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(11-08-2019 08:37 AM)82hawk Wrote:  This has to be one of the oddest point spreads ever put together. People aren't betting on how bad we would lose to a far superior UNC squad and coach. They are betting on how bad Roy will allow the beating to be against his former and long time assistant coach and friend.
I wonder if it would ever make sense to allow bets for the margin with a certain amount of time left in anticipated blowouts. I don't just mean in Men's Basketball. I'm also including 42-0 halftime leads in Football when the final margin of 49 or 52 didn't go up much in the second half.

The overall Sagarin is close to the line with a difference of 24.10. I don't know if KenPom provides a home court advantage value, but if you use the home court advantage from the Sagarin, KenPom gives a margin of 29.93.
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(11-08-2019 09:18 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:37 AM)82hawk Wrote:  This has to be one of the oddest point spreads ever put together. People aren't betting on how bad we would lose to a far superior UNC squad and coach. They are betting on how bad Roy will allow the beating to be against his former and long time assistant coach and friend.

Remember the days when we went into a game like this with a realistic shot to shock the world?

Playing a team that is legit top 10 and should probably be in the top 5? Are you referencing a few years ago when we had a halftime lead on Duke in the tournament?
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Sagarin means nothing at this point my man. You know this....
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(11-08-2019 09:48 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:18 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:37 AM)82hawk Wrote:  This has to be one of the oddest point spreads ever put together. People aren't betting on how bad we would lose to a far superior UNC squad and coach. They are betting on how bad Roy will allow the beating to be against his former and long time assistant coach and friend.

Remember the days when we went into a game like this with a realistic shot to shock the world?

Playing a team that is legit top 10 and should probably be in the top 5? Are you referencing a few years ago when we had a halftime lead on Duke in the tournament?
Not just those years, years with Brownell and Wainright. We knew we could keep those types of teams close and have a realistic chance of pulling off the upset. Wasn't trying to compare apples to apples, just good P5's that we actually had a shot against.
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(11-08-2019 09:48 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:18 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:37 AM)82hawk Wrote:  This has to be one of the oddest point spreads ever put together. People aren't betting on how bad we would lose to a far superior UNC squad and coach. They are betting on how bad Roy will allow the beating to be against his former and long time assistant coach and friend.

Remember the days when we went into a game like this with a realistic shot to shock the world?

Playing a team that is legit top 10 and should probably be in the top 5? Are you referencing a few years ago when we had a halftime lead on Duke in the tournament?

The term "shock the world" indicates a huge upset. But, we have had years were we looked at this as an opportunity to actually "shock the world". The fans, players and coaches all thought "these guys don't realize what they're getting into". And if we were overlooked or looked past, an upset was at least possible. Does anyone think there is even a 1% chance we "shock the world" tonight?

Also, not sure why you think they are top 10 or top 5 already. They beat Notre Dame, not Kansas. Let's see how the season plays out.
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(11-07-2019 02:47 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Who is actually subscribing to Flo to watch?



The University if doing a free showing on the lawn. I might take the boys

I went ahead and subscribed, but i'll be at Trask tonight. Also, it's going to be in the 30's around game time. Not sure a spot on the lawn is the place to be tonight....
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(11-08-2019 10:36 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:48 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:18 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:37 AM)82hawk Wrote:  This has to be one of the oddest point spreads ever put together. People aren't betting on how bad we would lose to a far superior UNC squad and coach. They are betting on how bad Roy will allow the beating to be against his former and long time assistant coach and friend.

Remember the days when we went into a game like this with a realistic shot to shock the world?

Playing a team that is legit top 10 and should probably be in the top 5? Are you referencing a few years ago when we had a halftime lead on Duke in the tournament?

The term "shock the world" indicates a huge upset. But, we have had years were we looked at this as an opportunity to actually "shock the world". The fans, players and coaches all thought "these guys don't realize what they're getting into". And if we were overlooked or looked past, an upset was at least possible. Does anyone think there is even a 1% chance we "shock the world" tonight?

Also, not sure why you think they are top 10 or top 5 already. They beat Notre Dame, not Kansas. Let's see how the season plays out.

Simple really why I think they are top 10 right now. Most notably, because they're actually ranked #9 and have a conference win under their belt in their opener. Yes, they beat ND not Kansas. Appreciate your stellar analysis there. Out of the current top 5, I would say Louisville has the least chance of staying there and Carolina usually stays in the top 10, so they have a legit shot at top 5 this year. They're a good team.

I'm not sure why you chose to take this shot at me for that simple statement, but... have a good day.
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(11-08-2019 10:37 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 02:47 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Who is actually subscribing to Flo to watch?



The University if doing a free showing on the lawn. I might take the boys

I went ahead and subscribed, but i'll be at Trask tonight. Also, it's going to be in the 30's around game time. Not sure a spot on the lawn is the place to be tonight....

