Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
UMKC going to Summit
Author Message
Bookmark and Share
SDHornet Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 444
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 7
I Root For: Sac State
Location:
Post: #41
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-21-2019 11:19 PM)Johnny Crunch Wrote:  Really need a NW team (Portland st) to match w Seattle and a south Texas (UIW or, should Southland require football of everyone, A&M Corpus) to go with RGV. Do that, and WAC can stabilize. Otherwise, NMSU & GCU need to hold their noses and find a landing spot possibly as a package.

PSU has no baseball or MSoc. PSU would not help the WAC one bit.


Seriously people, do more than just look at a map and see what geographically fits.
06-21-2019 11:26 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Johnny Crunch Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 34
Joined: May 2019
Reputation: 0
I Root For: NMSU
Location:
Post: #42
UMKC going to Summit
Thinking hoops to preserve the autobid. Dont give two shxts about baseball or MSoc
06-21-2019 11:28 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
SDHornet Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 444
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 7
I Root For: Sac State
Location:
Post: #43
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-21-2019 11:28 PM)Johnny Crunch Wrote:  Thinking hoops to preserve the autobid. Dont give two shxts about baseball or MSoc

The autobid isn't in question, so why is this even an issue?
06-21-2019 11:31 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
NoDak Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,565
Joined: Oct 2005
Reputation: 94
I Root For: UND
Location:
Post: #44
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-21-2019 11:19 PM)Johnny Crunch Wrote:  Really need a NW team (Portland st) to match w Seattle and a south Texas (UIW or, should Southland require football of everyone, A&M Corpus) to go with RGV. Do that, and WAC can stabilize. Otherwise, NMSU & GCU need to hold their noses and find a landing spot possibly as a package.

NMSU and GCU will be fine, as will UTRGV and CBU.

Have often said that the WAC having the right to offer FBS to new schools is looked on so envied by FCS ones, but that’s been ridiculed. Sam Houston St, Lamar, and maybe Incarnate Word would jump tomorrow if they had a chance, providing Chicago St, Seattle, Dixie St and Utah Valley are disposed of. Cal Poly, Sac St, and UCDavis would also move over. Also, Missouri St, Wichita St and UTRGV would be a part of WAC FBS.

NMSU wouldn’t have to play the FBS transitionals until after they are fully FBS.
06-21-2019 11:38 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
SDHornet Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 444
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 7
I Root For: Sac State
Location:
Post: #45
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-21-2019 11:38 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(06-21-2019 11:19 PM)Johnny Crunch Wrote:  Really need a NW team (Portland st) to match w Seattle and a south Texas (UIW or, should Southland require football of everyone, A&M Corpus) to go with RGV. Do that, and WAC can stabilize. Otherwise, NMSU & GCU need to hold their noses and find a landing spot possibly as a package.

NMSU and GCU will be fine, as will UTRGV and CBU.

Have often said that the WAC having the right to offer FBS to new schools is looked on so envied by FCS ones, but that’s been ridiculed. Sam Houston St, Lamar, and maybe Incarnate Word would jump tomorrow if they had a chance, providing Chicago St, Seattle, Dixie St and Utah Valley are disposed of. Cal Poly, Sac St, and UCDavis would also move over. Also, Missouri St, Wichita St and UTRGV would be a part of WAC FBS.

NMSU wouldn’t have to play the FBS transitionals until after they are fully FBS.

That's a lot of movement to make WAC FBS a reality...but to your credit it's less movement needed compared to your GNC movement so you have that going for you here.
06-21-2019 11:47 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
NoDak Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,565
Joined: Oct 2005
Reputation: 94
I Root For: UND
Location:
Post: #46
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-21-2019 11:31 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(06-21-2019 11:28 PM)Johnny Crunch Wrote:  Thinking hoops to preserve the autobid. Dont give two shxts about baseball or MSoc

The autobid isn't in question, so why is this even an issue?

It is if the WAC doesn’t have seven fully DI teams, which it doesn’t meet now, and if it doesn’t have fb as a conference sport.
06-21-2019 11:49 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
SDHornet Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 444
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 7
I Root For: Sac State
Location:
Post: #47
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-21-2019 11:49 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(06-21-2019 11:31 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(06-21-2019 11:28 PM)Johnny Crunch Wrote:  Thinking hoops to preserve the autobid. Dont give two shxts about baseball or MSoc

The autobid isn't in question, so why is this even an issue?

