(05-03-2019 02:15 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 02:04 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 02:00 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 01:54 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  lad -- your 'original point' was that you 'can justify' the use of the word 'deplorable', and then proceeded to make a direct equivalence to the term 'SJW'.

To be blunt -- they might be equivalent as they are both 'meanie poo' words. But to equate 'beneath contempt' to *anything* that you might think SJW means is just pretty fing stupid.

And, if you had bothered to fing read, I had moved off of the 'best case' to a worse case, even though you are still arguing that 'best case' ****.

So yes, your direct equivalence that you 'can justify the use of the word 'deplorable' ' to that of 'SJW' doesnt even pass the fing smell test.

Your attempt to make them equivalent leaves me as gob-smacked as listening to Trump describing his inauguration as the 'largest ever'.

You are the one that is seemingly hell-bent in equating the two. So do you *really* fing think that 'utterly beneath contempt' is *really* equivalent to

Quote:implying that their motives are "for personal validation rather than out of any deep-seated conviction"

Wiki 'SJW'
If so, god fing help us. Good enough now, lad?

whatever....... sorry to ruin your fing rhetorical question that now I see it for what it is.

It wasn't rhetorical - you still haven't addressed what your point has been in trying to make the clear distinction that "deplorable" is worse than "SJW."

I guess you have utterly lost the ability to read.

Here is the short version: your direct equivalence of the two being equal in nature is idiotic. Even when both are meant to be demeaning.

Clear enough? Or should I cut out some words in those sentences for you?

(05-03-2019 11:57 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 11:52 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 10:33 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 10:11 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 10:05 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  I don't believe that Kaepernick hates America. Protesting injustice does not equate to hating America. Why would Democrats "rise to defend you because you were offended" by his not standing for the National Anthem? You see yourself as a victim in the Kaepernick saga?

Kaepernick said this is an oppressive country. Makes sense to me that one would hate a country in which one is oppressed. Not you?

I think that's a leap. You can not like things about the a country without "hating" the country.

Quote:I was commenting on all the people who said, and still say, I should not be offended by Kaepernick's characterization of America. Are you one of those people?

You can choose to be offended by whatever you want. He is upset about what he views as systemic racial injustice in this country. Is that offensive to you? Asking Democrats to "rise to defend you over it" is a bit much, IMO.

Silence implies that they think the same. protest says they think differently. I am being attacked by the left because I think america is not an oppressive count country. My right to disagree with Kaep has been attacked. Not a problem - I am used to my right to an opinion being attacked.

I think Kaep is wrong. You don't like it, tough for you. But I grew in a an america in which segregation was the law of the land, and there was real oppression for many minorities. I have watched decades of change. America today is not oppressive. Just my opinion, based on what I have seen and what I see. Feel free to go directly to the "White nationalist" card.

Certainly you are entitled to your opinion. In no way do I think your viewpoint makes you a white nationalist.

I assume that you are open to the idea that growing up in America might be different for a black male than it would be for one of your family members (assuming here that they are not black males)? Perhaps certain segments of the population sense oppression that you or your family doesn't?

Thank you.

Many of my family members are Hispanic. None are black, one is gay, and wonder of wonders, about half are female.

Yes, i think other segments can sense oppression, often oppression that isn't there.

For example, let's say I get pulled over for speeding. I drive away with my ticket thinking, that cop was sure an a-hole - surly and mean. I don't think he liked me.

Ten minutes later, he pulls over Kaepernick. Kaep drives away thinking that cop just hates blacks. Another driving while black ticket. I am tired of this oppression.

Is that the difference in perspective you are talking about?

Sure we all see things differently. What I don't see now that I saw when I was younger are things like segregated bathrooms, segregated waiting rooms, segregated housing, all-white schools, all white congresses, etc. I see blacks with memberships in every private club and country club, and I see blacks elected/appointed to the highest offices in the land. I played poker last night with black, Asian, and Hispanic people. Nobody excluded. Nobody seated at a separate table. That would not have happened 60 years ago.

