(02-06-2019 10:38 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:10 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:03 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:00 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  Don't worry I already got a cryptic warning for questioning it. To clear up the "no more" and "phased out"....I said no more because with them phasing out of the style they clearly have already moved on. Didn't mean to imply that every single OER would be gone the following day to show the change of an era. I thought the OER was a permanent staple of Rice and that does not seem to be the case anymore.

Someone's already posted that the OER is staying on the helmets. Hardly phasing it out, right?

Or did I misunderstand that post?

My understanding was they plan to phase it out on the uniforms first. But, the new font with an OER hat or helmet doesn't look right so that would be the next step. Again this is what I was told.

1. That’s not what you originally posted.
2. The OER on the hats and helmets still goes fine with the font on the uniforms.
3. We clearly have a pinstriped uniform with a large OER still. Take a look at any of the social media for the upcoming season.
4. The OER is still on the athletics website (not just affiliated with baseball) and it was said by the AD it would remain a primary symbol after the rebranding.
5. You claim a current baseball player told you this. You think they share the long term athletics branding strategy with a current player? A change in uniforms sure. But that isn’t what you said when you started this thread.

First off....no it looks horrible having OER with the "modern font". Social media isn't the most reliable source for anything much less future plans. Phased out insinuates that for a time the classics will remain. Current players are closer to people in the know than anyone else. It's not like the long term branding strategy is a need to know basis, this is Rice athletics for gods sake.

I’ll wait until I see a uniform to see if “it looks horrible”. I like our basketball uniforms with the new font. I’m sure having it on a baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly. Lots of schools leave the script letter on their helmets and hats and it works fine.

Originally you said “I’ve been informed we are getting rid of the OER. Rice athletics is going in the wrong direction”.

Are you going to admit that was wrong? This whole thread is just a great troll job.

(02-06-2019 10:50 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:38 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:10 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:03 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Someone's already posted that the OER is staying on the helmets. Hardly phasing it out, right?

Or did I misunderstand that post?

My understanding was they plan to phase it out on the uniforms first. But, the new font with an OER hat or helmet doesn't look right so that would be the next step. Again this is what I was told.

1. That’s not what you originally posted.
2. The OER on the hats and helmets still goes fine with the font on the uniforms.
3. We clearly have a pinstriped uniform with a large OER still. Take a look at any of the social media for the upcoming season.
4. The OER is still on the athletics website (not just affiliated with baseball) and it was said by the AD it would remain a primary symbol after the rebranding.
5. You claim a current baseball player told you this. You think they share the long term athletics branding strategy with a current player? A change in uniforms sure. But that isn’t what you said when you started this thread.

First off....no it looks horrible having OER with the "modern font". Social media isn't the most reliable source for anything much less future plans. Phased out insinuates that for a time the classics will remain. Current players are closer to people in the know than anyone else. It's not like the long term branding strategy is a need to know basis, this is Rice athletics for gods sake.

I’ll wait until I see a uniform to see if “it looks horrible”. I like our basketball uniforms with the new font. I’m sure having it on a baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly. Lots of schools leave the script letter on their helmets and hats and it works fine.

Originally you said “I’ve been informed we are getting rid of the OER. Rice athletics is going in the wrong direction”.

Are you going to admit that was wrong? This whole thread is just a great troll job.

This thread is a show about nothing.

(02-06-2019 10:50 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:38 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:10 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:03 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Someone's already posted that the OER is staying on the helmets. Hardly phasing it out, right?

Or did I misunderstand that post?

My understanding was they plan to phase it out on the uniforms first. But, the new font with an OER hat or helmet doesn't look right so that would be the next step. Again this is what I was told.

1. That’s not what you originally posted.
2. The OER on the hats and helmets still goes fine with the font on the uniforms.
3. We clearly have a pinstriped uniform with a large OER still. Take a look at any of the social media for the upcoming season.
4. The OER is still on the athletics website (not just affiliated with baseball) and it was said by the AD it would remain a primary symbol after the rebranding.
5. You claim a current baseball player told you this. You think they share the long term athletics branding strategy with a current player? A change in uniforms sure. But that isn’t what you said when you started this thread.

First off....no it looks horrible having OER with the "modern font". Social media isn't the most reliable source for anything much less future plans. Phased out insinuates that for a time the classics will remain. Current players are closer to people in the know than anyone else. It's not like the long term branding strategy is a need to know basis, this is Rice athletics for gods sake.

