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RE: Should the A-Sun look to expand?
You hit the nail on the head. We must have strong OOC wins as well as strong OOC scheduling. It’s the only way. Adding 3 more games against teams ranked 200-350 does nothing.

Strong OOC scheduling combined with some wins is the only remedy.

That being said, I am very happy about the new additions to the ASUN.
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(11-18-2020 05:57 PM)army56mike Wrote:  You hit the nail on the head. We must have strong OOC wins as well as strong OOC scheduling. It’s the only way. Adding 3 more games against teams ranked 200-350 does nothing.

Strong OOC scheduling combined with some wins is the only remedy.

That being said, I am very happy about the new additions to the ASUN.

Let's not get ahead, it's not a done deal yet, anything can happen.
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RE: Should the A-Sun look to expand?
As an outsider, I’m bullish on the Atlantic Sun.

1) High profile NCAA wins and recognizable names.
2) Schools actually considering leaving their current conferences for this conference is a good sign for something (or perhaps a bad sign for the OVC and Southland).
11-19-2020 01:39 PM
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(11-19-2020 01:39 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  As an outsider, I’m bullish on the Atlantic Sun.

1) High profile NCAA wins and recognizable names.
2) Schools actually considering leaving their current conferences for this conference is a good sign for something (or perhaps a bad sign for the OVC and Southland).

That's good sentiment
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It’s been like a week, and covid, the invitation letters should have been received back in the mail by now. I want answers! I want new information! 05-mafia 03-lmfao 03-hissyfit 03-lmfao 03-banghead 03-lmfao 07-coffee3
11-21-2020 09:55 AM
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RE: Should the A-Sun look to expand?
(11-21-2020 09:55 AM)army56mike Wrote:  It’s been like a week, and covid, the invitation letters should have been received back in the mail by now. I want answers! I want new information! 05-mafia 03-lmfao 03-hissyfit 03-lmfao 03-banghead 03-lmfao 07-coffee3

https://aboutyourmag.info/2020/11/18/if-...-magazine/

Quote:If the Atlantic Sun Conference wants to talk to Jacksonville State about joining the league, then athletics director Greg Seitz is willing to listen.

But, that’s a long way from Jacksonville State deciding to abandon the Ohio Valley Conference for the ASUN.

Jeff Goodman, basketball analyst at The Stadium, posted on Twitter, “Can confirm that ASUN likely to add Eastern Kentucky, Central Arkansas and Jacksonville State for the 2021-22 season.”

Kendall Rogers posted on Twitter that ASUN presidents have voted to enter into a 60-day negotiating period with JSU, Eastern Kentucky and Central Arkansas.

Seitz said that JSU would listen to a pitch but is pleased with being members of the OVC.

May not be a done deal after all.
11-21-2020 10:11 AM
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RE: Should the A-Sun look to expand?
(11-21-2020 10:11 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 09:55 AM)army56mike Wrote:  It’s been like a week, and covid, the invitation letters should have been received back in the mail by now. I want answers! I want new information! 05-mafia 03-lmfao 03-hissyfit 03-lmfao 03-banghead 03-lmfao 07-coffee3

https://aboutyourmag.info/2020/11/18/if-...-magazine/

Quote:If the Atlantic Sun Conference wants to talk to Jacksonville State about joining the league, then athletics director Greg Seitz is willing to listen.

But, that’s a long way from Jacksonville State deciding to abandon the Ohio Valley Conference for the ASUN.

Jeff Goodman, basketball analyst at The Stadium, posted on Twitter, “Can confirm that ASUN likely to add Eastern Kentucky, Central Arkansas and Jacksonville State for the 2021-22 season.”

Kendall Rogers posted on Twitter that ASUN presidents have voted to enter into a 60-day negotiating period with JSU, Eastern Kentucky and Central Arkansas.

Seitz said that JSU would listen to a pitch but is pleased with being members of the OVC.

May not be a done deal after all.

What else would he say before its official?

The news was that the president's are in a 60 day negotiation... not the ADs
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RE: Should the A-Sun look to expand?
Being told the JSU will not be part of the ASUN expansion...

If so, I dont think the ASUN expands...
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RE: Should the A-Sun look to expand?
For EKU, if anything is going on with this then I would think it would be an agenda item for the Dec 10 BOR meeting.
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(11-21-2020 07:37 PM)EKUSteve Wrote:  For EKU, if anything is going on with this then I would think it would be an agenda item for the Dec 10 BOR meeting.

