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(01-04-2019 06:59 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  
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(01-04-2019 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea...source?
Lol, has Trump realized that if he takes money from the Defense budget, which he would have to do to use the national emergency policy, then hed be taking money away from our soldiers.
And I suspect that the courts are going to make quick work of this plan.
Not sure how. Its the defense of the border. Caravans of 15K are marching toward the border monthly. We have had an illegal alien issue for half a century which is getting worse. He's already been forced to send troops to border. And frankly--he's doing something that most of the Democrats voting against the measure have already either agreed to do or have said needed to be done. What---70% of the nation agrees that we have a serious issue on the border than that we need a wall.
I mean, the Dems will venue shop to make sure they win the initial round in court---but Trump has basically loaded the SC so that liberal non-sense wont fly once it hits the Supreme Court. I think its probably time for the Democrats to end the Schumer Shutdown and vote to fund the wall. Its all politics on their side. Nobody with common sense thinks it makes sense to shut down the government to prevent a wall from being built. Chuck and Nancy are losing the common sense argument with the common people, but what else is new....
I doubt any court will agree with the idea that potential asylum seekers and economic migrants are a threat to national security...

I doubt courts will agree that the stream of those seeking entry consists entirely of legitimate asylum seekers and economic migrants.
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Walls exist all over the border IDIOTS, we need more.
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(01-04-2019 06:59 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 06:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea...source?

Lol, has Trump realized that if he takes money from the Defense budget, which he would have to do to use the national emergency policy, then hed be taking money away from our soldiers.

And I suspect that the courts are going to make quick work of this plan.

Not sure how. Its the defense of the border. Caravans of 15K are marching toward the border monthly. We have had an illegal alien issue for half a century which is getting worse. He's already been forced to send troops to border. And frankly--he's doing something that most of the Democrats voting against the measure have already either agreed to do or have said needed to be done. What---70% of the nation agrees that we have a serious issue on the border than that we need a wall.

I mean, the Dems will venue shop to make sure they win the initial round in court---but Trump has basically loaded the SC so that liberal non-sense wont fly once it hits the Supreme Court. I think its probably time for the Democrats to end the Schumer Shutdown and vote to fund the wall. Its all politics on their side. Nobody with common sense thinks it makes sense to shut down the government to prevent a wall from being built. Chuck and Nancy are losing the common sense argument with the common people, but what else is new....

I doubt any court will agree with the idea that potential asylum seekers and economic migrants VIOLENTLY trying to illegally enter the country are a threat to national security...


When you craft a more truthful sentence---they probably would consider it a national security issue. (see my edit above)
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(01-04-2019 11:37 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Walls exist all over the border IDIOTS, we need more.

Exactly. If they dont work and are immoral (as Nancy Pelosi claims), why arent the Democrats demanding that we tear down the miles of walls and fences already in place? I imagine they could have passed that kind of legislation under OBlunder.
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(01-04-2019 05:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  He is also considering making you go reeeeeeee everyday forever

Lol


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(01-04-2019 06:59 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 06:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea...source?

Lol, has Trump realized that if he takes money from the Defense budget, which he would have to do to use the national emergency policy, then hed be taking money away from our soldiers.

And I suspect that the courts are going to make quick work of this plan.

Not sure how. Its the defense of the border. Caravans of 15K are marching toward the border monthly. We have had an illegal alien issue for half a century which is getting worse. He's already been forced to send troops to border. And frankly--he's doing something that most of the Democrats voting against the measure have already either agreed to do or have said needed to be done. What---70% of the nation agrees that we have a serious issue on the border than that we need a wall.

I mean, the Dems will venue shop to make sure they win the initial round in court---but Trump has basically loaded the SC so that liberal non-sense wont fly once it hits the Supreme Court. I think its probably time for the Democrats to end the Schumer Shutdown and vote to fund the wall. Its all politics on their side. Nobody with common sense thinks it makes sense to shut down the government to prevent a wall from being built. Chuck and Nancy are losing the common sense argument with the common people, but what else is new....

I doubt any court will agree with the idea that potential asylum seekers and economic migrants are a threat to national security...


You misspelled illegal alien...
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Pretty cool!

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Can we just build a 30 foot steel and concrete solar panel holder? Then it would be green energy and they would have to argue for it.


Also, here's a short video.


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(01-06-2019 10:56 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  Can we just build a 30 foot steel and concrete solar panel holder? Then it would be green energy and they would have to argue for it.


Also, here's a short video.



Can't wait for the Dem spin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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(01-04-2019 04:30 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 04:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 04:23 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think the vast majority of Americans would be on board with it, given that most approve of the wall.

Source?

And you do realize he's talking about taking money from the Department of Defense of America and not Mexico, right?

I actually realize that the entire "Mexico will pay for the wall" comment never meant Mexico would write a check prior to construction.

So that dis doesn't work on me.

I think most people understand that Mexico will inevitably pay for the wall.

Mexico knows it, too.