I’ll wait until I see a uniform to see if “it looks horrible”. I like our basketball uniforms with the new font. I’m sure having it on a baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly. Lots of schools leave the script letter on their helmets and hats and it works fine.

Originally you said “I’ve been informed we are getting rid of the OER. Rice athletics is going in the wrong direction”.

Are you going to admit that was wrong? This whole thread is just a great troll job.

Ok so first off basketball doesn't wear hats last I checked. So there is no clash of OER and the new font. Tennis was one of the first to make the transition with the updated font on their shirts but wore hats rocking the OER and it clashed. "Our baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly" well yeah that's obvious, but that would take the removal of the OER. What other schools have two very different fonts on their jerseys and hats that aren't some sort of throw back special occasion? Getting rid of the OER was the end game in this whole thing. Do you think Rice athletics is going in the right direction? Either direction could be considered an opinion. So I don't think there needs to be an admission of anything. I'm merely suggesting this is a poor decision and reflects the change in Rice athletics over the past few years.

(02-06-2019 11:28 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:50 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:38 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:10 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  My understanding was they plan to phase it out on the uniforms first. But, the new font with an OER hat or helmet doesn't look right so that would be the next step. Again this is what I was told.

1. That’s not what you originally posted.
2. The OER on the hats and helmets still goes fine with the font on the uniforms.
3. We clearly have a pinstriped uniform with a large OER still. Take a look at any of the social media for the upcoming season.
4. The OER is still on the athletics website (not just affiliated with baseball) and it was said by the AD it would remain a primary symbol after the rebranding.
5. You claim a current baseball player told you this. You think they share the long term athletics branding strategy with a current player? A change in uniforms sure. But that isn’t what you said when you started this thread.

First off....no it looks horrible having OER with the "modern font". Social media isn't the most reliable source for anything much less future plans. Phased out insinuates that for a time the classics will remain. Current players are closer to people in the know than anyone else. It's not like the long term branding strategy is a need to know basis, this is Rice athletics for gods sake.

I’ll wait until I see a uniform to see if “it looks horrible”. I like our basketball uniforms with the new font. I’m sure having it on a baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly. Lots of schools leave the script letter on their helmets and hats and it works fine.

Originally you said “I’ve been informed we are getting rid of the OER. Rice athletics is going in the wrong direction”.

Are you going to admit that was wrong? This whole thread is just a great troll job.

Ok so first off basketball doesn't wear hats last I checked. So there is no clash of OER and the new font. Tennis was one of the first to make the transition with the updated font on their shirts but wore hats rocking the OER and it clashed. "Our baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly" well yeah that's obvious, but that would take the removal of the OER. What other schools have two very different fonts on their jerseys and hats that aren't some sort of throw back special occasion? Getting rid of the OER was the end game in this whole thing. Do you think Rice athletics is going in the right direction? Either direction could be considered an opinion. So I don't think there needs to be an admission of anything. I'm merely suggesting this is a poor decision and reflects the change in Rice athletics over the past few years.

“Clashes” is your own opinion. Clearly no one has gotten rid of the OER. Your entire original post is incorrect.

Miami: https://goo.gl/images/DQrKaS
Louisville: https://goo.gl/images/2WsMWH

Two very notable college programs with a script letter on their helmets and hats and different font on the jersey for the school name.

(02-06-2019 11:28 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  Ok so first off basketball doesn't wear hats last I checked.

Dammit. Another example of the AD skimping. Maybe James Harden can buy hats for the team.

(02-06-2019 08:16 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  Also shows why the OER is a great logo, but OE is not a great font. IMHO.

This is a really great way to describe it. The cardinals ripoff looks like a chandelier with cobwebs - just too much going on.

That said, it is a phenomenal logo, and would also be extremely unhappy if it was replaced. But, it isnt, so no need to panic (or induce panic, for some people)

(02-06-2019 11:41 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:28 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:50 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:38 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  1. That’s not what you originally posted.
2. The OER on the hats and helmets still goes fine with the font on the uniforms.
3. We clearly have a pinstriped uniform with a large OER still. Take a look at any of the social media for the upcoming season.
4. The OER is still on the athletics website (not just affiliated with baseball) and it was said by the AD it would remain a primary symbol after the rebranding.
5. You claim a current baseball player told you this. You think they share the long term athletics branding strategy with a current player? A change in uniforms sure. But that isn’t what you said when you started this thread.

