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It’s kind of embarrassing to be the only school not playing. It may wind up being the right choice, but it sucks right now. I hope we are right. But I guess if we are, that means things got a lot worse, which is even worse than a near suicidal football decision. If the season goes off without a hitch, I think we may be forced back to the CAA. Which may be Woods plan all along. Blame that on the virus.

(08-10-2020 10:19 PM)monarx Wrote:  It’s kind of embarrassing to be the only school not playing. It may wind up being the right choice, but it sucks right now. I hope we are right. But I guess if we are, that means things got a lot worse, which is even worse than a near suicidal football decision. If the season goes off without a hitch, I think we may be forced back to the CAA. Which may be Woods plan all along. Blame that on the virus.

That seems extremely unlikely. I think if anything, schools losing money that are playing in front of limited crowds are more likely to drop to FCS. I think making a health-conscious decision is not going to be embarrassing unless COVID is cured between now and opening day.

(08-10-2020 10:28 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 10:19 PM)monarx Wrote:  It’s kind of embarrassing to be the only school not playing. It may wind up being the right choice, but it sucks right now. I hope we are right. But I guess if we are, that means things got a lot worse, which is even worse than a near suicidal football decision. If the season goes off without a hitch, I think we may be forced back to the CAA. Which may be Woods plan all along. Blame that on the virus.

That seems extremely unlikely. I think if anything, schools losing money that are playing in front of limited crowds are more likely to drop to FCS. I think making a health-conscious decision is not going to be embarrassing unless COVID is cured between now and opening day.

Other than travel, and stadium ops, all the other costs are fixed. Coaches, stipends, scholarships, equipment. I have to believe we will be asked to give up our $500k media share, and may be asked to pay buyouts to teams we don’t play. Not playing could be even more expensive.

(08-10-2020 09:31 PM)monarx Wrote:  Looks like the Big 10 is waffling and may play after all. Twitter is saying they may delay rather than cancel now. AAC also saying they will play. Man, I hope we didn’t screw this up. Though I guess if we are still practicing. We could change our minds. Also. Do we now owe WF and the CUSA schools buy outs for not following through with our games since they’re playing?

Why not come to a consensus? ODU should cancel only if everyone does. This is what angers me. ODU fans will be at home watching their CUSA mates on TV and saying WTF did we do this for. I'm not the only one who was looking forward to this season. And now we're looking at 18 months without football.

The NCAA should add a new rule that allows immediate transfer eligibility for disenfranchised athletes from programs that cancel while its' sponsoring conference continues to play. Make no mistake, there are ODU athletes who are dissapointed by this decision. They're just towing the company line right now.

A former Norfolk resident may have twisted Brodericks' arm into cancelling the season. I'm wondering if politics was involved in this decision.

Good luck to CUSA, the AAC and the Sun Belt for committing to the 2020 season.

(08-10-2020 09:49 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 09:15 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 09:11 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 09:03 PM)Sithlord Wrote:  Does anyone think that ODU’s decision to cancel was partly due to the fact of the limit of 50 people for gatherings here in Hampton Roads?

Also, with the season being cancelled, what happens to the years of eligibility for current players?

1. Probably didn't help, though I doubt there was ever going to be clearance for crowds of more than, say, 500 this year.

2. That's a good question. If a substantial fall football season takes place, who knows if the NCAA will allow the conscientious objecters another year of redshirts. On the other hand, they look bad if they punish schools for making decisions in the best interest of the health of their players and coaches and school just because a bunch of schools in hotspots went forth as though little had changed.

Our minor league soccer team is allowing 1,000 at the small football stadium at York High School.

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Does that carry for Southside? I know Richmond's minor-league soccer team also caps at 1,000. I presumed Norfolk/Virginia Beach would be more strict with the higher case numbers.

Not 100% sure, but I believe York County is part of Hampton Roads with the additional restrictions.

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(08-11-2020 04:04 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 09:31 PM)monarx Wrote:  Looks like the Big 10 is waffling and may play after all. Twitter is saying they may delay rather than cancel now. AAC also saying they will play. Man, I hope we didn’t screw this up. Though I guess if we are still practicing. We could change our minds. Also. Do we now owe WF and the CUSA schools buy outs for not following through with our games since they’re playing?

