Penny sucks.
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(11-24-2021 10:45 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 09:46 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 03:27 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  It was only a couple weeks ago that many thought Timberlake was a turnover headcase of little use. They didn’t even like the seriously intense expressions on his face and wondered if he would ever contribute.

Now people want him to lead the show. lol

It was only a couple of weeks ago that Timberlake was a turnover headcase of little use. His last two outings were significantly improved and gave us a look at his true potential.


Yeah I hope he ends up being really good, but to this point he’s been wildly inconsistent. Hopefully he has turned the corner. If he can get to the hoop and finish consistently, he can be a major asset.

The kid has played 11 games and has been injured the entire time, and still is. He still can't shoot. Neither Timberlake, nor some of our crazy fans have any patience.
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(11-24-2021 09:51 AM)dwash Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 12:55 AM)passat25 Wrote:  Penny better take Timberlake off the leash and let him play.

Him and Miniott. Sit his son and his god son down. He wont do it though

So Timberlake has proven to you that he is a competent ball handler and wont turn it over if pressed?
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Line is anywhere from Memphis -2.5 to 3.5 depending on where you look
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This shouldn't be a close game based on Talent.

Keep turnovers down...And move the ball on offense and we should win this one going away.
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(11-24-2021 11:18 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  This shouldn't be a close game based on Talent.

Keep turnovers down...And move the ball on offense and we should win this one going away.

I desperately hope this year will be different and it will all finally click, like it did for Cal when he got the Laurinburg Prep group. But after watching us play WKU at home, I have this pit in my stomach that tells me we are still the same old AAU team that we've been during the Penny coaching era.

Look, we all watch the games. We've heard multiple color commentators, including Dick Vitale, make comments like "They dribble with no purpose" and "Their offense is nothing more than taking turns". We've seen games where they turn the ball over 25 + times, many of the turnovers being ridiculous and unforced. We've seen 12-13 man rotations with guys like Jaden playing too many minutes. We know that we still don't have an elite, true PG that is proven and can take care of the ball and facilitate.

I hope this season is different. I really do. I'm just not convinced it will be.

We'll see. But if you put a gun to my head and said pick the game tonight, I'm leaning Va Tech.
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(11-24-2021 12:01 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:18 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  This shouldn't be a close game based on Talent.

Keep turnovers down...And move the ball on offense and we should win this one going away.

I desperately hope this year will be different and it will all finally click, like it did for Cal when he got the Laurinburg Prep group. But after watching us play WKU at home, I have this pit in my stomach that tells me we are still the same old AAU team that we've been during the Penny coaching era.

Look, we all watch the games. We've heard multiple color commentators, including Dick Vitale, make comments like "They dribble with no purpose" and "Their offense is nothing more than taking turns". We've seen games where they turn the ball over 25 + times, many of the turnovers being ridiculous and unforced. We've seen 12-13 man rotations with guys like Jaden playing too many minutes. We know that we still don't have an elite, true PG that is proven and can take care of the ball and facilitate.

I hope this season is different. I really do. I'm just not convinced it will be.

We'll see. But if you put a gun to my head and said pick the game tonight, I'm leaning Va Tech.

While I do see what you are talking about ..

We were a much improved team on offense late last year. Seems we have forgot that last year our effectiveness revolved around playing through Williams.
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(11-24-2021 12:01 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:18 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  This shouldn't be a close game based on Talent.

Keep turnovers down...And move the ball on offense and we should win this one going away.

I desperately hope this year will be different and it will all finally click, like it did for Cal when he got the Laurinburg Prep group. But after watching us play WKU at home, I have this pit in my stomach that tells me we are still the same old AAU team that we've been during the Penny coaching era.

Look, we all watch the games. We've heard multiple color commentators, including Dick Vitale, make comments like "They dribble with no purpose" and "Their offense is nothing more than taking turns". We've seen games where they turn the ball over 25 + times, many of the turnovers being ridiculous and unforced. We've seen 12-13 man rotations with guys like Jaden playing too many minutes. We know that we still don't have an elite, true PG that is proven and can take care of the ball and facilitate.