First off....no it looks horrible having OER with the "modern font". Social media isn't the most reliable source for anything much less future plans. Phased out insinuates that for a time the classics will remain. Current players are closer to people in the know than anyone else. It's not like the long term branding strategy is a need to know basis, this is Rice athletics for gods sake.

I’ll wait until I see a uniform to see if “it looks horrible”. I like our basketball uniforms with the new font. I’m sure having it on a baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly. Lots of schools leave the script letter on their helmets and hats and it works fine.

Originally you said “I’ve been informed we are getting rid of the OER. Rice athletics is going in the wrong direction”.

Are you going to admit that was wrong? This whole thread is just a great troll job.

Ok so first off basketball doesn't wear hats last I checked. So there is no clash of OER and the new font. Tennis was one of the first to make the transition with the updated font on their shirts but wore hats rocking the OER and it clashed. "Our baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly" well yeah that's obvious, but that would take the removal of the OER. What other schools have two very different fonts on their jerseys and hats that aren't some sort of throw back special occasion? Getting rid of the OER was the end game in this whole thing. Do you think Rice athletics is going in the right direction? Either direction could be considered an opinion. So I don't think there needs to be an admission of anything. I'm merely suggesting this is a poor decision and reflects the change in Rice athletics over the past few years.

“Clashes” is your own opinion. Clearly no one has gotten rid of the OER. Your entire original post is incorrect.

Miami: https://goo.gl/images/DQrKaS
Louisville: https://goo.gl/images/2WsMWH

Two very notable college programs with a script letter on their helmets and hats and different font on the jersey for the school name.

Hell, has everyone forgotten that the football team uses OER on the helmet, but the new font on the front of the jerseys (and back of the helmets)? Is it really that bad?

http://riceowls.com/galleries/?image=32315

Seeing both of them on a screen, on an otherwise written webpage, in close alignment - yeah, I'm generally not a big fan. But it's not a horrible clash, and they've been mixing it for a while on uniforms.

Maybe there's a giant conspiracy to replace it in the future. Doesn't seem like it is right now. In fact, it seems like the right mix of OER and new - in all of the appropriate ways and places.

(02-06-2019 11:41 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:28 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:50 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:38 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  1. That’s not what you originally posted.
2. The OER on the hats and helmets still goes fine with the font on the uniforms.
3. We clearly have a pinstriped uniform with a large OER still. Take a look at any of the social media for the upcoming season.
4. The OER is still on the athletics website (not just affiliated with baseball) and it was said by the AD it would remain a primary symbol after the rebranding.
5. You claim a current baseball player told you this. You think they share the long term athletics branding strategy with a current player? A change in uniforms sure. But that isn’t what you said when you started this thread.

First off....no it looks horrible having OER with the "modern font". Social media isn't the most reliable source for anything much less future plans. Phased out insinuates that for a time the classics will remain. Current players are closer to people in the know than anyone else. It's not like the long term branding strategy is a need to know basis, this is Rice athletics for gods sake.

I’ll wait until I see a uniform to see if “it looks horrible”. I like our basketball uniforms with the new font. I’m sure having it on a baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly. Lots of schools leave the script letter on their helmets and hats and it works fine.

Originally you said “I’ve been informed we are getting rid of the OER. Rice athletics is going in the wrong direction”.

Are you going to admit that was wrong? This whole thread is just a great troll job.

Ok so first off basketball doesn't wear hats last I checked. So there is no clash of OER and the new font. Tennis was one of the first to make the transition with the updated font on their shirts but wore hats rocking the OER and it clashed. "Our baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly" well yeah that's obvious, but that would take the removal of the OER. What other schools have two very different fonts on their jerseys and hats that aren't some sort of throw back special occasion? Getting rid of the OER was the end game in this whole thing. Do you think Rice athletics is going in the right direction? Either direction could be considered an opinion. So I don't think there needs to be an admission of anything. I'm merely suggesting this is a poor decision and reflects the change in Rice athletics over the past few years.

“Clashes” is your own opinion. Clearly no one has gotten rid of the OER. Your entire original post is incorrect.

Miami: https://goo.gl/images/DQrKaS
Louisville: https://goo.gl/images/2WsMWH

Two very notable college programs with a script letter on their helmets and hats and different font on the jersey for the school name.

I kinda like the Louisville look.