What are the chances EKU goes without JSU?

Probably slim to none...
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(11-21-2020 08:23 PM)lion1983 Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 07:37 PM)EKUSteve Wrote:  For EKU, if anything is going on with this then I would think it would be an agenda item for the Dec 10 BOR meeting.

What are the chances EKU goes without JSU?

Probably slim to none...

Who knows. Not sure what the pitch is or the administration's thinking. The administration is all new.
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And it all comes unravelled...
Easy come, easy go.
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RE: Should the A-Sun look to expand?
So... I guess we can go back to hoping for MEAC leftovers and D2 call ups.

I refer back to my original “more realistic” expansion list. However, even now, I think Howard would be a stretch. They probably would have better options.

ASUN . . . . . . . . . . . Big South (Football)
Howard . . . . . . . . . . Howard
Bellarmine . . . . . . . . Hampton
Lipscomb . . . . . . . . . N.C. A&T
Liberty . . . . . . . . . . . Robert Morris
Norfolk St. . . . . . . . . Norfolk St.
North Alabama . . . . . North Alabama
UA-Huntsville . . . . . . Monmouth
North Georgia . . . . . . Charleston So.
Kennesaw St. . . . . . . Kennesaw St
NCCU . . . . . . . . . . . . NCCU
West Florida . . . . . . . West Florida
North Florida . . . . . . . Campbell
Jacksonville . . . . . . . . Gardner Webb
Stetson
FGCU
Nova Southeastern

And of course there are the other board favorites- West Georgia, Valdosta St.,UNC Pembroke, and S.C. State.
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(11-22-2020 10:28 AM)army56mike Wrote:  So... I guess we can go back to hoping for MEAC leftovers and D2 call ups.

I refer back to my original “more realistic” expansion list. However, even now, I think Howard would be a stretch. They probably would have better options.

ASUN . . . . . . . . . . . Big South (Football)
Howard . . . . . . . . . . Howard
Bellarmine . . . . . . . . Hampton
Lipscomb . . . . . . . . . N.C. A&T
Liberty . . . . . . . . . . . Robert Morris
Norfolk St. . . . . . . . . Norfolk St.
North Alabama . . . . . North Alabama
UA-Huntsville . . . . . . Monmouth
North Georgia . . . . . . Charleston So.
Kennesaw St. . . . . . . Kennesaw St
NCCU . . . . . . . . . . . . NCCU
West Florida . . . . . . . West Florida
North Florida . . . . . . . Campbell
Jacksonville . . . . . . . . Gardner Webb
Stetson
FGCU
Nova Southeastern

And of course there are the other board favorites- West Georgia, Valdosta St.,UNC Pembroke, and S.C. State.

If what was announced dont happen, I would assume just invite West Florida, be at 10 and be done.
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(11-21-2020 06:42 PM)lion1983 Wrote:  Being told the JSU will not be part of the ASUN expansion...

If so, I dont think the ASUN expands...

I feel like what leaked was a trial balloon by Jacksonville State to get a feel for the reaction of their fans/supporters/etc. Not sure their response but if it were positive then they wouldn't be so again it publicly. Most often public comments are neutral like "We will neither confirm nor deny we are talking to other conferences. We are happy members of ABC conference and are fully committed to making it the best home for us and the rest of the conference. We will listen to offers if approached because we need to do what's best for the school but we are happy in our current situation."
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Rumor from a poster on our board is that discussions are ongoing.
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(11-22-2020 03:17 PM)EKUSteve Wrote:  Rumor from a poster on our board is that discussions are ongoing.

Hope so... I think it will be a good thing for all involved.
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(11-22-2020 02:55 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 06:42 PM)lion1983 Wrote:  Being told the JSU will not be part of the ASUN expansion...

If so, I dont think the ASUN expands...

I feel like what leaked was a trial balloon by Jacksonville State to get a feel for the reaction of their fans/supporters/etc. Not sure their response but if it were positive then they wouldn't be so again it publicly. Most often public comments are neutral like "We will neither confirm nor deny we are talking to other conferences. We are happy members of ABC conference and are fully committed to making it the best home for us and the rest of the conference. We will listen to offers if approached because we need to do what's best for the school but we are happy in our current situation."
95% of the JSU fans and alum I know (which is a good bit) wants it to happen.
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