(11-26-2017 06:12 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 06:07 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Our next president will be a Democrat and isn't on that list. Who it will be - I have no idea. It might be someone no one is even considering - something as crazy as Ivanka Trump who will be so mad at Daddy for firing her from the White House that she runs against him as a Democrat in 2020.

Tag this post and open it back up November 2020.

Lol.

Geeeeez.

It’s already starting to congeal, even petrify, the TDS that is.

Where and what will this look like by ‘20, even ‘24?!?

M’gosh.

Saw today that gun sales are up something like 27% in certain areas. Is that the left arming up on .22’s and such?

Better stiffen up on the wrist musculature as well...

El O El.

(11-27-2017 06:50 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 10:59 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Sherrod Brown wouldn't even carry his home state of Ohio.

Trump didn't carry his home state - wasn't even close.

I do think the Democrats need a strong candidate to emerge from the upper Midwest or deep South. But I don't believe Brown is that guy. By 2020 or 2024 I think we'll get a celebrity or athlete making a serious run. People will laugh but how is that any different than Reagan or Trump? I thought some people were saying Lebron James should make a serious run? If Peyton Manning runs for Senator and wins, maybe that will motivate someone. But I'll pass on Charles Barkley - he's not a strong enough golfer.

Right. Try to win as a democrat and not win your home state of Ohio.

New York hasn't had any serious campaigning done in it since 1988 for a reason.

(11-27-2017 07:07 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 06:50 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 10:59 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Sherrod Brown wouldn't even carry his home state of Ohio.

Trump didn't carry his home state - wasn't even close.

I do think the Democrats need a strong candidate to emerge from the upper Midwest or deep South. But I don't believe Brown is that guy. By 2020 or 2024 I think we'll get a celebrity or athlete making a serious run. People will laugh but how is that any different than Reagan or Trump? I thought some people were saying Lebron James should make a serious run? If Peyton Manning runs for Senator and wins, maybe that will motivate someone. But I'll pass on Charles Barkley - he's not a strong enough golfer.

Right. Try to win as a democrat and not win your home state of Ohio.

New York hasn't had any serious campaigning done in it since 1988 for a reason.

Reagan was governor of California and involved in politics for a long time before 1980.

Well JMU Dunk seems to think Pence will carry New York (or maybe he's counting on California?).

We will never have another 1984 or 1972 trouncing again. At the very least, California, NY, Hawaii, DC and a few other west coast and NE states will go blue every time; and most of the Deep South and Mountain West will go red.

(11-26-2017 09:50 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 08:45 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 06:53 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 04:53 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

Quote:Democrats predict that as many as 30 candidates will compete in their party’s presidential primary in 2020...

The Hill interviewed nearly a dozen prominent Democrats to find out who has captured the party’s attention in recent months and who has fallen out of favor.

In case you don't feel like clicking:

1. Bernie
2. Biden
3. Fauxcohontas
4. Kamala Harris
5. Sherrod Brown
6. Deval Patrick

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/361...contenders

1. not even a dem and will be 80
2. pedophile
3. unhinged alt-leftist
4. california values
5. no huge negatives, but doesn't really move the needle
6. who? no, seriously.

The next Democratic candidate will likely be a billlionaire CEO.

Cuban? I had same thought. Like him or not, he is very smart and would dominate a debate against anyone else on that list.

he's already stated he would run as ®....

'course it's still early.......he could easily change his mind....

hell, IIRC, most on this board had DJT running as either (D) or (I)....

(11-26-2017 08:48 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  The door is opening wide for an Independent (I) POTUS.

Your independent president was sworn in back in January.

(11-26-2017 06:41 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Biden would have been the right choice this past year... I don't know if he'll have it in 2020..

His window closed in light of the heightened awareness of sexual abuse. With the number of heads rolling now, I expect he'll keep his down and evaporate into the ether.

(11-26-2017 09:50 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 08:45 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 06:53 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 04:53 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

Quote:Democrats predict that as many as 30 candidates will compete in their party’s presidential primary in 2020...

The Hill interviewed nearly a dozen prominent Democrats to find out who has captured the party’s attention in recent months and who has fallen out of favor.

In case you don't feel like clicking:

1. Bernie
2. Biden
3. Fauxcohontas
4. Kamala Harris
5. Sherrod Brown
6. Deval Patrick

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/361...contenders

1. not even a dem and will be 80
2. pedophile
3. unhinged alt-leftist
4. california values
5. no huge negatives, but doesn't really move the needle
6. who? no, seriously.

The next Democratic candidate will likely be a billlionaire CEO.

Cuban? I had same thought. Like him or not, he is very smart and would dominate a debate against anyone else on that list.

You mean Donald Trump 2.0? Sure I guess.

People forget Trump ran in the primaries in 2012. If Cuban wants to do this, he will need one cycle to develop an organization and expertise needed.