(02-06-2019 10:38 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  First off....no it looks horrible having OER with the "modern font". Social media isn't the most reliable source for anything much less future plans. Phased out insinuates that for a time the classics will remain. Current players are closer to people in the know than anyone else. It's not like the long term branding strategy is a need to know basis, this is Rice athletics for gods sake.

First off, your opinion. Not saying I disagree generally, but it's a bit like saying the 'Diet' in a cursive font 'clashes' with the 'Coke' on the diet coke can is somehow hurting their branding....
It's about the product and being able to identify a logo with that product. 'Rice Owls' are words. Write them in any font you want and it still says the same thing, but if someone wrote Tulane using the same font, I doubt anyone would accuse them of serious 'theft'.

Second, while social media isn't a reliable source overall, when the social media is posted by the entity making the decisions it absolutely IS. Interestingly, you're essentially outing yourself as being unreliable, since message boards are essentially social media. Trust me, when an organization decides to change their logo, their social media accounts are among the first not last places those changes take place.

Third, I seriously doubt that many players are discussing 'branding' with the AD... not matter HOW close they are... nor do I think the AD would be rushing out to hold a meeting with players to tell them.

Finally, since your NEW claim about what you intended to say is closer to what I changed your thread title to than your original thread title, 'You're Welcome'.

(02-06-2019 11:03 AM)ranfin Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:50 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  Originally you said “I’ve been informed we are getting rid of the OER. Rice athletics is going in the wrong direction”.

Are you going to admit that was wrong? This whole thread is just a great troll job.

This thread is a show about nothing.

Hence the change in thread title. It's an opinion piece from an unsubstantiated poster making a claim about something they heard from an un-named current player originally presented as a fact of fairly great significance to most posters on here. Doesn't make it entirely untrue.

(02-06-2019 11:41 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:28 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:50 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:38 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  1. That’s not what you originally posted.
2. The OER on the hats and helmets still goes fine with the font on the uniforms.
3. We clearly have a pinstriped uniform with a large OER still. Take a look at any of the social media for the upcoming season.
4. The OER is still on the athletics website (not just affiliated with baseball) and it was said by the AD it would remain a primary symbol after the rebranding.
5. You claim a current baseball player told you this. You think they share the long term athletics branding strategy with a current player? A change in uniforms sure. But that isn’t what you said when you started this thread.

First off....no it looks horrible having OER with the "modern font". Social media isn't the most reliable source for anything much less future plans. Phased out insinuates that for a time the classics will remain. Current players are closer to people in the know than anyone else. It's not like the long term branding strategy is a need to know basis, this is Rice athletics for gods sake.

I’ll wait until I see a uniform to see if “it looks horrible”. I like our basketball uniforms with the new font. I’m sure having it on a baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly. Lots of schools leave the script letter on their helmets and hats and it works fine.

Originally you said “I’ve been informed we are getting rid of the OER. Rice athletics is going in the wrong direction”.

Are you going to admit that was wrong? This whole thread is just a great troll job.

Ok so first off basketball doesn't wear hats last I checked. So there is no clash of OER and the new font. Tennis was one of the first to make the transition with the updated font on their shirts but wore hats rocking the OER and it clashed. "Our baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly" well yeah that's obvious, but that would take the removal of the OER. What other schools have two very different fonts on their jerseys and hats that aren't some sort of throw back special occasion? Getting rid of the OER was the end game in this whole thing. Do you think Rice athletics is going in the right direction? Either direction could be considered an opinion. So I don't think there needs to be an admission of anything. I'm merely suggesting this is a poor decision and reflects the change in Rice athletics over the past few years.

“Clashes” is your own opinion. Clearly no one has gotten rid of the OER. Your entire original post is incorrect.

Miami: https://goo.gl/images/DQrKaS
Louisville: https://goo.gl/images/2WsMWH

Two very notable college programs with a script letter on their helmets and hats and different font on the jersey for the school name.

Two horrible examples. That's a picture of someone in a Miami lockerroom that clearly just got to throw on a hat and jersey. If you do more research you will see that the hat in said picture is worn when the jerseys have the same font and those jerseys are worn when they wear their iconic U. Louisville does sometimes wear a similar old english L but most of the time when they wear their other font on their uniforms they have a cardinal on their hats. Also they wear black pants and that's not ok.

(02-06-2019 12:54 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:41 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:28 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:50 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:38 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  First off....no it looks horrible having OER with the "modern font". Social media isn't the most reliable source for anything much less future plans. Phased out insinuates that for a time the classics will remain. Current players are closer to people in the know than anyone else. It's not like the long term branding strategy is a need to know basis, this is Rice athletics for gods sake.

