(10-30-2017 12:01 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:43 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Yes we will..... thank god for Mueller or these bastards would have gotten away with it.

lol

Manafort was already under investigation, apparently.

Mueller got to tie it up to save face on this farce.

Trump or “collusion” appear exactly NOWHERE in any of this...

Falls flat on its face. Splat.

You do realize this is like the top of second inning right? You act like it's over.

The real question to me is why Manafort would take ANY high profile position with his little scheme going. Seems like he had avoided major trouble even in the face of a nearly a decade of scrutiny until he joined the Trump campaign.

(10-30-2017 12:00 PM)solohawks Wrote:  It would be interesting if he pitched the Russian meeting after the arrest. That would imply the Feds were trying to set Trump up

Hmmmm. Good catch.

That would be interesting, and further drag mueller into the depths of this thing.

Papa facing between ZERO! To six months for lying about the dates of conversations with the Russian professor... nothingburgers are insulted by being dragged into this.

And NOW!

Tony pedo-desta stepping down from the group he founded. Under investigation...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.......


Buckle up!!!!!!!!

(10-30-2017 12:08 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 12:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  He pitched the meeting and met Putin’s niece....... this is not going to end well. He’s been cooperating for weeks. Also Manafort wasn’t perp walked with guys in FBI windbreakers. That’s a clue too.

If Trump and putin are BFFs why on God's green earth would the campaign need a 30 year old lackey with no experience to connect them???

Trump needed people to help him paved the way to have a better relationship between us and Russia. I considered Russia a state sponsor of terrorists.

(10-30-2017 12:13 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  The real question to me is why Manafort would take ANY high profile position with his little scheme going. Seems like he had avoided major trouble even in the face of a nearly a decade of scrutiny until he joined the Trump campaign.

Indeed. And you know he is regretting that now. These guys have egos that make them think they are untouchable. That's all it boils down to. See it all the time.

(10-30-2017 09:38 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  [quote='Machiavelli' pid='14727504' dateline='1509374188']
You guys think that this came out now because of the Uranium One. What you should be realizing is they came up with that because they knew this was coming.


Collusion is never going to be proven. They are professionals. You are not goin g to leave tracks there unless someone was extremely careless. The low hanging fruit is money laundering.

What I am wondering is if the calls for Trump to release his taxes will get much much much louder. If we had a D Congress we would know. These R’s are as useless as Tits on a boat hog when you are counting on them to investigate one of their own.

No, this came out inspite of the Uranium Deal. That's another whole investigation. Mule-er has a hand in this one and he sure better not be the special prosecutor for it. He'd do a Clinton and try to bury it.

Killery was a professional and yet she screwed up the e-mail thingy. I guess she wasn't too professional.

IF you had a Demon Congress. Thanks to your god Oblunder the Demons lost a lot of seats in a whole bunch of offices. Now, that's incompetence or were lost because the Demon administration didn't pass the smell test.

I'm just laughing at this nonsense. It's a big nothing on Trump. And Mach is running around with a hardon like he took a double dose of Viagra.

(10-30-2017 12:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  ..... this is not going to end well.

You've been saying this for, well, for as long as I can remember. So far, I've had nothing but happy endings.

(10-30-2017 11:44 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:37 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Looks like the dominoes are starting to fall. Hopefully the 'zOMG BUT WHAT ABOUT HILLARY" Russian bots keep their yammering down or to another thread so we can all focus. I think we can all agree that anyone breaking the law deserves to be punished. This is the beginning of the end for Trump I think. These 2 and Papa are just the beginning I bet. Papa sang for a month.

Since you're exhorted us to focus, could you lay out a scenario as to how this ultimately translates into Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election?

I'll hang up and listen.

I thought not.

(10-30-2017 12:13 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 12:01 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:43 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Yes we will..... thank god for Mueller or these bastards would have gotten away with it.

lol

Manafort was already under investigation, apparently.

Mueller got to tie it up to save face on this farce.