Why not come to a consensus? ODU should cancel only if everyone does. This is what angers me. ODU fans will be at home watching their CUSA mates on TV and saying WTF did we do this for. I'm not the only one who was looking forward to this season. And now we're looking at 18 months without football.

The NCAA should add a new rule that allows immediate transfer eligibility for disenfranchised athletes from programs that cancel while its' sponsoring conference continues to play. Make no mistake, there are ODU athletes who are dissapointed by this decision. They're just towing the company line right now.

A former Norfolk resident may have twisted Brodericks' arm into cancelling the season. I'm wondering if politics was involved in this decision.

Good luck to CUSA, the AAC and the Sun Belt for committing to the 2020 season.

I think the only one getting their panties in a wad over the politics surrounding the issue is you.

(08-11-2020 06:26 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 04:04 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 09:31 PM)monarx Wrote:  Looks like the Big 10 is waffling and may play after all. Twitter is saying they may delay rather than cancel now. AAC also saying they will play. Man, I hope we didn’t screw this up. Though I guess if we are still practicing. We could change our minds. Also. Do we now owe WF and the CUSA schools buy outs for not following through with our games since they’re playing?

Why not come to a consensus? ODU should cancel only if everyone does. This is what angers me. ODU fans will be at home watching their CUSA mates on TV and saying WTF did we do this for. I'm not the only one who was looking forward to this season. And now we're looking at 18 months without football.

The NCAA should add a new rule that allows immediate transfer eligibility for disenfranchised athletes from programs that cancel while its' sponsoring conference continues to play. Make no mistake, there are ODU athletes who are dissapointed by this decision. They're just towing the company line right now.

A former Norfolk resident may have twisted Brodericks' arm into cancelling the season. I'm wondering if politics was involved in this decision.

Good luck to CUSA, the AAC and the Sun Belt for committing to the 2020 season.

I think the only one getting their panties in a wad over the politics surrounding the issue is you.

Political interference in these cancellations are being discussed on various forums and social media so it's not just me. There are agendas to be met. Stop being offended. This was a horrible decision by this school and we're being laughed at. No one in the conference is following our lead. Doesn't that make you embarrassed?

Who cares what other schools think? Why don't YOU stop being so offended. The school, not just Selig, did what it thought right, spurred in part I believe by the numbers in HR.

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Calling it as I see it:
The biggest factor in this decision was money, both on the operating costs and the liability exposure. I don't have a problem with that. Wake likely asked to flip the home and home series sites, meaning we wouldn't have gotten a payday to get us through the season.

The players are not protected much more in society than they would be practicing and playing with people being constantly tested. So let's limit the talk about "safety" to what it truly is.

So when you look at the differences in money and the differences in safety, the money equation has the biggest delta. It is what it is.

The final chapter is far from being written.I still seriously doubt the other conferences play, and if they begin the season and have to stop mid way thru due to increased illnesses, they will really look stupid.

(08-11-2020 06:30 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 06:26 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 04:04 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 09:31 PM)monarx Wrote:  Looks like the Big 10 is waffling and may play after all. Twitter is saying they may delay rather than cancel now. AAC also saying they will play. Man, I hope we didn’t screw this up. Though I guess if we are still practicing. We could change our minds. Also. Do we now owe WF and the CUSA schools buy outs for not following through with our games since they’re playing?

Why not come to a consensus? ODU should cancel only if everyone does. This is what angers me. ODU fans will be at home watching their CUSA mates on TV and saying WTF did we do this for. I'm not the only one who was looking forward to this season. And now we're looking at 18 months without football.

The NCAA should add a new rule that allows immediate transfer eligibility for disenfranchised athletes from programs that cancel while its' sponsoring conference continues to play. Make no mistake, there are ODU athletes who are dissapointed by this decision. They're just towing the company line right now.

A former Norfolk resident may have twisted Brodericks' arm into cancelling the season. I'm wondering if politics was involved in this decision.

