(01-10-2019 11:21 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-10-2019 11:08 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 04:30 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 04:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 04:23 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think the vast majority of Americans would be on board with it, given that most approve of the wall.

Source?

And you do realize he's talking about taking money from the Department of Defense of America and not Mexico, right?

I actually realize that the entire "Mexico will pay for the wall" comment never meant Mexico would write a check prior to construction.

So that dis doesn't work on me.

I think most people understand that Mexico will inevitably pay for the wall.

Mexico knows it, too.

Money will stay in the US that used to flow to Mexico.

Money that stays in the US will be taxed.

There's many different ways that Mexico will pay for the wall.

And if it comes to fruition, they'll pay dearly.

Trump said Mexico would make a one time payment of 5-10 billion dollars.

He explained that in an interview this morning saying that Mexico would be paying for it as contained within the savings the U.S. would receive from the modified trade bill with Mexico.

BTW: I'm pretty sure that he could classify this as an Emergency Spending Bill for National Defense. It will be very hard for this to be declared a partisan issue when the effect will be to secure the rights of all "citizens" and to protect the massive cash outlay to accommodate illegals, which affects all taxpayers.

Now if the bill disenfranchised actual taxpaying citizens perhaps an argument against could be made. But it doesn't.

Yeah, and this too is complete rubbish. No money comes directly to the USA from Mexico as a result of this yet to be approved new deal.

Quote:Trump claimed, "Mexico is paying for the Wall through the new USMCA Trade Deal."

USMCA is the name for the renegotiated NAFTA. USMCA is not in effect yet. Even then, there is no provision in the free trade agreement about Mexico directly paying for the wall.

The new USMCA deal does not add new tariffs on goods coming from Mexico to the United States, an expert told us. It’s unclear how the deal will impact U.S. businesses revenues. If U.S. tax revenue increases in response to increased revenues of U.S. firms, then Congress would still have to allocate that money for the wall. That’s questionable.

Trump’s claim lacks supporting evidence. We rate it False.

No, Mexico isn't paying for border wall through USMCA trade deal, despite Donald Trump's claims

The only proof you need that Mexico isn't paying for the wall is the fact that Trump is demanding taxpayer money TODAY for the wall.

(01-11-2019 07:44 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He said Mexico would write a one time check for 5-10 million dollars. Since that didn’t happen he’s now selling y’all a different pig in a poke.

Really?

And I apologize for this being from Twitter.. but it's the immediate link that was handed to me.. 2016, when he was CANDIDATE Trump..

OOops.. that's not what the video in this twitter posting says

If Trump says it, these guppies are the first fish to the surface to gobble it up... and he doesn't even have to provide a link.

(01-11-2019 10:54 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 07:44 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He said Mexico would write a one time check for 5-10 million dollars. Since that didn’t happen he’s now selling y’all a different pig in a poke.

Really?

And I apologize for this being from Twitter.. but it's the immediate link that was handed to me.. 2016, when he was CANDIDATE Trump..

OOops.. that's not what the video in this twitter posting says

Sean Hannity was politically smart enough to know Mexico wasn't going to pay for a wall, so he provided then candidate Trump with some cover. Fortunately, the orange idiot drafted a plan for all to see and posted it on his website.

Link...
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf