The OER has been found painted on steam tunnel walls next to the burial crypts beneath Lovett Hall, and there may be a satanic ritual significance.

(02-05-2019 04:38 PM)Buho00 Wrote:  Could there possibly be a legal issue brewing over the OER? Does Wayne have a claim to it since he drew it up?

Very interesting speculation.

I have no idea, so I'm just scatter shooting, but it does make me wonder if perhaps the commissioning of, and subsequent move to, the new logos was somehow related to putting an end to Wayne's tenure.

I think I've made my position pretty clear. Rice has D1 athletics today because of Wayne Graham. On that basis, I would have been inclined to let him pick his own successor and do a farewell tour, rather than pulling the plug so quickly.

That being said, I like everything I've seen and heard about Bragga, and I wish him every success. I'd love to see Rice back in Omaha, starting this year.

But if we do make it to Omaha this year, even if we were to win it all, I would still not be happy with the way Wayne's situation was handled.

(02-05-2019 04:49 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 04:38 PM)Buho00 Wrote:  Could there possibly be a legal issue brewing over the OER? Does Wayne have a claim to it since he drew it up?

Very interesting speculation.

I have no idea, so I'm just scatter shooting, but it does make me wonder if perhaps the commissioning of, and subsequent move to, the new logos was somehow related to putting an end to Wayne's tenure.

I think I've made my position pretty clear. Rice has D1 athletics today because of Wayne Graham. On that basis, I would have been inclined to let him pick his own successor and do a farewell tour, rather than pulling the plug so quickly.

That being said, I like everything I've seen and heard about Bragga, and I wish him every success. I'd love to see Rice back in Omaha, starting this year.

But if we do make it to Omaha this year, even if we were to win it all, I would still not be happy with the way Wayne's situation was handled.

That's it, of course. The rebranding effort, including hiring consultants and changing logos at athletic facilities all over campus, was all a conspiracy centered on Wayne Graham. 'Course, they didn't actually get rid of the "R" itself. There must be some reason, wheels within wheels of this nefarious plot, why they kept the "R" after all.

(02-05-2019 11:10 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 10:59 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 10:50 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 10:17 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 10:06 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  Can the mods just change the title of this thread or something since people can’t seem to read the whole thing. The R doesn’t look like it’s going anywhere. It’s branded all over our athletic site and we have a reputable poster saying it’s staying on our baseball caps and helmet just the script is getting changed on the front of the jersey.

I think "Ridiculous, pointless thread, even by Parliament standards" would be a good title, except then people would be tempted to click out of curiosity.

Or maybe we could leave the title as is since this seems to be another poor decision by the athletic department. It is rather symbolic or the new guard trying to remove the past to make their own mark as our athletic program falls further and further. Such a typical response though. NPC through and through.

Looks like you already changed it once from “no more” to “going away”.

No need for quotes since I said "phased out". Regardless, that means that the old English style is on the way out and the new atrocious font is the branding going forward. Old English is no longer synonymous with the Rice brand. Just trying to stir the pot I guess?

So your original thread title was - The Old English "R" is No More. Sounds like a done deal, effective immediately, everybody can burn their hats, DaOwl can toss all his remaining Rs for cars.

Then it looks like Ham changed it to - Is The Old English "R" going away. Never known a moderator to change a thread title unless requested by the poster that created it, but OK. Not nearly as definitive a title.

Now you are saying you said "phased out". No timeframe, just something that will happen someday. Bob can keep his stash of Rs for cars, and we can all keep our OER hats...for now.

So which is it?

(02-05-2019 05:51 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 11:10 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 10:59 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 10:50 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 10:17 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  I think "Ridiculous, pointless thread, even by Parliament standards" would be a good title, except then people would be tempted to click out of curiosity.

Or maybe we could leave the title as is since this seems to be another poor decision by the athletic department. It is rather symbolic or the new guard trying to remove the past to make their own mark as our athletic program falls further and further. Such a typical response though. NPC through and through.

Looks like you already changed it once from “no more” to “going away”.

No need for quotes since I said "phased out". Regardless, that means that the old English style is on the way out and the new atrocious font is the branding going forward. Old English is no longer synonymous with the Rice brand. Just trying to stir the pot I guess?

So your original thread title was - The Old English "R" is No More. Sounds like a done deal, effective immediately, everybody can burn their hats, DaOwl can toss all his remaining Rs for cars.

Then it looks like Ham changed it to - Is The Old English "R" going away. Never known a moderator to change a thread title unless requested by the poster that created it, but OK. Not nearly as definitive a title.

Now you are saying you said "phased out". No timeframe, just something that will happen someday. Bob can keep his stash of Rs for cars, and we can all keep our OER hats...for now.

