If Troy hires from within, it will be either OC Matt Moore, or DC Vic Koenning.

I feel fairly confident a hire from within will happen, just so continuity can happen, some staff can be retained, and the players will remain happy.

Otherwise, there is going to be some very heavy interest for the HC position at Troy from the outside, especially with the talent that's coming back and has been brought in.

(01-04-2019 02:14 PM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 02:11 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 02:09 PM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  I'm of the belief that there is some ungodly external force that REALLY wants Georgia Southern to win the belt next year.

First us, then Troy. Not saying we're gonna lose control of the belt next year, but Southern officially carries the most momentum.

Time to sacrifice a goat or something

The last thing Boone needs is more domestic violence

Sigh. Set myself up for that one...

Yeah, you didn't think about that one before hitting post reply.

(01-04-2019 02:31 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  If Troy hires from within, it will be either OC Matt Moore, or DC Vic Koenning.

I feel fairly confident a hire from within will happen, just so continuity can happen, some staff can be retained, and the players will remain happy.

Otherwise, there is going to be some very heavy interest for the HC position at Troy from the outside, especially with the talent that's coming back and has been brought in.

Who's Brown taking with him? Do we know?

(01-04-2019 02:34 PM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 02:31 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  If Troy hires from within, it will be either OC Matt Moore, or DC Vic Koenning.

I feel fairly confident a hire from within will happen, just so continuity can happen, some staff can be retained, and the players will remain happy.

Otherwise, there is going to be some very heavy interest for the HC position at Troy from the outside, especially with the talent that's coming back and has been brought in.

Who's Brown taking with him? Do we know?

it's only been public for an hour. I doubt anybody knows that yet. haha

(01-04-2019 02:36 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 02:34 PM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 02:31 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  If Troy hires from within, it will be either OC Matt Moore, or DC Vic Koenning.

I feel fairly confident a hire from within will happen, just so continuity can happen, some staff can be retained, and the players will remain happy.

Otherwise, there is going to be some very heavy interest for the HC position at Troy from the outside, especially with the talent that's coming back and has been brought in.

Who's Brown taking with him? Do we know?

it's only been public for an hour. I doubt anybody knows that yet. haha

I mean, we pretty much knew within the day who was going with Satt, unless they were waiting for the bowl game. Didn't realize it's only been news for an hour though

This late in the game, I would imagine Brown takes a large number of staff with him.

Recruiting dead period ends next week and OV's can start. He'll need to have a staff situated pretty quick to get a jump on that.

(01-04-2019 02:09 PM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  I'm of the belief that there is some ungodly external force that REALLY wants Georgia Southern to win the belt next year.

First us, then Troy. Not saying we're gonna lose control of the belt next year, but Southern officially carries the most momentum.

Time to sacrifice a goat or something

Shouldn't be hard to find a GOAT in Boone!!!!!

(01-04-2019 03:07 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  This late in the game, I would imagine Brown takes a large number of staff with him.

Recruiting dead period ends next week and OV's can start. He'll need to have a staff situated pretty quick to get a jump on that.

He may be keeping some of Holgorsen's staff. According to WV sources, Brown was open to interviewing everyone that was left on staff and possibly retaining some of them... so Troy may not get completely gutted.

(01-02-2019 05:20 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 05:02 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 03:52 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 03:38 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 03:30 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Where are all the GS fans in this conversation? I thought they understood these situations better than anyone. They must be exhausted from the past three weeks of telling App fans what to do while we were hiring a new coach. Lucky for Troy fans.

Troy fans were much less delusional than App fans so it just wasn't as much fun. Sorry to disappoint you.

Yep. Is was pretty obvious how much fun y'all were having. Cherry picking comments and claiming we had no clue what we were doing. Glad y'all have found something better to do than harass Troy fans during this process. Good luck Troy. Hope y'all find someone to continue the tradition if need be.

There are two main differences, 1) Appy had a lot more fans posting about it than Troy fans do right now so there are less posts here to reply to, and 2) we don't have as heated of a rivalry with Troy as we do with Appy. So less balls to bust, and quite simply more reasonable conversation can be had.

