HERO Sports is saying that potential outsider candidates for Troy HC position are:

Kendal Briles (Florida State OC)
Rob Likens (Arizona State OC)
Dan Enos (Alabama OC)
James Coley (Georgia Co-OC)
Chip Long (Notre Dame OC)
John Grass (Jax State HC)

I have no idea how they figure Kendal Briles is a candidate. He has zero ties to Troy's recruiting areas except Florida.

(01-04-2019 04:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 03:50 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 12:09 PM)stAte_3 Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 12:00 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 11:55 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  http://footballscoop.com/news/sources-ne...-virginia/


Bummer, Troy bros.


Sun Belt putting good coaches in the P5 though

Oh well, next man up! Glad we had him for 4 years.

The good thing is that Brown leaves the cupboard loaded. Next season will still be a good one, no matter who the coach is.

Coaching matters. Not saying you won’t have a successful season, but you need someone that knows how to use that talent.

I was going to say the same thing. Coaching DOES matter. Look at us in 2016-17 to now. I don't expect that you're AD will pull a Summers out of thin air like ours did, but it happens.

Especially to App and now to Troy.

Southern fans still saying "Woe is us" for the Summers era. Georgia Southern's issue was offense in 2016 and 2017. It wasn't exactly because of Summers coaching but his lack of administrative ability to make the right hire. He saw the option as a high school offense so he went out and hired high school coaches.

That couldn't be further from reality. Summers shot himself in the foot when he promised the option to the fans on day one and couldn't deliver the option coaches that he thought he could get. He then compounded that error by hiring TWO OC's (one being a high school head coach) that had never run the option before and had know idea how to. He then compounded that error by trying to dictate to the OC's how he wanted the option run and told them how to do their jobs even though he had no idea how to either. He then tripled down when he fired those two after year one to save his job, found someone that knew how to run the option in Cook (in theory). Summers then forced Cook to run it the Summers' way instead of letting Cook do it on his own and it failed miserably again. He was a terrible coach that micro managed and forced his way on the coordinators even though he had no idea how to do anything. He mismanaged the players and lost them when the crap started to hit the fan, and he never once answered a question in a way that gave anyone any type of confidence that he had any idea what he was doing. Every press conference made him look more and more lost as they went on and at the end he was more deer in the headlights than anything. It was sad to watch. He was and is the perfect example of what NOT to do when you get hired as a head coach. He took over a very talented team and took everyone to the point where they had no idea what they were doing because it was never the same from one game to the next. And when it started going bad, it went REAL BAD, REAL QUICK.

(01-04-2019 04:30 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  HERO Sports is saying that potential outsider candidates for Troy HC position are:

Kendal Briles (Florida State OC)
Rob Likens (Arizona State OC)
Dan Enos (Alabama OC)
James Coley (Georgia Co-OC)
Chip Long (Notre Dame OC)
John Grass (Jax State HC)

I have no idea how they Kendal Briles is a candidate. He has zero ties to Troy's recruiting areas.

briles is bad Enos not sure how you can pay what he’s making ... not sure about the rest.

(01-04-2019 04:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 03:50 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 12:09 PM)stAte_3 Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 12:00 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 11:55 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  http://footballscoop.com/news/sources-ne...-virginia/


Bummer, Troy bros.


Sun Belt putting good coaches in the P5 though

Oh well, next man up! Glad we had him for 4 years.

The good thing is that Brown leaves the cupboard loaded. Next season will still be a good one, no matter who the coach is.

Coaching matters. Not saying you won’t have a successful season, but you need someone that knows how to use that talent.

I was going to say the same thing. Coaching DOES matter. Look at us in 2016-17 to now. I don't expect that you're AD will pull a Summers out of thin air like ours did, but it happens.

Especially to App and now to Troy.

Southern fans still saying "Woe is us" for the Summers era. Georgia Southern's issue was offense in 2016 and 2017. It wasn't exactly because of Summers coaching but his lack of administrative ability to make the right hire. He saw the option as a high school offense so he went out and hired high school coaches.

Rent. Free.

We are so in your head that you have no idea what the **** you are talking about.

(01-04-2019 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 02:02 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Most of the WVU fans I've seen are calling this a major upgrade saying Coach Brown will take them to the next level. That's a testament to the level of respect Coach Brown was able to garner at Troy. Troy will have no problem replacing him with another all star.

You say this about Troy, then suggest App will fall off the mountain.

Nice.

I was about to post the same thing. It is because they want us to fall off the mountain.

(01-04-2019 05:52 PM)asu7 Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 02:02 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Most of the WVU fans I've seen are calling this a major upgrade saying Coach Brown will take them to the next level. That's a testament to the level of respect Coach Brown was able to garner at Troy. Troy will have no problem replacing him with another all star.

You say this about Troy, then suggest App will fall off the mountain.

Nice.

I was about to post the same thing. It is because they want us to fall off the mountain.

Don’t y’all have a defense to pray for?

Every time there is a change NO one can predict how things will go. It happened to App now to us. Satterfield brought App into FBS with a great amount of success. Brown restored Troy to a good place. Both men I believe were loved at their respective schools and left them better than they found them. That is a great testament to them as individuals. I kind of think we at Troy we’re anticipating this as you at App May well have been as well. Neither of us happy, yet happy for them because as I said to leave a place as a better place than you found it is all any coach, teacher , boss or anyone could hope for as a legacy. To leave with
literally universal support and well wishes speaks of even a higher accomplishment. That accomplishment is to make others feel better about themselves while maintaining integrity. I am not sure which one of us will SUFFER the most with change but we should feel down right privileged to have had the experiences we have had with two fine men.
I wish you guys well till we meet in Troy and just maybe we can get College Game to come because of the success that our teams are having which in no small part will be a further tribute to our former coaches. I am quite sure that both would love to see that happen and success continue for both of our schools.
day

(01-04-2019 04:35 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 04:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 03:50 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 12:09 PM)stAte_3 Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 12:00 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Oh well, next man up! Glad we had him for 4 years.