Money will stay in the US that used to flow to Mexico.

Money that stays in the US will be taxed.

There's many different ways that Mexico will pay for the wall.

And if it comes to fruition, they'll pay dearly.

Anyone with a brain knew that. That excludes a lot of people though. The renegotiated NAFTA was a good start.
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(01-04-2019 06:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea...source?

Lol, has Trump realized that if he takes money from the Defense budget, which he would have to do to use the national emergency policy, then hed be taking money away from our soldiers.

And I suspect that the courts are going to make quick work of this plan.

Not sure how. Its the defense of the border. Caravans of 15K are marching toward the border monthly. We have had an illegal alien issue for half a century which is getting worse. He's already been forced to send troops to border. And frankly--he's doing something that most of the Democrats voting against the measure have already either agreed to do or have said needed to be done. What---70% of the nation agrees that we have a serious issue on the border than that we need a wall.

I mean, the Dems will venue shop to make sure they win the initial round in court---but Trump has basically loaded the SC so that liberal non-sense wont fly once it hits the Supreme Court. I think its probably time for the Democrats to end the Schumer Shutdown and vote to fund the wall. Its all politics on their side. Nobody with common sense thinks it makes sense to shut down the government to prevent a wall from being built. Chuck and Nancy are losing the common sense argument with the common people, but what else is new....

Is it? Do you have a source for this?
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(01-08-2019 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 06:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea...source?

Lol, has Trump realized that if he takes money from the Defense budget, which he would have to do to use the national emergency policy, then hed be taking money away from our soldiers.

And I suspect that the courts are going to make quick work of this plan.

Not sure how. Its the defense of the border. Caravans of 15K are marching toward the border monthly. We have had an illegal alien issue for half a century which is getting worse. He's already been forced to send troops to border. And frankly--he's doing something that most of the Democrats voting against the measure have already either agreed to do or have said needed to be done. What---70% of the nation agrees that we have a serious issue on the border than that we need a wall.

I mean, the Dems will venue shop to make sure they win the initial round in court---but Trump has basically loaded the SC so that liberal non-sense wont fly once it hits the Supreme Court. I think its probably time for the Democrats to end the Schumer Shutdown and vote to fund the wall. Its all politics on their side. Nobody with common sense thinks it makes sense to shut down the government to prevent a wall from being built. Chuck and Nancy are losing the common sense argument with the common people, but what else is new....

Is it? Do you have a source for this?


https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illega...tatistics/

Pay attention to the number of apprehensions not just the number of illegal immigrants.
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(01-08-2019 12:24 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 06:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea...source?

Lol, has Trump realized that if he takes money from the Defense budget, which he would have to do to use the national emergency policy, then hed be taking money away from our soldiers.

And I suspect that the courts are going to make quick work of this plan.

Not sure how. Its the defense of the border. Caravans of 15K are marching toward the border monthly. We have had an illegal alien issue for half a century which is getting worse. He's already been forced to send troops to border. And frankly--he's doing something that most of the Democrats voting against the measure have already either agreed to do or have said needed to be done. What---70% of the nation agrees that we have a serious issue on the border than that we need a wall.

I mean, the Dems will venue shop to make sure they win the initial round in court---but Trump has basically loaded the SC so that liberal non-sense wont fly once it hits the Supreme Court. I think its probably time for the Democrats to end the Schumer Shutdown and vote to fund the wall. Its all politics on their side. Nobody with common sense thinks it makes sense to shut down the government to prevent a wall from being built. Chuck and Nancy are losing the common sense argument with the common people, but what else is new....

Is it? Do you have a source for this?


https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illega...tatistics/

Pay attention to the number of apprehensions not just the number of illegal immigrants.

Right...and...

Quote:How many people are crossing the border illegally?
There’s no official measure of how many people succeed in illegally crossing the border, but authorities use the number of apprehensions to gauge changes in illegal immigration. Apprehensions on the Southwest border peaked in 2000 at 1.64 million and have generally declined since, totaling 303,916 in 2017.
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(01-08-2019 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 06:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea...source?

Lol, has Trump realized that if he takes money from the Defense budget, which he would have to do to use the national emergency policy, then hed be taking money away from our soldiers.

And I suspect that the courts are going to make quick work of this plan.

Not sure how. Its the defense of the border. Caravans of 15K are marching toward the border monthly. We have had an illegal alien issue for half a century which is getting worse. He's already been forced to send troops to border. And frankly--he's doing something that most of the Democrats voting against the measure have already either agreed to do or have said needed to be done. What---70% of the nation agrees that we have a serious issue on the border than that we need a wall.

I mean, the Dems will venue shop to make sure they win the initial round in court---but Trump has basically loaded the SC so that liberal non-sense wont fly once it hits the Supreme Court. I think its probably time for the Democrats to end the Schumer Shutdown and vote to fund the wall. Its all politics on their side. Nobody with common sense thinks it makes sense to shut down the government to prevent a wall from being built. Chuck and Nancy are losing the common sense argument with the common people, but what else is new....