Also, you have to admit that SOME of your posters on here were out of their mind and had zero clue how the process worked. SOME did think Satt would never leave because it wasn't about the money for him..... and others were amazed when they found out that the coaching staff would be "gutted". Far be it from us to let gold mine posts like that go without a reply.

Yes, there were some that thought this. Now they know the truth. I'm sure there are some GS fans that are out of touch too. Seems GS fans tried to paint the image of a fan base and athletic department that was clueless because a few people on here had no idea what they were talking about. It seemed to be an obsession of many GS fans. It was annoying as hell. Par for the course I guess.

I don't think anyone was saying your administration didn't know what they were doing. And we weren't saying the fan base as a whole was clueless, just the ones that were writing asinine posts like freaking out two or three days into the process that it was taking too long. Or the ones that were pissed at Satt and surprised he was taking coaches with him. Or the ones that were surprised that the new coach was coming in and bringing some of his own guys in with him. Or the ones that think a position coach was the brains behind the old defense so that they can feel better about the ones that are leaving not being a big deal.

Like I said, we all have posters like that, and we had our share during our HC searches. The biggest thing that got me stirred up and made me continue to post and bust balls was the attitude (by some) that GS fans knew nothing about Appy or your situation and that we had no business even talking about it on here. For me at least, the only team that I want to see fail is Gag St. I've got a 20 year or so respect for Appy and the rivalry that we have built over the years. I don't want to see you fail because it makes the rivalry more fun and it makes the conference look better as a whole when you guys are good. I wouldn't mind you losing every game possible to us for the next couple years to flip the overall record back in our favor, but that's about it. Some assume that we are busting balls and mocking Appy in this search because we like to make you look bad. We don't. It's a message board and busting balls is just want you do.

(01-04-2019 12:09 PM)stAte_3 Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 12:00 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 11:55 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  http://footballscoop.com/news/sources-ne...-virginia/


Bummer, Troy bros.


Sun Belt putting good coaches in the P5 though

Oh well, next man up! Glad we had him for 4 years.

The good thing is that Brown leaves the cupboard loaded. Next season will still be a good one, no matter who the coach is.

Coaching matters. Not saying you won’t have a successful season, but you need someone that knows how to use that talent.

I was going to say the same thing. Coaching DOES matter. Look at us in 2016-17 to now. I don't expect that you're AD will pull a Summers out of thin air like ours did, but it happens.

(01-04-2019 02:34 PM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 02:31 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  If Troy hires from within, it will be either OC Matt Moore, or DC Vic Koenning.

I feel fairly confident a hire from within will happen, just so continuity can happen, some staff can be retained, and the players will remain happy.

Otherwise, there is going to be some very heavy interest for the HC position at Troy from the outside, especially with the talent that's coming back and has been brought in.

Who's Brown taking with him? Do we know?

Everyone. Every coach who ever leaves a program takes everyone with them. App learned that the hard way. He will take everyone.

Just ask Southern fans. Guys and gals, won't Neal Brown take everyone? Especially his OC and DC?

Seriously, if Neal Brown owes much of his success to Vic, it doesn't make sense for him to not make an offer that he can't refuse.

"You come into my office on the day of my leaving Troy, and ask me...."

Lest Georgia Southern fans forget, Troy was nearly in the same boat as App in regards to lack of coaching turn over. Blakenly was there for a while and then the young gun Brown came in and took things over. Troy fans don't know how to handle a coaching change. Please, enlighten them.

(01-04-2019 01:23 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 01:14 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Seeing Brown's buyout may be more in the $300k range? I know a national football writer weighed in on this several weeks back but I don't think there's been anything concrete.

Not real sure. There are different numbers everywhere. I also read that Neal Brown's buyout can be cut in half by West Virginia if they agree to a home-and-home series with Troy.

That's a great negotiating tool. I like the way he's thinking.

(01-04-2019 02:09 PM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  I'm of the belief that there is some ungodly external force that REALLY wants Georgia Southern to win the belt next year.

First us, then Troy. Not saying we're gonna lose control of the belt next year, but Southern officially carries the most momentum.

Time to sacrifice a goat or something

I thought y'all did other things to goats....