The good thing is that Brown leaves the cupboard loaded. Next season will still be a good one, no matter who the coach is.

Coaching matters. Not saying you won’t have a successful season, but you need someone that knows how to use that talent.

I was going to say the same thing. Coaching DOES matter. Look at us in 2016-17 to now. I don't expect that you're AD will pull a Summers out of thin air like ours did, but it happens.

Especially to App and now to Troy.

Southern fans still saying "Woe is us" for the Summers era. Georgia Southern's issue was offense in 2016 and 2017. It wasn't exactly because of Summers coaching but his lack of administrative ability to make the right hire. He saw the option as a high school offense so he went out and hired high school coaches.

That couldn't be further from reality. Summers shot himself in the foot when he promised the option to the fans on day one and couldn't deliver the option coaches that he thought he could get. He then compounded that error by hiring TWO OC's (one being a high school head coach) that had never run the option before and had know idea how to. He then compounded that error by trying to dictate to the OC's how he wanted the option run and told them how to do their jobs even though he had no idea how to either. He then tripled down when he fired those two after year one to save his job, found someone that knew how to run the option in Cook (in theory). Summers then forced Cook to run it the Summers' way instead of letting Cook do it on his own and it failed miserably again. He was a terrible coach that micro managed and forced his way on the coordinators even though he had no idea how to do anything. He mismanaged the players and lost them when the crap started to hit the fan, and he never once answered a question in a way that gave anyone any type of confidence that he had any idea what he was doing. Every press conference made him look more and more lost as they went on and at the end he was more deer in the headlights than anything. It was sad to watch. He was and is the perfect example of what NOT to do when you get hired as a head coach. He took over a very talented team and took everyone to the point where they had no idea what they were doing because it was never the same from one game to the next. And when it started going bad, it went REAL BAD, REAL QUICK.

The above sums it up nicely. Summers post game interview after being blown out by winless UMASS was hard to listen to. It sounded like a man completely beaten down.


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What does this mean for Troy’s early recruits? I assume Troy has to honor the early recruits but does the signee have options with a coaching change?


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(01-04-2019 09:24 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  What does this mean for Troy’s early recruits? I assume Troy has to honor the early recruits but does the signee have options with a coaching change?


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They can file an appeal process with the NCAA to be released from their LOI. The NCAA then would ask Troy if they'll grant the release. If Troy says no, the NCAA reviews Troy's reasoning for not getting a release, and then the NCAA has the final say on if it's a good reason or not and can overrule Troy's decision if hey see things differently.

(01-04-2019 10:35 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 09:24 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  What does this mean for Troy’s early recruits? I assume Troy has to honor the early recruits but does the signee have options with a coaching change?


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They can file an appeal process with the NCAA to be released from their LOI. The NCAA then would ask Troy if they'll grant the release. If Troy says no, the NCAA reviews Troy's reasoning for not getting a release, and then the NCAA has the final say on if it's a good reason or not and can overrule Troy's decision if hey see things differently.

Hopefully it won’t come to that, no win situation for Troy. I hope the new coach can keep the class together, assuming he wants the recruits.


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It would be the right thing to do to grant them a release but hope you retain as many as possible.

As I said with Appy, there will be starters lost to attrition. Transfer, draft, etc.

He never said draft...

(01-05-2019 04:45 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  As I said with Appy, there will be starters lost to attrition. Transfer, draft, etc.

It happens every time at every school that hires a new coach. We know this. Not sure why you keep feeling the need to let everybody know.

Transfers or players leaving happens every year. App had our 5th string RB transfer this year due to likely future playing time.

(01-05-2019 05:31 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  He never said draft...

LOL. Yea, he never did say draft, just loss of starters due to transfer. Starting to change his tune now that 2nd semester is starting and the only starter we're losing is due to draft. They are praying so badly that we fail.

(01-05-2019 10:41 AM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 05:31 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  He never said draft...

LOL. Yea, he never did say draft, just loss of starters due to transfer. Starting to change his tune now that 2nd semester is starting and the only starter we're losing is due to draft. They are praying so badly that we fail.

They? Please don’t lump us all in there. I just want to beat you not have you fail.


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Attrition is always higher when there's a coaching change. Not sure why anyone is upset at someone saying that...

I'm certainly expecting more than is usual at TXST this year too. Though we're in the same boat so far as App apparently, the only starter that has announced he's leaving up to this point is Keenen Brown who declared for the draft.

(01-04-2019 10:35 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 09:24 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  What does this mean for Troy’s early recruits? I assume Troy has to honor the early recruits but does the signee have options with a coaching change?


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They can file an appeal process with the NCAA to be released from their LOI. The NCAA then would ask Troy if they'll grant the release. If Troy says no, the NCAA reviews Troy's reasoning for not getting a release, and then the NCAA has the final say on if it's a good reason or not and can overrule Troy's decision if hey see things differently.

Even if Troy doesn't grant an LOI release, the player can still transfer and lose a year.

The reality is, everybody grants the LOI release. It's not good for recruiting if you don't.