It is if the WAC doesn’t have seven fully DI teams, which it doesn’t meet now, and if it doesn’t have fb as a conference sport.

We've been over this. The WAC isn't losing it's autobid. Bank it.
06-21-2019 11:59 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
RoosHouse Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 387
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 0
I Root For: UMKC
Location:
Post: #48
RE: UMKC going to Summit
Have you seen how they call UMKC tournament games? WAC has known and had time to prepare. Going to miss the WAC but if NMSU maintains the jump they made last year, there will be no competitive balance in WAC.
06-22-2019 10:27 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Johnny Crunch Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 34
Joined: May 2019
Reputation: 0
I Root For: NMSU
Location:
Post: #49
UMKC going to Summit
UConn allegedly announcing move back to BE for hoops only, football elsewhere. A butterfly flaps its wings...
06-22-2019 10:28 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
RoosHouse Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 387
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 0
I Root For: UMKC
Location:
Post: #50
RE: UMKC going to Summit
Maybe the WAC should have let KC host one year
06-22-2019 10:48 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
PojoaquePosse Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 468
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 14
I Root For: NMSU
Location:
Post: #51
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-21-2019 09:42 PM)NoDak Wrote:  My plan does that but it is vehemently opposed by 80% of posters.

My plan...what are you, the conference czar? So if we all supported “your plan”, it would magically come to fruition?

Mods, can we ban this dude?
06-22-2019 11:47 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
PojoaquePosse Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 468
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 14
I Root For: NMSU
Location:
Post: #52
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-22-2019 10:48 AM)RoosHouse Wrote:  Maybe the WAC should have let KC host one year

Maybe they didn’t on purpose so you would leave. Speaking of leaving, don’t feel like you have to wait till 7/1/20 to leave this board. You can leave sooner.

PS, I hope your new coach is working on FTs so the refs don’t determine the outcome of your games when you miss crucial ones late in the game...
06-22-2019 11:49 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
PojoaquePosse Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 468
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 14
I Root For: NMSU
Location:
Post: #53
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-22-2019 10:28 AM)Johnny Crunch Wrote:  UConn allegedly announcing move back to BE for hoops only, football elsewhere. A butterfly flaps its wings...

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...n-big-east

As the article states, they might have to go independent for FB since the Big East doesn’t sponsor that. Would give NMSU another potential scheduling partner for FB.
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2019 11:53 AM by PojoaquePosse.)
06-22-2019 11:52 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DoubleRSU Online
Special Teams
*

Posts: 877
Joined: Aug 2015
Reputation: 36
I Root For: SU, WAC, NAU
Location:
Post: #54
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-22-2019 10:48 AM)RoosHouse Wrote:  Maybe the WAC should have let KC host one year

Even though that was pretty crappy of the WAC to promise that and then not deliver, can you blame them? Having UMKC host it would have been a total embarrassment and the conference might have lost their spot in Vegas. UMKC and Chicago St can barely draw flies to their games, they wouldn’t have sold tickets to the WACT anyway.

Nobody is sad you’re leaving. UMKC is a crap program with no fans. You can join DU at the bottom on the Summit standings now.
06-22-2019 01:04 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
CrimsonPhantom Offline
Warden Of The WAC
*

Posts: 9,485
Joined: Mar 2013
Reputation: 740
I Root For: NM State
Location:
Post: #55
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-22-2019 01:04 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 10:48 AM)RoosHouse Wrote:  Maybe the WAC should have let KC host one year

Even though that was pretty crappy of the WAC to promise that and then not deliver, can you blame them? Having UMKC host it would have been a total embarrassment and the conference might have lost their spot in Vegas. UMKC and Chicago St can barely draw flies to their games, they wouldn’t have sold tickets to the WACT anyway.

Nobody is sad you’re leaving. UMKC is a crap program with no fans. You can join DU at the bottom on the Summit standings now.