(01-04-2019 03:50 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 12:09 PM)stAte_3 Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 12:00 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 11:55 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  http://footballscoop.com/news/sources-ne...-virginia/


Bummer, Troy bros.


Sun Belt putting good coaches in the P5 though

Oh well, next man up! Glad we had him for 4 years.

The good thing is that Brown leaves the cupboard loaded. Next season will still be a good one, no matter who the coach is.

Coaching matters. Not saying you won’t have a successful season, but you need someone that knows how to use that talent.

I was going to say the same thing. Coaching DOES matter. Look at us in 2016-17 to now. I don't expect that you're AD will pull a Summers out of thin air like ours did, but it happens.

Especially to App and now to Troy.

Southern fans still saying "Woe is us" for the Summers era. Georgia Southern's issue was offense in 2016 and 2017. It wasn't exactly because of Summers coaching but his lack of administrative ability to make the right hire. He saw the option as a high school offense so he went out and hired high school coaches.

(01-04-2019 04:11 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 01:23 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 01:14 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Seeing Brown's buyout may be more in the $300k range? I know a national football writer weighed in on this several weeks back but I don't think there's been anything concrete.

Not real sure. There are different numbers everywhere. I also read that Neal Brown's buyout can be cut in half by West Virginia if they agree to a home-and-home series with Troy.

That's a great negotiating tool. I like the way he's thinking.

$300,000....thye aren't traveling to Troy. They'd most definitely pay the $300,000 and then pay Troy $1 mm to travel to Morgantown Hollar

(01-04-2019 03:46 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 03:07 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  This late in the game, I would imagine Brown takes a large number of staff with him.

Recruiting dead period ends next week and OV's can start. He'll need to have a staff situated pretty quick to get a jump on that.

He may be keeping some of Holgorsen's staff. According to WV sources, Brown was open to interviewing everyone that was left on staff and possibly retaining some of them... so Troy may not get completely gutted.

That's a pretty standard response. He wouldn't blanketly rule anyone that is currently there out until he has a chance to meet with them. I'm sure he has an idea of who he's wanting to bring with him, though. Even though it's only been official for about an hour, I guarantee he's talked with the coaches he wants to take and gauged their reaction to the possibility.

Congratulations to Coach Brown. Success at WVU would position him well to move up to the SEC and his semi-alma mater UK someday. Taking on Oklahoma and Texas every year will be a huge challenge and an interesting study of how well success with G5 resources against the best of the SBC translates to success with P5 resources against the best of the Big 12. There is a lot of excellent high school talent in the states around WVU. I suspect he will do well.

(01-04-2019 04:01 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Lest Georgia Southern fans forget, Troy was nearly in the same boat as App in regards to lack of coaching turn over. Blakenly was there for a while and then the young gun Brown came in and took things over. Troy fans don't know how to handle a coaching change. Please, enlighten them.

It’s two different scenarios.

At App, Jerry Moore retired and they made an internal hire that ended up working out in Satterfield. Y’all just had to perform your first real coaching search in a long time.

At Troy, Larry Blakeny retired and Troy immediately launched a national coaching search where they hired Neal Brown. Now that Brown is departing, they will have to make another one only 4 years later.

Clearly Troy has already proven very recently that they are capable of executing a successful coaching search whereas the jury is still out on App State.

(01-04-2019 04:00 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 02:34 PM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 02:31 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  If Troy hires from within, it will be either OC Matt Moore, or DC Vic Koenning.

I feel fairly confident a hire from within will happen, just so continuity can happen, some staff can be retained, and the players will remain happy.

Otherwise, there is going to be some very heavy interest for the HC position at Troy from the outside, especially with the talent that's coming back and has been brought in.

Who's Brown taking with him? Do we know?

Everyone. Every coach who ever leaves a program takes everyone with them. App learned that the hard way. He will take everyone.

Just ask Southern fans. Guys and gals, won't Neal Brown take everyone? Especially his OC and DC?

Seriously, if Neal Brown owes much of his success to Vic, it doesn't make sense for him to not make an offer that he can't refuse.

"You come into my office on the day of my leaving Troy, and ask me...."

Everyone? I hope at least he won't take T-Roy with him then... :/