So which is it?

The original poster of a thread can edit the title without mod intervention.

Original post shows Ham made the modification, consistent with the original poster’s claim in a subsequent post. I too thought a title change was up to the poster that created it.

(02-05-2019 06:32 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Original post shows Ham made the modification, consistent with the original poster’s claim in a subsequent post. I too thought a title change was up to the poster that created it.

The poster that created it can modify it, but the mods can change/move etc. as deemed necessary. Some forums add RUMOR or SPECULATION to the original thread, some modify it to be not-misleading.

The new title seems more in line with reality - that this is speculation or an opinion. Especially in light of evidence being shown to counter the assertion.

Courier New is starting to grow on me.
Maybe Courier New Distressed.

(02-04-2019 09:34 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:15 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 02:58 PM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 02:52 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  I could be wrong... But this doesn’t seem like a Bragga decision to me... He has emphasized history and high expectations in all of his media appearances. Seems like this is coming from above him.

If true, one more negative to the Karlgaard regime.

That is what I was thinking. I haven't been a fan of the updated owl either. Not to sure what they would put on the hat now...perhaps....and R in courier new?

Wingding

Courier is for Pigeons

Carrier or passenger?

Also, if the new font/design replaces those ghastly Cardinals ripoff bat jerseys we have, Rice wins.



F for creativity. F for execution. Really hope these (and Oregon ripoff football stuff) die a rapid, unceremonious end.

(02-05-2019 06:32 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Original post shows Ham made the modification, consistent with the original poster’s claim in a subsequent post. I too thought a title change was up to the poster that created it.

Clearly, Ham is at the center of the conspiracy.

(02-06-2019 12:22 AM)Antarius Wrote:  Also, if the new font/design replaces those ghastly Cardinals ripoff bat jerseys we have, Rice wins.



F for creativity. F for execution. Really hope these (and Oregon ripoff football stuff) die a rapid, unceremonious end.

Agreed, I really dislike those unis. Also shows why the OER is a great logo, but OE is not a great font. IMHO.

I may be the only one, but I like the winged helmet.

(02-06-2019 08:16 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 12:22 AM)Antarius Wrote:  Also, if the new font/design replaces those ghastly Cardinals ripoff bat jerseys we have, Rice wins.



F for creativity. F for execution. Really hope these (and Oregon ripoff football stuff) die a rapid, unceremonious end.

Agreed, I really dislike those unis. Also shows why the OER is a great logo, but OE is not a great font. IMHO.

I may be the only one, but I like the winged helmet.

Those unis could have been great if they had followed more closely the Cardinal unis.Tulane got it right with their version. Ours look like they were designed for a kids show on Nickleodeon. I assume part of the problem was that these were pretty much bargain basement Addidas tops.

(02-05-2019 04:49 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 04:38 PM)Buho00 Wrote:  Could there possibly be a legal issue brewing over the OER? Does Wayne have a claim to it since he drew it up?

Very interesting speculation.

I have no idea, so I'm just scatter shooting, but it does make me wonder if perhaps the commissioning of, and subsequent move to, the new logos was somehow related to putting an end to Wayne's tenure.

I think I've made my position pretty clear. Rice has D1 athletics today because of Wayne Graham. On that basis, I would have been inclined to let him pick his own successor and do a farewell tour, rather than pulling the plug so quickly.

That being said, I like everything I've seen and heard about Bragga, and I wish him every success. I'd love to see Rice back in Omaha, starting this year.

But if we do make it to Omaha this year, even if we were to win it all, I would still not be happy with the way Wayne's situation was handled.

I still have my doubts that your scenario would/could have been accomplished easily given the feelings the Graham’s have towards JK.

(02-06-2019 09:11 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 08:16 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 12:22 AM)Antarius Wrote:  Also, if the new font/design replaces those ghastly Cardinals ripoff bat jerseys we have, Rice wins.



F for creativity. F for execution. Really hope these (and Oregon ripoff football stuff) die a rapid, unceremonious end.

Agreed, I really dislike those unis. Also shows why the OER is a great logo, but OE is not a great font. IMHO.

I may be the only one, but I like the winged helmet.

Those unis could have been great if they had followed more closely the Cardinal unis.Tulane got it right with their version. Ours look like they were designed for a kids show on Nickleodeon. I assume part of the problem was that these were pretty much bargain basement Addidas tops.

I think the biggest issue with those uni's was they put too owls that looked too realistic. Those Tulane jerseys work well because the pelican fits the style well.

Also, Tulane has, in recent years, had some pretty great uniform design. The fact that they've re-embraced the angry wave is fantastic. It's probably one of, if not, my favorite college football primary or secondary logo. Just looks great.