I hope this season is different. I really do. I'm just not convinced it will be.

We'll see. But if you put a gun to my head and said pick the game tonight, I'm leaning Va Tech.

They didn’t learn to play defense the way they do in AAU.
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(11-24-2021 12:01 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:18 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  This shouldn't be a close game based on Talent.

Keep turnovers down...And move the ball on offense and we should win this one going away.

I desperately hope this year will be different and it will all finally click, like it did for Cal when he got the Laurinburg Prep group. But after watching us play WKU at home, I have this pit in my stomach that tells me we are still the same old AAU team that we've been during the Penny coaching era.

Look, we all watch the games. We've heard multiple color commentators, including Dick Vitale, make comments like "They dribble with no purpose" and "Their offense is nothing more than taking turns". We've seen games where they turn the ball over 25 + times, many of the turnovers being ridiculous and unforced. We've seen 12-13 man rotations with guys like Jaden playing too many minutes. We know that we still don't have an elite, true PG that is proven and can take care of the ball and facilitate.

I hope this season is different. I really do. I'm just not convinced it will be.

We'll see. But if you put a gun to my head and said pick the game tonight, I'm leaning Va Tech.

Nobody is putting a gun to your head. It makes you happy to always be as miserable as possible, even if it means pulling out quotes from when we were a bad team last year, and jumping on the bandwagon when a posters says he is hearing things about a non existent point spread.

Before we figured it out last year, we were scoring 71 points per game. This year we are scoring 86 points per game. The turnovers are atrocious, but we are also turning over our opponents like crazy, and we have a lot more firepower and a lot more depth.
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(11-24-2021 12:17 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 12:01 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:18 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  This shouldn't be a close game based on Talent.

Keep turnovers down...And move the ball on offense and we should win this one going away.

I desperately hope this year will be different and it will all finally click, like it did for Cal when he got the Laurinburg Prep group. But after watching us play WKU at home, I have this pit in my stomach that tells me we are still the same old AAU team that we've been during the Penny coaching era.

Look, we all watch the games. We've heard multiple color commentators, including Dick Vitale, make comments like "They dribble with no purpose" and "Their offense is nothing more than taking turns". We've seen games where they turn the ball over 25 + times, many of the turnovers being ridiculous and unforced. We've seen 12-13 man rotations with guys like Jaden playing too many minutes. We know that we still don't have an elite, true PG that is proven and can take care of the ball and facilitate.

I hope this season is different. I really do. I'm just not convinced it will be.

We'll see. But if you put a gun to my head and said pick the game tonight, I'm leaning Va Tech.

They didn’t learn to play defense the way they do in AAU.

That's fair. The defense is really, really good. That's been the saving grace in many instances. It's the offense that is tough to watch.
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(11-24-2021 12:26 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 12:01 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:18 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  This shouldn't be a close game based on Talent.

Keep turnovers down...And move the ball on offense and we should win this one going away.

I desperately hope this year will be different and it will all finally click, like it did for Cal when he got the Laurinburg Prep group. But after watching us play WKU at home, I have this pit in my stomach that tells me we are still the same old AAU team that we've been during the Penny coaching era.

Look, we all watch the games. We've heard multiple color commentators, including Dick Vitale, make comments like "They dribble with no purpose" and "Their offense is nothing more than taking turns". We've seen games where they turn the ball over 25 + times, many of the turnovers being ridiculous and unforced. We've seen 12-13 man rotations with guys like Jaden playing too many minutes. We know that we still don't have an elite, true PG that is proven and can take care of the ball and facilitate.

I hope this season is different. I really do. I'm just not convinced it will be.

We'll see. But if you put a gun to my head and said pick the game tonight, I'm leaning Va Tech.

Nobody is putting a gun to your head. It makes you happy to always be as miserable as possible, even if it means pulling out quotes from when we were a bad team last year, and jumping on the bandwagon when a posters says he is hearing things about a non existent point spread.

Before we figured it out last year, we were scoring 71 points per game. This year we are scoring 86 points per game. The turnovers are atrocious, but we are also turning over our opponents like crazy, and we have a lot more firepower and a lot more depth.

