(05-03-2019 10:27 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote: (05-03-2019 10:15 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: (05-03-2019 10:08 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote: (05-03-2019 09:50 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: (05-03-2019 09:00 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote: Hack. Coastal elite. Elitist. Hates America. Whiny. Beta. P***y. Cuck. Libtard. Snowflake. SJW.
I’ve seen many of those posted on this board to describe progressives. I’ve never seen anyone on this board actually use flyover in the way you suggest.
First, I will take credit for Beta. I coined the term specifically as a pun on Mr. O'Rourke's nickname, since I think he is the leading candidate for VP. Second place. Beta. Number two.
Get it? I have not used it for any other person and haven't noticed anybody else do it. It pleases me that you think it widespread. Thank you.
SJW. Isn't that the topic here? Eliminating a food purveyor because they don't like the charities they support? But if you consider SJW a pejorative, what phrase or word defines their position?
Snowflake. Who needs safe spaces? Who needs protection from being distressed?
\Coastal elite/elite. Elites think they are better than everyone else. Many of them are on the coasts, thus most of the safe Democratic states. If the shoe fits...
Hates America. Well, I think some do. Kaepernick would not stand for the anthem because the flag was a symbol of an oppressive nation. No Democrat's rose to defend the right's of people like me who were offended by that. I have trouble reconciling Rep. Omar's statements with a love for America. Democrats are defending those. I also have trouble with the choice of some of the left's targets. what is more American than Boy Scouts and church? I was never a Scout, and don't attend church, but my political views get me labeled. But in general, I would say that very few actually hate america - they just want to change it into Sweden or France. .
the rest i agree, they are largely or completely over the line - but I don't see them much here and rarely, if ever, use them myself. I have never heard a local liberal call me a deplorable - just your presidential nominee, a New York elite. I have never heard a local call me one who is afraid of people who "don't look like me, and bitterly clinging to my guns and religion" - that was the POTUS, and one of your most elite members, and one who was elite long before he was POTUS. There is just a general atmosphere of elitism in the Demo party, and the higher you go, the more it becomes apparent.
So what you're saying is that since you find these nicknames and slurs to be justifiable, they're ok?
I can certainly justify the deplorable comment, flyover comment, etc. But justification doesn't make the use of a demeaning term correct.
You justify the deplorable comment? To quote your friend JAAO, wow. But go ahead. this should be interesting.
What i am saying is that some of those are not slurs. What should I call people who fight for social justice if not SJW?
Do I justify it? No. Did you see me justify its use the way you did for my examples?
I clearly said I COULD justify it. So maybe read a little closer next time.
I see no difference in you determining those words are not slurs (even though they are used as such) and someone who would justify the use of the word deplorable. All instances are using terms to demean another group.
You've got to be incredibly naive if you think people using the term SJW are trying to describe, and not demean, someone who is working on social justice issues.
Well, lots of times the tone and usage matter. Somebody might call you "smart' in a way that is demeaning, or they might mean it as a compliment or just a description.
what term would you prefer I use? "person fighting for justice as he sees it
who thinks I am evil for not agreeing with him' seems incredibly unwieldy.
And calling me "incredibly naive' in a discussion of slurs seems a bit OTL. It sounds to me like a personal attack. I think maybe you are letting this get personal.
If you COULD justify it, that means you CAN. Please do so, or I shall assume you CANNOT. Personally, I wouldnot characterize half of Democrats as deplorable. Maybe half of their ideas.
To help you out, here it is:
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
Seems to depend a lot on phobias.
As for Beta, he choose to have a nickname. If I choose to run for office using the name "Honest John", I leave myself open to people making jokes, as I did with Beta. I think he is the front runner to balance the ticket with any nominee who is not a white male. He is an empty suit, but a nice smile, a good campaigner, a good fund raiser, and puts texas into play. what's not to like - as the second person on the ticket.