You could make money on the UNC board selling your login 04-cheers

Youre right on top of campus being incredibly crowded tonight it will be freezing.
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(11-08-2019 10:50 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 10:36 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:48 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:18 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:37 AM)82hawk Wrote:  This has to be one of the oddest point spreads ever put together. People aren't betting on how bad we would lose to a far superior UNC squad and coach. They are betting on how bad Roy will allow the beating to be against his former and long time assistant coach and friend.

Remember the days when we went into a game like this with a realistic shot to shock the world?

Playing a team that is legit top 10 and should probably be in the top 5? Are you referencing a few years ago when we had a halftime lead on Duke in the tournament?

The term "shock the world" indicates a huge upset. But, we have had years were we looked at this as an opportunity to actually "shock the world". The fans, players and coaches all thought "these guys don't realize what they're getting into". And if we were overlooked or looked past, an upset was at least possible. Does anyone think there is even a 1% chance we "shock the world" tonight?

Also, not sure why you think they are top 10 or top 5 already. They beat Notre Dame, not Kansas. Let's see how the season plays out.

Simple really why I think they are top 10 right now. Most notably, because they're actually ranked #9 and have a conference win under their belt in their opener. Yes, they beat ND not Kansas. Appreciate your stellar analysis there. Out of the current top 5, I would say Louisville has the least chance of staying there and Carolina usually stays in the top 10, so they have a legit shot at top 5 this year. They're a good team.

I'm not sure why you chose to take this shot at me for that simple statement, but... have a good day.

It wasn't taking a shot, it's a discussion board. If you think that's taking a shot, you've got some thin skin....(that was a shot...04-cheers)
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Flo's website says they allow up to 12 simultaneous streams. 5 people at $10/ person would cover basketball season. My PM box is open
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(11-08-2019 11:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 10:50 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 10:36 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:48 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:18 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Remember the days when we went into a game like this with a realistic shot to shock the world?

Playing a team that is legit top 10 and should probably be in the top 5? Are you referencing a few years ago when we had a halftime lead on Duke in the tournament?

The term "shock the world" indicates a huge upset. But, we have had years were we looked at this as an opportunity to actually "shock the world". The fans, players and coaches all thought "these guys don't realize what they're getting into". And if we were overlooked or looked past, an upset was at least possible. Does anyone think there is even a 1% chance we "shock the world" tonight?

Also, not sure why you think they are top 10 or top 5 already. They beat Notre Dame, not Kansas. Let's see how the season plays out.

Simple really why I think they are top 10 right now. Most notably, because they're actually ranked #9 and have a conference win under their belt in their opener. Yes, they beat ND not Kansas. Appreciate your stellar analysis there. Out of the current top 5, I would say Louisville has the least chance of staying there and Carolina usually stays in the top 10, so they have a legit shot at top 5 this year. They're a good team.

I'm not sure why you chose to take this shot at me for that simple statement, but... have a good day.

It wasn't taking a shot, it's a discussion board. If you think that's taking a shot, you've got some thin skin....(that was a shot...04-cheers)

I wasn't offended, probably just a poor choice of words (I hadn't had coffee yet at that point). I was mostly just confused why you think they aren't a top 10 team. lol
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(11-08-2019 11:11 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Flo's website says they allow up to 12 simultaneous streams. 5 people at $10/ person would cover basketball season. My PM box is open

I'm in if there are three others that want to get in on this.
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(11-08-2019 10:36 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:48 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:18 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:37 AM)82hawk Wrote:  This has to be one of the oddest point spreads ever put together. People aren't betting on how bad we would lose to a far superior UNC squad and coach. They are betting on how bad Roy will allow the beating to be against his former and long time assistant coach and friend.

Remember the days when we went into a game like this with a realistic shot to shock the world?

Playing a team that is legit top 10 and should probably be in the top 5? Are you referencing a few years ago when we had a halftime lead on Duke in the tournament?

The term "shock the world" indicates a huge upset. But, we have had years were we looked at this as an opportunity to actually "shock the world". The fans, players and coaches all thought "these guys don't realize what they're getting into". And if we were overlooked or looked past, an upset was at least possible. Does anyone think there is even a 1% chance we "shock the world" tonight?

Also, not sure why you think they are top 10 or top 5 already. They beat Notre Dame, not Kansas. Let's see how the season plays out.

FWIW... ESPN BPI gives us a 15.2 % chance to "shock the world"
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(11-08-2019 12:29 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 11:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 10:50 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 10:36 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:48 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Playing a team that is legit top 10 and should probably be in the top 5? Are you referencing a few years ago when we had a halftime lead on Duke in the tournament?

The term "shock the world" indicates a huge upset. But, we have had years were we looked at this as an opportunity to actually "shock the world". The fans, players and coaches all thought "these guys don't realize what they're getting into". And if we were overlooked or looked past, an upset was at least possible. Does anyone think there is even a 1% chance we "shock the world" tonight?

Also, not sure why you think they are top 10 or top 5 already. They beat Notre Dame, not Kansas. Let's see how the season plays out.