I can see where the minorities of the 50's were oppressed. Not so much the minorities of 2019. I doubt Kaep has ever been refused anything based on his race.

Of course, there are prejudiced individuals. I don't think there is any systemic oppression by any government anymore, from municipalities up to the nation. JMHO. I don't doubt kaep "sees" systemic oppression. I just don't think it is real.

(05-03-2019 09:16 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 09:00 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Hack. Coastal elite. Elitist. Hates America. Whiny. Beta. P***y. Cuck. Libtard. Snowflake. SJW.

I’ve seen many of those posted on this board to describe progressives. I’ve never seen anyone on this board actually use flyover in the way you suggest.

Hack -- that is a bilateral slur.

Coastal Elite -- that is a slur? really? Hate to tell you I can name more than a few I would label 'elitists' from the right side as well.

Elitist -- see above.

Hates America -- Yeah, I'll give you that one. I'll add another related 'hates the Constitution'.

Whiny -- that tends to be a bilateral slur. I did not know that progressives were so touchy about that adjective (or associated noun, verb). Any particular reason that whin[] hits progressives in the gut in manner that you assert?

Beta -- I see that on other boards; not so much here. I'll give you that one.

P-word -- I think that would be more of a generic bilateral term.

Cuck -- see above

Snowflake -- I dont think this would really refer to progressives in general. Just the ones who go apeshit when they dont like certain 'bad' speech. And, to be honest, I have seen this applied to conservatives who might similarly go into the cereberal version of epilepsy when encountering their view of 'double ungood speak'.

SJW -- well, what else would you call a person whose goal in life is to make sure there is no sexism present in computer games?

Libtard -- ill spot you that one.

Bump.

(07-01-2019 10:51 AM)OwlJacket Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 09:16 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 09:00 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Hack. Coastal elite. Elitist. Hates America. Whiny. Beta. P***y. Cuck. Libtard. Snowflake. SJW.

I’ve seen many of those posted on this board to describe progressives. I’ve never seen anyone on this board actually use flyover in the way you suggest.

Hack -- that is a bilateral slur.

Coastal Elite -- that is a slur? really? Hate to tell you I can name more than a few I would label 'elitists' from the right side as well.

Elitist -- see above.

Hates America -- Yeah, I'll give you that one. I'll add another related 'hates the Constitution'.

Whiny -- that tends to be a bilateral slur. I did not know that progressives were so touchy about that adjective (or associated noun, verb). Any particular reason that whin[] hits progressives in the gut in manner that you assert?

Beta -- I see that on other boards; not so much here. I'll give you that one.

P-word -- I think that would be more of a generic bilateral term.

Cuck -- see above

Snowflake -- I dont think this would really refer to progressives in general. Just the ones who go apeshit when they dont like certain 'bad' speech. And, to be honest, I have seen this applied to conservatives who might similarly go into the cereberal version of epilepsy when encountering their view of 'double ungood speak'.

SJW -- well, what else would you call a person whose goal in life is to make sure there is no sexism present in computer games?

Libtard -- ill spot you that one.

Bump.

First: Lolz -- Had you bothered to read (as opposed to the drool level search, cut and paste that seems to be your methodology) I am agreeing that libtard is a slur there.

Second: I guess you are seemingly fixated on 'tanqtonic == OptimisticOwl'.

Do you have *any* fact processing skills there sparky? Or for that matter, *any* reading comprehension skills?

You are a gift that keeps on giving. When you get *any* basic fact correct, that might be a day for celebration.

Hopefully you bring a modicum more of analysis and processing into your professional life than the continued fixation on 'tanqtonic == OptimisticOwl', not to mention the absolute lack of comprehending what you pasted, seems to indicate.

George -- it seems your unhinge-o has found a new object of his Obsessive/Compulsive version of hyperactivity disorder. Except that this particular OC component doesnt seem to lend itself to worrying about or having correct facts.