(11-26-2017 06:40 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 06:18 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 06:07 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Our next president will be a Democrat and isn't on that list. Who it will be - I have no idea. It might be someone no one is even considering - something as crazy as Ivanka Trump who will be so mad at Daddy for firing her from the White House that she runs against him as a Democrat in 2020.

Tag this post and open it back up November 2020.

Owl were you on the betting thread who predicted Hillary over Trump, you picked Hillary yes?

I don't recall specifically any bets that anyone took me up. I do think I offered a leave this site bet but no one responded to me so I let it go. People don't come after me like other libs for some reason.

From the get go though, I was annoyed with Hillary as the Democratic choice in 2016. I told my ultra-liberal brothers in December 2015 she was an awful choice and wasn't a sure thing to win. I voted for Bernie in the primary and her in November, but was never 'With Her', that's for sure.

That's probably why people don't come at you like other libs. At least you aren't completely delusional.

(11-26-2017 08:45 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 06:53 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 04:53 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

Quote:Democrats predict that as many as 30 candidates will compete in their party’s presidential primary in 2020...

The Hill interviewed nearly a dozen prominent Democrats to find out who has captured the party’s attention in recent months and who has fallen out of favor.

In case you don't feel like clicking:

1. Bernie
2. Biden
3. Fauxcohontas
4. Kamala Harris
5. Sherrod Brown
6. Deval Patrick

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/361...contenders

1. not even a dem and will be 80
2. pedophile
3. unhinged alt-leftist
4. california values
5. no huge negatives, but doesn't really move the needle
6. who? no, seriously.

The next Democratic candidate will likely be a billlionaire CEO.

mark this down for future reference.

Deval Patrick is a millionaire former executive. And he's Black. But I just don't think he has "it."

I thought Cuban was a big time Demoncrap. I still wouldn't vote for him as a Rep.

(11-27-2017 09:44 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 08:48 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  The door is opening wide for an Independent (I) POTUS.

Your independent president was sworn in back in January.

it's sad how many on this board whiffed that premise......

he only ran ® b/c it was best method....

IMO, too many people get rankled over party lines.....

that's the silliest problem between the two parties as they exist today....hell, it's why I truly despise politics.....

#brokenrecord

(11-27-2017 10:46 AM)Claw Wrote:  People forget Trump ran in the primaries in 2012. If Cuban wants to do this, he will need one cycle to develop an organization and expertise needed.

Not true. On May 16, 2011 — about 8-9 months before the first primary — Trump publicly stated that he wouldn’t be a candidate in 2012.

(11-27-2017 09:44 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 08:48 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  The door is opening wide for an Independent (I) POTUS.

Your independent president was sworn in back in January.

I thought he ran as Republican...my bad.

From what I hear, Martin O'Malley has been camped out in Iowa and will be a factor in the 2020 primaries.

(11-26-2017 04:53 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

Quote:Democrats predict that as many as 30 candidates will compete in their party’s presidential primary in 2020...

The Hill interviewed nearly a dozen prominent Democrats to find out who has captured the party’s attention in recent months and who has fallen out of favor.

In case you don't feel like clicking:

1. Bernie
2. Biden
3. Fauxcohontas
4. Kamala Harris
5. Sherrod Brown
6. Deval Patrick

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/361...contenders

1. Senator Elizabeth Warren
2. VP Biden
3. Senator Kamala Harris
4. Senator Cory Booker
5. Senator Kirstin Gillibrand
6. Senator Sherrod Brown
7. Governor Deval Patrick
8. Billionaire Tom Steyer
9. Senator Bernie Sanders
10. Secretary Julian Castro

I think the primary field will be immense. Note that Booker might need to decide between a slam dunk reelection to the Senate and a run for the Presidency.

Progressive field

Sanders, Harris, Steyer, Warren, Brown - I think Warren takes all the wind out Sanders' sails.

Moderate field

Patrick, Castro, Biden, Gillibrand, Booker

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Oddlly enough, I think the progressives dump Bernie. It seems to me that Steyer is really making some strong moves right now. I think he runs, and he's precisely the kind of candidate that can do well in an Iowa caucus. The big question for a white progressive candidate is this...can you actually win the votes of African American and Hispanic voters, who sometimes back more moderate candidates or the one seen as more electable? If Kamela Harris gets out of Iowa and New Hampshire intact, she'd be formidable going forward.

The moderates are an interesting bunch. I'm thinking that Booker or Gillibrand are the more likely ones to move forward.

(11-28-2017 07:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  From what I hear, Martin O'Malley has been camped out in Iowa and will be a factor in the 2020 primaries.

He'll have to beat back the likes of Lincoln Chafee



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(11-28-2017 07:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  From what I hear, Martin O'Malley has been camped out in Iowa and will be a factor in the 2020 primaries.

For whatever reason, O'Malley isn't going to get much traction. In order to beat Trump you have to be more alpha than he is. He's a very nice man, but he's not going to be the Democratic nominee for President in 2020.