Good luck to CUSA, the AAC and the Sun Belt for committing to the 2020 season.

I think the only one getting their panties in a wad over the politics surrounding the issue is you.

Political interference in these cancellations are being discussed on various forums and social media so it's not just me. There are agendas to be met. Stop being offended. This was a horrible decision by this school and we're being laughed at. No one in the conference is following our lead. Doesn't that make you embarrassed?

No.

(08-11-2020 04:04 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 09:31 PM)monarx Wrote:  Looks like the Big 10 is waffling and may play after all. Twitter is saying they may delay rather than cancel now. AAC also saying they will play. Man, I hope we didn’t screw this up. Though I guess if we are still practicing. We could change our minds. Also. Do we now owe WF and the CUSA schools buy outs for not following through with our games since they’re playing?

Why not come to a consensus? ODU should cancel only if everyone does. This is what angers me. ODU fans will be at home watching their CUSA mates on TV and saying WTF did we do this for. I'm not the only one who was looking forward to this season. And now we're looking at 18 months without football.

The NCAA should add a new rule that allows immediate transfer eligibility for disenfranchised athletes from programs that cancel while its' sponsoring conference continues to play. Make no mistake, there are ODU athletes who are dissapointed by this decision. They're just towing the company line right now.

A former Norfolk resident may have twisted Brodericks' arm into cancelling the season. I'm wondering if politics was involved in this decision.

Good luck to CUSA, the AAC and the Sun Belt for committing to the 2020 season.

This is obviously what we get when our great liberal colleges produce the greatest thinkers and minds our country has ever had LMAO

VB Monarch..."Our great liberal colleges and universities, that encourage outside the box thinking, are largely responsible for producing some of the greatest thinkers and minds our country has ever had."

Sweet.

(08-11-2020 06:42 AM)bench jockey Wrote:  Who cares what other schools think? Why don't YOU stop being so offended. The school, not just Selig, did what it thought right, spurred in part I believe by the numbers in HR.

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They started practice on the 6th. They also agreed to play Wake Forest this season on the same day. So what happened within that 5 day period. Was there a spike in Covid infections? No there wasn't.

ODU football will now travel to Wake Forest for 2020 game

(08-11-2020 06:59 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 06:30 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 06:26 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 04:04 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 09:31 PM)monarx Wrote:  Looks like the Big 10 is waffling and may play after all. Twitter is saying they may delay rather than cancel now. AAC also saying they will play. Man, I hope we didn’t screw this up. Though I guess if we are still practicing. We could change our minds. Also. Do we now owe WF and the CUSA schools buy outs for not following through with our games since they’re playing?

Why not come to a consensus? ODU should cancel only if everyone does. This is what angers me. ODU fans will be at home watching their CUSA mates on TV and saying WTF did we do this for. I'm not the only one who was looking forward to this season. And now we're looking at 18 months without football.

The NCAA should add a new rule that allows immediate transfer eligibility for disenfranchised athletes from programs that cancel while its' sponsoring conference continues to play. Make no mistake, there are ODU athletes who are dissapointed by this decision. They're just towing the company line right now.

A former Norfolk resident may have twisted Brodericks' arm into cancelling the season. I'm wondering if politics was involved in this decision.

Good luck to CUSA, the AAC and the Sun Belt for committing to the 2020 season.

I think the only one getting their panties in a wad over the politics surrounding the issue is you.

Political interference in these cancellations are being discussed on various forums and social media so it's not just me. There are agendas to be met. Stop being offended. This was a horrible decision by this school and we're being laughed at. No one in the conference is following our lead. Doesn't that make you embarrassed?

No.

Well, good luck then. Obviously not watching your team play for 18 months doesn't bother you. For most of us rabid fans, it does. We'll just have to sit and watch our CUSA league play at home in embarrassment.

(08-11-2020 07:07 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 06:59 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 06:30 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 06:26 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 04:04 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  Why not come to a consensus? ODU should cancel only if everyone does. This is what angers me. ODU fans will be at home watching their CUSA mates on TV and saying WTF did we do this for. I'm not the only one who was looking forward to this season. And now we're looking at 18 months without football.

