(04-09-2018 05:34 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I do not think you easily diminish the interest of UConn's fan base with its former Big East brethren. The numbers clearly support otherwise. Fans will still come and support programs when there are regional rivalries in-play. In the AAC, UConn has no regional rivals.

Given their passion for the Big East, it's interesting they got down on their knees for the Big XII.

(04-09-2018 05:38 PM)McKinney Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 05:34 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I do not think you easily diminish the interest of UConn's fan base with its former Big East brethren. The numbers clearly support otherwise. Fans will still come and support programs when there are regional rivalries in-play. In the AAC, UConn has no regional rivals.

Given their passion for the Big East, it's interesting they got down on their knees for the Big XII.

The fans weren't all about the Big 12 so much as they were all about getting out of the AAC (and obviously the school was all about the potential paychecks). You can put up with awful geography if it means getting to play Kansas, Texas, and West Virginia (among others) in basketball every year.

I for one would like to apologize to UConn. If my Alma mater, Cincinnati, did not suck so bad the Huskies would have had better recruiting, more fan turnout and better men’s basketball teams the past few years.

(04-09-2018 07:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I for one would like to apologize to UConn. If my Alma mater, Cincinnati, did not suck so bad the Huskies would have had better recruiting, more fan turnout and better men’s basketball teams the past few years.

Too bad the AAC allowed uconn to keep their tier 3 rights too unlike any other school in the conference

(04-09-2018 08:36 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 07:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I for one would like to apologize to UConn. If my Alma mater, Cincinnati, did not suck so bad the Huskies would have had better recruiting, more fan turnout and better men’s basketball teams the past few years.

Too bad the AAC allowed uconn to keep their tier 3 rights too unlike any other school in the conference

IS that a unique UConn carveout, or is it that UConn is the only AAC school whose local rights are worth anything?

(04-09-2018 08:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:36 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 07:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I for one would like to apologize to UConn. If my Alma mater, Cincinnati, did not suck so bad the Huskies would have had better recruiting, more fan turnout and better men’s basketball teams the past few years.

Too bad the AAC allowed uconn to keep their tier 3 rights too unlike any other school in the conference

IS that a unique UConn carveout, or is it that UConn is the only AAC school whose local rights are worth anything?

lol....yes and yes.

(04-09-2018 08:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:36 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 07:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I for one would like to apologize to UConn. If my Alma mater, Cincinnati, did not suck so bad the Huskies would have had better recruiting, more fan turnout and better men’s basketball teams the past few years.

Too bad the AAC allowed uconn to keep their tier 3 rights too unlike any other school in the conference

IS that a unique UConn carveout, or is it that UConn is the only AAC school whose local rights are worth anything?

lol....yes and yes.

You may correct me if I’m wrong but I seem to remember they have a local deal for the women’s team worth about $3,000,000.

If the conference tv partner won’t show it, I have no problem with the school making money on it locally.

I’m wondering if the Big East would allow them to have such a side deal.

(04-09-2018 08:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:36 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 07:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I for one would like to apologize to UConn. If my Alma mater, Cincinnati, did not suck so bad the Huskies would have had better recruiting, more fan turnout and better men’s basketball teams the past few years.

Too bad the AAC allowed uconn to keep their tier 3 rights too unlike any other school in the conference

IS that a unique UConn carveout, or is it that UConn is the only AAC school whose local rights are worth anything?

lol....yes and yes.

You may correct me if I’m wrong but I seem to remember they have a local deal for the women’s team worth about $3,000,000.

If the conference tv partner won’t show it, I have no problem with the school making money on it locally.

I’m wondering if the Big East would allow them to have such a side deal.

I heard the 3 million figure. It may in fact be 3 million---but I dont think its actually 3 million a year (I could be wrong--but I dont think so). My guess is the 3 mil is for a multi-year deal. That said, no other AAC team is getting 3 million for something like womens basketball.

(04-09-2018 09:05 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:36 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Too bad the AAC allowed uconn to keep their tier 3 rights too unlike any other school in the conference

IS that a unique UConn carveout, or is it that UConn is the only AAC school whose local rights are worth anything?

lol....yes and yes.

You may correct me if I’m wrong but I seem to remember they have a local deal for the women’s team worth about $3,000,000.

If the conference tv partner won’t show it, I have no problem with the school making money on it locally.

I’m wondering if the Big East would allow them to have such a side deal.

I heard the 3 million figure. It may in fact be 3 million---but I dont think its actually 3 million a year (I could be wrong--but I dont think so). My guess is the 3 mil is for a multi-year deal.

Ah, I get it now. UConn would be better without the preferential treatment

Gavin Keefe
@GavinKeefe

UConn hopes to play more former Big East rivals in the future, according to athletic director David Benedict.

(04-09-2018 08:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:36 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 07:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I for one would like to apologize to UConn. If my Alma mater, Cincinnati, did not suck so bad the Huskies would have had better recruiting, more fan turnout and better men’s basketball teams the past few years.