You are the type that gets riled up and upset when someone is critical of the team. Otherwise, you would have only responded with the bolded portion.
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(11-24-2021 01:18 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 12:26 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 12:01 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:18 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  This shouldn't be a close game based on Talent.

Keep turnovers down...And move the ball on offense and we should win this one going away.

I desperately hope this year will be different and it will all finally click, like it did for Cal when he got the Laurinburg Prep group. But after watching us play WKU at home, I have this pit in my stomach that tells me we are still the same old AAU team that we've been during the Penny coaching era.

Look, we all watch the games. We've heard multiple color commentators, including Dick Vitale, make comments like "They dribble with no purpose" and "Their offense is nothing more than taking turns". We've seen games where they turn the ball over 25 + times, many of the turnovers being ridiculous and unforced. We've seen 12-13 man rotations with guys like Jaden playing too many minutes. We know that we still don't have an elite, true PG that is proven and can take care of the ball and facilitate.

I hope this season is different. I really do. I'm just not convinced it will be.

We'll see. But if you put a gun to my head and said pick the game tonight, I'm leaning Va Tech.

Nobody is putting a gun to your head. It makes you happy to always be as miserable as possible, even if it means pulling out quotes from when we were a bad team last year, and jumping on the bandwagon when a posters says he is hearing things about a non existent point spread.

Before we figured it out last year, we were scoring 71 points per game. This year we are scoring 86 points per game. The turnovers are atrocious, but we are also turning over our opponents like crazy, and we have a lot more firepower and a lot more depth.

You are the type that gets riled up and upset when someone is critical of the team. Otherwise, you would have only responded with the bolded portion.

I'm not riled up, I'm laughing at you. You are using the weirdo concept of line speculation as some kind of proof that Penny sucks. You are allowed being weird.

We are 18-3 with three one possession losses including two against Final Four Houston. You (of course) are focused on quotes from when we weren't a good team and uniquely focused on turnovers, ignoring anything and everything that is good.

Keeping it real...real miserable. As usual.
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(11-24-2021 01:25 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 01:18 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 12:26 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 12:01 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:18 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  This shouldn't be a close game based on Talent.

Keep turnovers down...And move the ball on offense and we should win this one going away.

I desperately hope this year will be different and it will all finally click, like it did for Cal when he got the Laurinburg Prep group. But after watching us play WKU at home, I have this pit in my stomach that tells me we are still the same old AAU team that we've been during the Penny coaching era.

Look, we all watch the games. We've heard multiple color commentators, including Dick Vitale, make comments like "They dribble with no purpose" and "Their offense is nothing more than taking turns". We've seen games where they turn the ball over 25 + times, many of the turnovers being ridiculous and unforced. We've seen 12-13 man rotations with guys like Jaden playing too many minutes. We know that we still don't have an elite, true PG that is proven and can take care of the ball and facilitate.

I hope this season is different. I really do. I'm just not convinced it will be.

We'll see. But if you put a gun to my head and said pick the game tonight, I'm leaning Va Tech.

Nobody is putting a gun to your head. It makes you happy to always be as miserable as possible, even if it means pulling out quotes from when we were a bad team last year, and jumping on the bandwagon when a posters says he is hearing things about a non existent point spread.

Before we figured it out last year, we were scoring 71 points per game. This year we are scoring 86 points per game. The turnovers are atrocious, but we are also turning over our opponents like crazy, and we have a lot more firepower and a lot more depth.

You are the type that gets riled up and upset when someone is critical of the team. Otherwise, you would have only responded with the bolded portion.

I'm not riled up, I'm laughing at you. You are using the weirdo concept of line speculation as some kind of proof that Penny sucks. You are allowed being weird.

We are 18-3 with three one possession losses including two against Final Four Houston. You (of course) are focused on quotes from when we weren't a good team and uniquely focused on turnovers, ignoring anything and everything that is good.

Keeping it real...real miserable. As usual.

Walk me through their highlight wins during that incredible 18-3 stretch. I'll hang up and listen.
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