I’ll wait until I see a uniform to see if “it looks horrible”. I like our basketball uniforms with the new font. I’m sure having it on a baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly. Lots of schools leave the script letter on their helmets and hats and it works fine.

Originally you said “I’ve been informed we are getting rid of the OER. Rice athletics is going in the wrong direction”.

Are you going to admit that was wrong? This whole thread is just a great troll job.

Ok so first off basketball doesn't wear hats last I checked. So there is no clash of OER and the new font. Tennis was one of the first to make the transition with the updated font on their shirts but wore hats rocking the OER and it clashed. "Our baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly" well yeah that's obvious, but that would take the removal of the OER. What other schools have two very different fonts on their jerseys and hats that aren't some sort of throw back special occasion? Getting rid of the OER was the end game in this whole thing. Do you think Rice athletics is going in the right direction? Either direction could be considered an opinion. So I don't think there needs to be an admission of anything. I'm merely suggesting this is a poor decision and reflects the change in Rice athletics over the past few years.

“Clashes” is your own opinion. Clearly no one has gotten rid of the OER. Your entire original post is incorrect.

Miami: https://goo.gl/images/DQrKaS
Louisville: https://goo.gl/images/2WsMWH

Two very notable college programs with a script letter on their helmets and hats and different font on the jersey for the school name.

I kinda like the Louisville look.

Really? Idk I can't get over the black pants they wear. Reminds me of a softball team.

(02-06-2019 02:32 PM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 12:54 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:41 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:28 AM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 10:50 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  I’ll wait until I see a uniform to see if “it looks horrible”. I like our basketball uniforms with the new font. I’m sure having it on a baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly. Lots of schools leave the script letter on their helmets and hats and it works fine.

Originally you said “I’ve been informed we are getting rid of the OER. Rice athletics is going in the wrong direction”.

Are you going to admit that was wrong? This whole thread is just a great troll job.

Ok so first off basketball doesn't wear hats last I checked. So there is no clash of OER and the new font. Tennis was one of the first to make the transition with the updated font on their shirts but wore hats rocking the OER and it clashed. "Our baseball uniform could look fine if done correctly" well yeah that's obvious, but that would take the removal of the OER. What other schools have two very different fonts on their jerseys and hats that aren't some sort of throw back special occasion? Getting rid of the OER was the end game in this whole thing. Do you think Rice athletics is going in the right direction? Either direction could be considered an opinion. So I don't think there needs to be an admission of anything. I'm merely suggesting this is a poor decision and reflects the change in Rice athletics over the past few years.

“Clashes” is your own opinion. Clearly no one has gotten rid of the OER. Your entire original post is incorrect.

Miami: https://goo.gl/images/DQrKaS
Louisville: https://goo.gl/images/2WsMWH

Two very notable college programs with a script letter on their helmets and hats and different font on the jersey for the school name.

I kinda like the Louisville look.

Really? Idk I can't get over the black pants they wear. Reminds me of a softball team.

Was talking about the combo of "modern" lettering with their version of the OER.

While many can point liberally to mishaps, false-starts, under-reaching and leading from (way, way) behind in much of major sport Rice athletics over the past several decades, one thing the U and Athl Dept got 100% right was the Olde English "R" as what should be THE permanent logo and symbol of Rice sports, or at least as long as the Teasips keep the Longhorn as their primary mark.

https://twitter.com/jkarlgaard/status/10...97153?s=21

(02-06-2019 09:24 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  https://twitter.com/jkarlgaard/status/10...97153?s=21

/thread

I'm still scratching my head how and why so many of our more knowledgeable posters took the original post seriously. Made absolutely no sense. And many of us voiced our concern about losing the OER during the rebranding process a couple years back and were assured by both Tanner and Joe that the OER would remain as the primary brand.

(02-06-2019 09:24 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  https://twitter.com/jkarlgaard/status/10...97153?s=21

The rumor was easy to believe because of how typical it would be for Rice Athletics, going back decades.

I’m happy to see it dispelled.

(02-06-2019 09:47 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  I'm still scratching my head how and why so many of our more knowledgeable posters took the original post seriously. Made absolutely no sense.

After watching Rice athletics for 50 years, "Made absolutely no sense," is a fairly powerful reason for believing the story.

Very, very intimidated...

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/...ng-legend/