The NCAA should add a new rule that allows immediate transfer eligibility for disenfranchised athletes from programs that cancel while its' sponsoring conference continues to play. Make no mistake, there are ODU athletes who are dissapointed by this decision. They're just towing the company line right now.

A former Norfolk resident may have twisted Brodericks' arm into cancelling the season. I'm wondering if politics was involved in this decision.

Good luck to CUSA, the AAC and the Sun Belt for committing to the 2020 season.

I think the only one getting their panties in a wad over the politics surrounding the issue is you.

Political interference in these cancellations are being discussed on various forums and social media so it's not just me. There are agendas to be met. Stop being offended. This was a horrible decision by this school and we're being laughed at. No one in the conference is following our lead. Doesn't that make you embarrassed?

No.

Well, good luck then. Obviously not watching your team play for 18 months doesn't bother you. For most of us rabid fans, it does.

I consider myself as rabid a fan as any Monarch, but my sole priority in life is not limited to just watching ODU Football. There are some things more important than sports and I would consider public health and safety in the midst of a global pandemic to be one of them.

(08-11-2020 07:21 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  Well, good luck then. Obviously not watching your team play for 18 months doesn't bother you. For most of us rabid fans, it does. We'll just have to sit and watch our CUSA team play at home in embarrassment.

I've never really felt embarrassment while watching a train-wreck, but to each their own.

(08-11-2020 07:22 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 07:07 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 06:59 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 06:30 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 06:26 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I think the only one getting their panties in a wad over the politics surrounding the issue is you.

Political interference in these cancellations are being discussed on various forums and social media so it's not just me. There are agendas to be met. Stop being offended. This was a horrible decision by this school and we're being laughed at. No one in the conference is following our lead. Doesn't that make you embarrassed?

No.

Well, good luck then. Obviously not watching your team play for 18 months doesn't bother you. For most of us rabid fans, it does.

I consider myself as rabid a fan as any Monarch, but my sole priority in life is not limited to just watching ODU Football. There are some things more important than sports and I would consider public health and safety in the midst of a global pandemic to be one of them.

I doubt you would have protested had ODU decided to go on with its' season.

And that train wreck you speak of just happened on Hampton Blvd not CUSA.

(08-11-2020 07:35 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 07:22 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 07:07 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 06:59 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 06:30 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  Political interference in these cancellations are being discussed on various forums and social media so it's not just me. There are agendas to be met. Stop being offended. This was a horrible decision by this school and we're being laughed at. No one in the conference is following our lead. Doesn't that make you embarrassed?

No.

Well, good luck then. Obviously not watching your team play for 18 months doesn't bother you. For most of us rabid fans, it does.

I consider myself as rabid a fan as any Monarch, but my sole priority in life is not limited to just watching ODU Football. There are some things more important than sports and I would consider public health and safety in the midst of a global pandemic to be one of them.

I doubt you would have protested had ODU decided to go on with its' season.

And that train wreck you speak of just happened on Hampton Blvd not CUSA.

Dude don't say stuff like that, for a second there I thought there was an actual literal train wreck right at the Hampton Blvd/Terminal Blvd intersection. Took me a sec before I realized it was just a feeble attempt at a comeback.

To answer your first point, I would not have been happy if we had continued on with the season and I was considering withholding my annual donation if we did. But I will say I certainly wouldn't be throwing the hissy fit that /some/ posters have decided to throw.

Harry Minium:
"ODU is going to lose money by not playing: gate receipts, seat memberships, etc. ODU isn't playing a money game, like most of the MAC is. This wasn't about money. It was all about taking care of the athletes."

Dear Harry,
I'm not buying this. Show your work. Convince me with figures.
What's the cost of travel for each away game? Our first away game at Jacksonville reportedly cost something like $72k. It's probably at least double that now.
What gate receipts? Wouldn't there be a limit on the number of fans in attendance?
What's the cost for home game setups both inside and outside of the stadium?