Is it? Do you have a source for this?

https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/y...-estimates

Yale Study Finds Twice as Many Undocumented Immigrants as Previous Estimates

At the center lies a fairly stable and largely unquestioned number: 11.3 million undocumented immigrants residing in the U.S. But a paper by three Yale-affiliated researchers suggests all the perceptions and arguments based on that number may have a faulty foundation; the actual population of undocumented immigrants residing in the country is much larger than that, perhaps twice as high, and has been underestimated for decades.
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(01-08-2019 12:35 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 06:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea...source?

Lol, has Trump realized that if he takes money from the Defense budget, which he would have to do to use the national emergency policy, then hed be taking money away from our soldiers.

And I suspect that the courts are going to make quick work of this plan.

Not sure how. Its the defense of the border. Caravans of 15K are marching toward the border monthly. We have had an illegal alien issue for half a century which is getting worse. He's already been forced to send troops to border. And frankly--he's doing something that most of the Democrats voting against the measure have already either agreed to do or have said needed to be done. What---70% of the nation agrees that we have a serious issue on the border than that we need a wall.

I mean, the Dems will venue shop to make sure they win the initial round in court---but Trump has basically loaded the SC so that liberal non-sense wont fly once it hits the Supreme Court. I think its probably time for the Democrats to end the Schumer Shutdown and vote to fund the wall. Its all politics on their side. Nobody with common sense thinks it makes sense to shut down the government to prevent a wall from being built. Chuck and Nancy are losing the common sense argument with the common people, but what else is new....

Is it? Do you have a source for this?

https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/y...-estimates

Yale Study Finds Twice as Many Undocumented Immigrants as Previous Estimates

At the center lies a fairly stable and largely unquestioned number: 11.3 million undocumented immigrants residing in the U.S. But a paper by three Yale-affiliated researchers suggests all the perceptions and arguments based on that number may have a faulty foundation; the actual population of undocumented immigrants residing in the country is much larger than that, perhaps twice as high, and has been underestimated for decades.

Not the question. Is it getting worse...meaning, are more illegal immigrants coming? Additionally, are they coming in through the southern border?

From what I've seen, current increases are due to VISA overstays and not those coming illegally across the border...especially the southern one.
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(01-08-2019 12:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  From what I've seen, current increases are due to VISA overstays and not those coming illegally across the border...especially the southern one.

We'll fix that, too. Step 1 is the wall, something that prevents a future democratic president from opening the floodgates, a la merkel.
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(01-04-2019 05:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  He is also considering making you go reeeeeeee everyday forever

Lol

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(01-08-2019 12:44 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 12:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  From what I've seen, current increases are due to VISA overstays and not those coming illegally across the border...especially the southern one.

We'll fix that, too. Step 1 is the wall, something that prevents a future democratic president from opening the floodgates, a la merkel.

Makes sense, the bigger issue with the terror threats to our country is VISA overstays and illegal entries at airports, so we'll shut down government that's starting to effect screenings at our airports in order to build a wall first.

Idiots.
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(01-08-2019 12:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 12:35 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 06:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea...source?

Lol, has Trump realized that if he takes money from the Defense budget, which he would have to do to use the national emergency policy, then hed be taking money away from our soldiers.

And I suspect that the courts are going to make quick work of this plan.

Not sure how. Its the defense of the border. Caravans of 15K are marching toward the border monthly. We have had an illegal alien issue for half a century which is getting worse. He's already been forced to send troops to border. And frankly--he's doing something that most of the Democrats voting against the measure have already either agreed to do or have said needed to be done. What---70% of the nation agrees that we have a serious issue on the border than that we need a wall.

I mean, the Dems will venue shop to make sure they win the initial round in court---but Trump has basically loaded the SC so that liberal non-sense wont fly once it hits the Supreme Court. I think its probably time for the Democrats to end the Schumer Shutdown and vote to fund the wall. Its all politics on their side. Nobody with common sense thinks it makes sense to shut down the government to prevent a wall from being built. Chuck and Nancy are losing the common sense argument with the common people, but what else is new....

Is it? Do you have a source for this?

https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/y...-estimates

Yale Study Finds Twice as Many Undocumented Immigrants as Previous Estimates

At the center lies a fairly stable and largely unquestioned number: 11.3 million undocumented immigrants residing in the U.S. But a paper by three Yale-affiliated researchers suggests all the perceptions and arguments based on that number may have a faulty foundation; the actual population of undocumented immigrants residing in the country is much larger than that, perhaps twice as high, and has been underestimated for decades.

Not the question. Is it getting worse...meaning, are more illegal immigrants coming? Additionally, are they coming in through the southern border?

From what I've seen, current increases are due to VISA overstays and not those coming illegally across the border...especially the southern one.

Build the wall(s) and the southern border itself becomes a much more manageable issue, as do apprehensions and all other border security aspects of the illegal immigration issue going forward. Then we can focus on those already here.
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