Simple really why I think they are top 10 right now. Most notably, because they're actually ranked #9 and have a conference win under their belt in their opener. Yes, they beat ND not Kansas. Appreciate your stellar analysis there. Out of the current top 5, I would say Louisville has the least chance of staying there and Carolina usually stays in the top 10, so they have a legit shot at top 5 this year. They're a good team.

I'm not sure why you chose to take this shot at me for that simple statement, but... have a good day.

It wasn't taking a shot, it's a discussion board. If you think that's taking a shot, you've got some thin skin....(that was a shot...04-cheers)

I wasn't offended, probably just a poor choice of words (I hadn't had coffee yet at that point). I was mostly just confused why you think they aren't a top 10 team. lol

I'm just not sure if they are or they aren't. It took an out of this world game from Anthony to beat Notre Dame. Preseason rankings don't mean a whole lot when they have an ACC schedule in front of them. They could stay on top, but who knows?
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(11-08-2019 02:01 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 12:29 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 11:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 10:50 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 10:36 AM)82hawk Wrote:  The term "shock the world" indicates a huge upset. But, we have had years were we looked at this as an opportunity to actually "shock the world". The fans, players and coaches all thought "these guys don't realize what they're getting into". And if we were overlooked or looked past, an upset was at least possible. Does anyone think there is even a 1% chance we "shock the world" tonight?

Also, not sure why you think they are top 10 or top 5 already. They beat Notre Dame, not Kansas. Let's see how the season plays out.

Simple really why I think they are top 10 right now. Most notably, because they're actually ranked #9 and have a conference win under their belt in their opener. Yes, they beat ND not Kansas. Appreciate your stellar analysis there. Out of the current top 5, I would say Louisville has the least chance of staying there and Carolina usually stays in the top 10, so they have a legit shot at top 5 this year. They're a good team.

I'm not sure why you chose to take this shot at me for that simple statement, but... have a good day.

It wasn't taking a shot, it's a discussion board. If you think that's taking a shot, you've got some thin skin....(that was a shot...04-cheers)

I wasn't offended, probably just a poor choice of words (I hadn't had coffee yet at that point). I was mostly just confused why you think they aren't a top 10 team. lol

I'm just not sure if they are or they aren't. It took an out of this world game from Anthony to beat Notre Dame. Preseason rankings don't mean a whole lot when they have an ACC schedule in front of them. They could stay on top, but who knows?

Yeah. That's fair. I'm actually wondering why the ACC decided to start the season with several teams playing conference opponents. Interesting approach.
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(11-08-2019 02:11 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 02:01 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 12:29 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 11:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 10:50 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Simple really why I think they are top 10 right now. Most notably, because they're actually ranked #9 and have a conference win under their belt in their opener. Yes, they beat ND not Kansas. Appreciate your stellar analysis there. Out of the current top 5, I would say Louisville has the least chance of staying there and Carolina usually stays in the top 10, so they have a legit shot at top 5 this year. They're a good team.

I'm not sure why you chose to take this shot at me for that simple statement, but... have a good day.

It wasn't taking a shot, it's a discussion board. If you think that's taking a shot, you've got some thin skin....(that was a shot...04-cheers)

I wasn't offended, probably just a poor choice of words (I hadn't had coffee yet at that point). I was mostly just confused why you think they aren't a top 10 team. lol

I'm just not sure if they are or they aren't. It took an out of this world game from Anthony to beat Notre Dame. Preseason rankings don't mean a whole lot when they have an ACC schedule in front of them. They could stay on top, but who knows?

Yeah. That's fair. I'm actually wondering why the ACC decided to start the season with several teams playing conference opponents. Interesting approach.

They got that fancy new ACC network that needs to ensure distribution
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(11-08-2019 02:15 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 02:11 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 02:01 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 12:29 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 11:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  It wasn't taking a shot, it's a discussion board. If you think that's taking a shot, you've got some thin skin....(that was a shot...04-cheers)

I wasn't offended, probably just a poor choice of words (I hadn't had coffee yet at that point). I was mostly just confused why you think they aren't a top 10 team. lol

I'm just not sure if they are or they aren't. It took an out of this world game from Anthony to beat Notre Dame. Preseason rankings don't mean a whole lot when they have an ACC schedule in front of them. They could stay on top, but who knows?

Yeah. That's fair. I'm actually wondering why the ACC decided to start the season with several teams playing conference opponents. Interesting approach.

They got that fancy new ACC network that needs to ensure distribution

I'm stuck with the PAC12 network out here, so hopefully they have some decent teams to watch as well. We'll see. I'll keep an eye on Stanford games.
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Where do you now live CG? West coast, that's crazy man. You've got to get back my man!
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(11-08-2019 03:02 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Where do you now live CG? West coast, that's crazy man. You've got to get back my man!

I'm currently in SE Arizona working for the Dept of Defense. Still in the CG, but playing a bit of a different role right now.
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