Trump or “collusion” appear exactly NOWHERE in any of this...

Falls flat on its face. Splat.

You do realize this is like the top of second inning right? You act like it's over.

Don’t realize anything of the sort. Don’t know if this is the top of the second, or a dropped Hail Mary in the end zone to end the game.

Any more or less than you do.

What I DO know is neither Trump nor “collusion” appear anywhere in what has been fanfared out there so far. *yawn.

(10-30-2017 12:25 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  I'm just laughing at this nonsense. It's a big nothing on Trump. And Mach is running around with a hardon like he took a double dose of Viagra.

yep

(10-30-2017 12:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  He pitched the meeting and met Putin’s niece....... this is not going to end well. He’s been cooperating for weeks. Also Manafort wasn’t perp walked with guys in FBI windbreakers. That’s a clue too.

(10-30-2017 12:13 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  The real question to me is why Manafort would take ANY high profile position with his little scheme going. Seems like he had avoided major trouble even in the face of a nearly a decade of scrutiny until he joined the Trump campaign.

Agreed. One would think he'd have shopped his wares to the Clinton crowd where criminal activity is actually a requirment.

(10-30-2017 09:56 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 09:53 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You guys keep glossing over the fact that Trump won’t release his taxes. Does Mueller have access to these?

They have obviously been released to the IRS. I'm guessing the IRS hasn't found anything illegal with them or we would know.

A nothing burger......

Creb, give it up. Mach's too dumb to realize that if there was something on Trumps taxes the MSM, the OBlunder IRS, the Clinton machine would be crowing about it a lonnnnnggg time ago. I don't even know why you guys even answer his posts. He's a pretty dull bulb and that's why I have him on ignore.

Read through the indictment. It's basically tax evasion on manafort's work with Ukraine, hiding funds, and failing to disclose his work and accounts on government paperwork. Nothing to do with the President or election.

More pointing and laughing, Mock, er...Mach.

(10-30-2017 12:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 12:13 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  The real question to me is why Manafort would take ANY high profile position with his little scheme going. Seems like he had avoided major trouble even in the face of a nearly a decade of scrutiny until he joined the Trump campaign.

Agreed. One would think he'd have shopped his wares to the Clinton crowd where criminal activity is actually a requirment.

one word.....looking for forgiveness down the road....okay, that was six

what I see is this is nothing more than the calm before the storm.....

pedo-sto resigned today.....

this engine is only getting primed.....

(10-30-2017 10:38 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:33 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:31 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Manafort, Gates and Papapoulos all charged. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty of lying to the feds before Mueller was put in place. If Trump had nothing to do with this? Then, he picked wrong people who had shady pasts to help run his campaign.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/p...index.html

And the crime in picking people with shady pasts to help run his campaign?

It shows how bad Trump's judgement of character of who he picked to work for him. It will cost him big time, and he would become a lame duck President.

His picks and judgment pale in comparison to Killery's faux pas'. I doubt that the people who voted for him will hold that against him. The people who didn't probably won't but I'd venture to say that he's gained a LOT of Never Trumpers in this short time. If he runs again I'd put odds on him to do it again.

(10-30-2017 12:48 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 09:56 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 09:53 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You guys keep glossing over the fact that Trump won’t release his taxes. Does Mueller have access to these?

They have obviously been released to the IRS. I'm guessing the IRS hasn't found anything illegal with them or we would know.

A nothing burger......

Creb, give it up. Mach's too dumb to realize that if there was something on Trumps taxes the MSM, the OBlunder IRS, the Clinton machine would be crowing about it a lonnnnnggg time ago. I don't even know why you guys even answer his posts. He's a pretty dull bulb and that's why I have him on ignore.

Mach's no dummy......however, when he goes on 'tilt', he's like a pit bull that won't let go....

Mach is failing at levels that shouldn't even be possible. Going to be hilarious when all this does is open up the can of worms on tony podesta --> john "skippy" podesta --> hrc