Too bad the AAC allowed uconn to keep their tier 3 rights too unlike any other school in the conference

IS that a unique UConn carveout, or is it that UConn is the only AAC school whose local rights are worth anything?

lol....yes and yes.

Looks like the AAC is chock-full of special deals and cut-outs. UConn hoops to Big East while football remains in AAC seems quite feasible, eh?

(04-10-2018 01:13 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Gavin Keefe
@GavinKeefe

UConn hopes to play more former Big East rivals in the future, according to athletic director David Benedict.

that would make it seem like they're remaining in the AAC.

(04-10-2018 01:31 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:36 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 07:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I for one would like to apologize to UConn. If my Alma mater, Cincinnati, did not suck so bad the Huskies would have had better recruiting, more fan turnout and better men’s basketball teams the past few years.

Too bad the AAC allowed uconn to keep their tier 3 rights too unlike any other school in the conference

IS that a unique UConn carveout, or is it that UConn is the only AAC school whose local rights are worth anything?

lol....yes and yes.

Looks like the AAC is chock-full of special deals and cut-outs. UConn hoops to Big East while football remains in AAC seems quite feasible, eh?

not really. They aren't going to help UConn **** them. Absolutely no reason for them to do so.

(04-10-2018 01:31 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 08:36 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 07:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I for one would like to apologize to UConn. If my Alma mater, Cincinnati, did not suck so bad the Huskies would have had better recruiting, more fan turnout and better men’s basketball teams the past few years.

Too bad the AAC allowed uconn to keep their tier 3 rights too unlike any other school in the conference

IS that a unique UConn carveout, or is it that UConn is the only AAC school whose local rights are worth anything?

lol....yes and yes.

Looks like the AAC is chock-full of special deals and cut-outs. UConn hoops to Big East while football remains in AAC seems quite feasible, eh?

There are cut outs for to keep valuable assets. If ECU were to approach the AAC about getting a larger share of basketball revenue in order to keep ECU basketball in the league---my guess is the reaction would not be favorable. UConn football would not be in a strong negotiating position.

(04-10-2018 01:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:13 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Gavin Keefe
@GavinKeefe

UConn hopes to play more former Big East rivals in the future, according to athletic director David Benedict.

that would make it seem like they're remaining in the AAC.

That's how I read that too - that when it comes time to build future OOC schedules you'll see fewer Arizonas and Auburns and more Georgetowns and St John's...es? It does mean that the athletic department is starting to take notice of how the fan base feels, though, and the bump in ticket sales they get when they play teams from the Big East (and yes, it probably includes Cuse/Pitt/ND as well).

(04-10-2018 04:23 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:13 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Gavin Keefe
@GavinKeefe

UConn hopes to play more former Big East rivals in the future, according to athletic director David Benedict.

that would make it seem like they're remaining in the AAC.

That's how I read that too - that when it comes time to build future OOC schedules you'll see fewer Arizonas and Auburns and more Georgetowns and St John's...es? It does mean that the athletic department is starting to take notice of how the fan base feels, though, and the bump in ticket sales they get when they play teams from the Big East (and yes, it probably includes Cuse/Pitt/ND as well).

The Big East shouldn't let UConn's stay in the AAC be easy. Don't let them mask fan disinterest in the AAC schedule by scheduling lots of OOC games.

Put some gentle pressure on them: You want to play Villanova and St Johns and Georgetown more? Join the Big East.

(04-10-2018 02:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:31 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Looks like the AAC is chock-full of special deals and cut-outs. UConn hoops to Big East while football remains in AAC seems quite feasible, eh?

There are cut outs for to keep valuable assets. If ECU were to approach the AAC about getting a larger share of basketball revenue in order to keep ECU basketball in the league---my guess is the reaction would not be favorable. UConn football would not be in a strong negotiating position.

We just fundamentally disagree with this. IMO, UConn football is pretty valuable, the AAC is definitely stronger with UConn football than without it, and if UConn decided to take their hoops elsewhere but keep their football in the AAC, the AAC would be cutting off its nose in spite to try and boot their football out.

And heck, since UConn is a founding AAC member, I'm not even sure the bylaws would make it easy to boot them. Good luck if a bunch of schools that joined in 2013 try to kick out an OG member.

(04-09-2018 05:03 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The travel cost difference isn't anywhere near as great as you think given that the Big East is all the way out to Nebraska now. The TV revenue is a bunk argument given that the CFP money would be lost, making that equal at best RIGHT NOW. And that's before the AAC tv deal is up in 2 years. Ticket Sales- lets see what happens when UConn's program is healthy. The reason why ticket sales sucked this year wasn't the AAC, it was the fact that UConn was a crap team.