Hurd is the one who said they'd have a chance to host the tournament. Now that there leaving I'm glad they never hosted a tournament. The WAC would've lost its slotted date for the tournament at the Orleans to another conference.
06-22-2019 02:53 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
NMSUPistolPete Online
1st String
*

Posts: 1,362
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 13
I Root For: NMSU
Location: AZ
Post: #56
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-22-2019 10:48 AM)RoosHouse Wrote:  Maybe the WAC should have let KC host one year

The WAC has a standing date with the Orleans Arena to play the WAC tourney there. Playing in KC would open up an opportunity for someone else to occupy the Orleans Arena the weekend of the WAC tourney in the future. The WAC tourney is tied to the Orleans Arena until the WAC choses to move its' tourney away from Las Vegas permanently.
06-22-2019 02:59 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
SoCalBobcat78 Online
1st String
*

Posts: 1,794
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 63
I Root For: TXST, UCLA, CBU
Location:
Post: #57
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-22-2019 10:48 AM)RoosHouse Wrote:  Maybe the WAC should have let KC host one year

Why? You guys would just get eliminated in the first round on your home floor. UMKC could not win in the WAC. So you take a step down to the Summit and maybe you can win there. It costs you nothing to leave the WAC, it costs $1 million to leave the Summit. But AD Brandon Martin knows that you are not getting an invite to the MVC.

By the way, instead of a post-season tournament in Las Vegas, you get a post-season tournament in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. A Dakota school has won the tournament eight straight years. But now you get the bus trip games back. Enjoy the trips to Omaha, Tulsa and Macomb.
06-22-2019 03:04 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
cowboy737_e Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 2
Joined: Aug 2017
Reputation: 0
I Root For: NMSU
Location:
Post: #58
RE: UMKC going to Summit
Hurd should be on the line with the AD of the Air Force Academy just to let it be known that their Olympic Sports have a home if needed. Just makes too much sense!! It would have to be kept hush hush though as last time this happened it blew up in his face and MWC did a preemptive strike. Was not long ago that we were going to take Boise and I think San Diego St Olympic Sports and he countered with a death blow by inviting Nevada, Fresno, USU and Hawaii. I think San Jose St and BYU were also part of the preemptive strike with BYU ending up in the WCC after WAC expansion bottom fell off.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gazette.com...5.amp.html
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2019 06:04 PM by cowboy737_e.)
06-22-2019 05:55 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
jdgaucho Online
All American
*

Posts: 3,086
Joined: Nov 2012
Reputation: 41
I Root For: UCSB
Location: Big West Land
Post: #59
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-21-2019 11:31 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(06-21-2019 11:28 PM)Johnny Crunch Wrote:  Thinking hoops to preserve the autobid. Dont give two shxts about baseball or MSoc

The autobid isn't in question, so why is this even an issue?

The autobid is only in question if the WAC falls to 7. But it's worth remembering, a multisport conference that doesn't play football must sponsor men's basketball and at least two other male team sports - like baseball, men's soccer, hockey, water polo, etc. I don't think tennis and cross country count.

What I described above mostly applies to the Summit League though.
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2019 09:32 PM by jdgaucho.)
06-22-2019 09:31 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
RoosHouse Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 387
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 0
I Root For: UMKC
Location:
Post: #60
RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-22-2019 11:49 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 10:48 AM)RoosHouse Wrote:  Maybe the WAC should have let KC host one year

Maybe they didn’t on purpose so you would leave. Speaking of leaving, don’t feel like you have to wait till 7/1/20 to leave this board. You can leave sooner.

PS, I hope your new coach is working on FTs so the refs don’t determine the outcome of your games when you miss crucial ones late in the game...

The Elephant in the room is that NMSU is so different financially from a sports perspective from every other school in the WAC (Compare NMSU vs Chicago St) that it will continue to cause instability in the WAC until they can find a football conference to join.

The jump NMSU made this year in basketball was very impressive and they looked like a sweet 16 team if they had been paired against anyone but Auburn.

There is just no competitive balance when NMSU can recruit the way they are so there is little incentive to finance sports when the WAC is so top heavy.

I'll enjoy the WAC for one last year.
(This post was last modified: 06-23-2019 11:15 AM by RoosHouse.)
06-23-2019 11:14 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2020 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2020 MyBB Group.