(02-05-2019 06:32 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Original post shows Ham made the modification, consistent with the original poster’s claim in a subsequent post. I too thought a title change was up to the poster that created it.

Don't worry I already got a cryptic warning for questioning it. To clear up the "no more" and "phased out"....I said no more because with them phasing out of the style they clearly have already moved on. Didn't mean to imply that every single OER would be gone the following day to show the change of an era. I thought the OER was a permanent staple of Rice and that does not seem to be the case anymore.

(02-06-2019 10:00 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 06:32 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Original post shows Ham made the modification, consistent with the original poster’s claim in a subsequent post. I too thought a title change was up to the poster that created it.

Don't worry I already got a cryptic warning for questioning it. To clear up the "no more" and "phased out"....I said no more because with them phasing out of the style they clearly have already moved on. Didn't mean to imply that every single OER would be gone the following day to show the change of an era. I thought the OER was a permanent staple of Rice and that does not seem to be the case anymore.

Someone's already posted that the OER is staying on the helmets. Hardly phasing it out, right?

Or did I misunderstand that post?

(02-06-2019 10:03 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:00 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 06:32 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Original post shows Ham made the modification, consistent with the original poster’s claim in a subsequent post. I too thought a title change was up to the poster that created it.

Don't worry I already got a cryptic warning for questioning it. To clear up the "no more" and "phased out"....I said no more because with them phasing out of the style they clearly have already moved on. Didn't mean to imply that every single OER would be gone the following day to show the change of an era. I thought the OER was a permanent staple of Rice and that does not seem to be the case anymore.

Someone's already posted that the OER is staying on the helmets. Hardly phasing it out, right?

Or did I misunderstand that post?

My understanding was they plan to phase it out on the uniforms first. But, the new font with an OER hat or helmet doesn't look right so that would be the next step. Again this is what I was told.

(02-06-2019 10:10 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:03 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:00 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 06:32 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Original post shows Ham made the modification, consistent with the original poster’s claim in a subsequent post. I too thought a title change was up to the poster that created it.

Don't worry I already got a cryptic warning for questioning it. To clear up the "no more" and "phased out"....I said no more because with them phasing out of the style they clearly have already moved on. Didn't mean to imply that every single OER would be gone the following day to show the change of an era. I thought the OER was a permanent staple of Rice and that does not seem to be the case anymore.

Someone's already posted that the OER is staying on the helmets. Hardly phasing it out, right?

Or did I misunderstand that post?

My understanding was they plan to phase it out on the uniforms first. But, the new font with an OER hat or helmet doesn't look right so that would be the next step. Again this is what I was told.

1. That’s not what you originally posted.
2. The OER on the hats and helmets still goes fine with the font on the uniforms.
3. We clearly have a pinstriped uniform with a large OER still. Take a look at any of the social media for the upcoming season.
4. The OER is still on the athletics website (not just affiliated with baseball) and it was said by the AD it would remain a primary symbol after the rebranding.
5. You claim a current baseball player told you this. You think they share the long term athletics branding strategy with a current player? A change in uniforms sure. But that isn’t what you said when you started this thread.

(02-06-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:10 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:03 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:00 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 06:32 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Original post shows Ham made the modification, consistent with the original poster’s claim in a subsequent post. I too thought a title change was up to the poster that created it.

Don't worry I already got a cryptic warning for questioning it. To clear up the "no more" and "phased out"....I said no more because with them phasing out of the style they clearly have already moved on. Didn't mean to imply that every single OER would be gone the following day to show the change of an era. I thought the OER was a permanent staple of Rice and that does not seem to be the case anymore.

Someone's already posted that the OER is staying on the helmets. Hardly phasing it out, right?

Or did I misunderstand that post?

My understanding was they plan to phase it out on the uniforms first. But, the new font with an OER hat or helmet doesn't look right so that would be the next step. Again this is what I was told.

1. That’s not what you originally posted.
2. The OER on the hats and helmets still goes fine with the font on the uniforms.
3. We clearly have a pinstriped uniform with a large OER still. Take a look at any of the social media for the upcoming season.
4. The OER is still on the athletics website (not just affiliated with baseball) and it was said by the AD it would remain a primary symbol after the rebranding.
5. You claim a current baseball player told you this. You think they share the long term athletics branding strategy with a current player? A change in uniforms sure. But that isn’t what you said when you started this thread.

First off....no it looks horrible having OER with the "modern font". Social media isn't the most reliable source for anything much less future plans. Phased out insinuates that for a time the classics will remain. Current players are closer to people in the know than anyone else. It's not like the long term branding strategy is a need to know basis, this is Rice athletics for gods sake.