I really think if UConn is going to leave for the Big East, it's really got to happen before the AAC TV deal is redone. Because with the increase the AAC will get, that's going to make the money part that much more in favor of the AAC(before you even talk with the 10 million dollar exit fee). I really don't think there's any chance UConn frankly leaves until 2025 at the very earliest.

for what its worth, Omaha would be the furthest point. it is still closer than Dallas, Houston, Tulsa, Wichita and new Orleans. Tampa and Orlando are about 100 or so miles closer to Storrs than Omaha.

(04-10-2018 04:31 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 02:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:31 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Looks like the AAC is chock-full of special deals and cut-outs. UConn hoops to Big East while football remains in AAC seems quite feasible, eh?

There are cut outs for to keep valuable assets. If ECU were to approach the AAC about getting a larger share of basketball revenue in order to keep ECU basketball in the league---my guess is the reaction would not be favorable. UConn football would not be in a strong negotiating position.

We just fundamentally disagree with this. IMO, UConn football is pretty valuable, the AAC is definitely stronger with UConn football than without it, and if UConn decided to take their hoops elsewhere but keep their football in the AAC, the AAC would be cutting off its nose in spite to try and boot their football out.

And heck, since UConn is a founding AAC member, I'm not even sure the bylaws would make it easy to boot them. Good luck if a bunch of schools that joined in 2013 try to kick out an OG member.

Then they will be fine on their own.

(04-09-2018 05:12 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 10:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 10:00 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 02:56 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 02:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  ECU really has no brand value of any kind these days, football or basketball.

UConn is UConn, the brand they built in hoops has rubbed off to an extent on football. Plus, they are a good academic school, a flagship, and have easily the biggest athletic budget. Not comparable to ECU in any way.

UConn has absolutely no brand in football. NONE.

As far as your claim that the AAC wouldn't have the right to kick them out- of course they would. They would, and they absolutely would use that right to do just that. And UConn probably knows that. Anyone with a functional brain knows that. But you see, you want UConn in the Big East so bad that you think the AAC would screw themselves to allow UConn to do it. The AAC isn't going to help UConn in any fashion. Why should they?

we still build a program in a power conference and made 5 bowls (4 straight) including the fiesta bowl in like our first 10 years. that's more then a lot of new programs can say...we may not be Michigan but we are a bigger brand then UMass in football...that success still has to mean something.

Bigger brand than UMass in football. Wow, such high standards. Whoop de dam doo.

As a proud alum of ECU let's just take it easy on the Pirates guys (especially Quo even though I'm sure you stand by everything you've stated about us). I know that some of you don't give f... about us & I'm sure a lot of the country doesn't either but I do feel compelled to defend our fine institution and our athletic standing and potential specifically.

Yes, we've been going through a little lull but we're starting to wake up out of our slumber. Basketball will be much improved with Dooley at the helm.





It's put up or shut up time in football. With our toxic AD gone people are beginning to open up their wallets and support the program again. Looks like there's a good chance that ECU's current athletic advisor, Dave Hart, will assume full AD duties after this interim period (He was ECU's AD in 1992 when the Pirates finished #9 in both football polls & subsequently he went on to be the AD for FSU, Alabama & Tenn).

ECU football will be back & ECU has more support football wise than any other school in the AAC. As historically bad (by our standards) as we've been the last 2 years we did still beat UCONN both x we played in football and even pulled out a victory over UCONN basketball last year (not bragging just an interesting fact) and have led the league in attendance. We're just a season removed from defeating NCSU (3rd time in a row) to become the 1st non-p5 school to defeat a single p5 conference 6 consecutive games in football (NCSU 2x, VT 2x, & UNC 2x). We are also currently under construction to create what will be the nicest stadium outside of the p5 & one of the largest OCS (52k capacity).





Finally, I would be remiss if I didn't give a shout out to the #7 nationally ranked ECU baseball team. Yes, down here in the south we do care about baseball & it's a sport that's slowly gaining traction for it's tv appeal.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/artic...-latest-d1

Yes, I'm biased but I think if looked at objectively, ECU has a lot of value/potential and has enough history as a solid football program to not be summarily dismissed as an afterthought. I believe the ebb & flow of college athletics will soon yield a much more visible and valuable ECU athletic profile than most can imagine at this point in time.

& now that I've got my shameless self-promotion of my university out of the way:

As to this thread, yes UCONN is a valuable brand (perhaps the most valuable in the AAC) but they need us as much as we need them for a lot of the reasons already alluded to in this thread. The AAC contract will soon be renegotiated and will be more than enough to keep them in the fold. Since 2018 began, the AAC has had top 10 teams in football, basketball, women's basketball, as well as baseball (all by different institutions) which not even all the P5 conferences can claim. So the AAC is a very balanced and strong league with a great upside. Maybe I'm not a cynic or as despondent as many on this board. I admittedly prefer to look at the bright side of things (which has its benefits as well as its flaws) and thus I do think that the marriage between UCONN and the AAC will be a fruitful one for all sides given our collective circumstances. After all, most unions are either out of necessity or convenience & that rings true for this discussion as well.

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