(04-10-2015 10:07 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Answer my question first. You never do.

It should be easy to understand that once you assault an officer, after you cannot prove ownership of a motor vehicle. Then grab and wrestle for his Taser, per eye witness testimony, and then attempt escape a second time and never comply......well then you open yourself up to many different possible reactions from a person with a badge/ weapon and the authority to use it.

Only hit Scott 5 times, fired 8 rounds. Get your stuff straight.

Actually you are the one who hasn't answered my question.

How could you possibly know that he wasn't profiling the guy unless you could read his mind.

Fitbud=UCF08

(04-10-2015 10:36 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Fitbud=UCF08

I've come to this conclusion as well.

(04-10-2015 10:36 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Fitbud=UCF08

Nice deflection. Now can you answer my question?

Not until you answer mine! How's that?

(04-10-2015 11:09 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Not until you answer mine! How's that?

I asked you first.

Nee Ne'er, nee ne'er.

(04-10-2015 12:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Nee Ne'er, nee ne'er.

Typical.

Perhaps the State Statute by the SC Supreme Court will answer your childish responses FIT. Per state law since 2001, the law states that a police officer has the right to pull over any vehicle that has ONE brake light out!

(04-10-2015 09:26 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  You cannot fix stupid or legislate it out of existence. Charges were brought against the Officer too hastily. However, with the advent of the "video" that only presented the reality of the situation and end result some charge had to be made.

The officer did not intentionally profile Scott. He was just doing his job with the routine traffic stop and conducted himself in a professional courteous manner.

Flip side, did Scott provide the officer with any where near the same amount of respect?

As far as the Police being held at a "higher standard" blanket statement. Why? These people are just plain "Joes" with families and credit card debt, rent/mortgage and car payments. They are performing a JOB that has risk and suffer contempt from a good percentage of the population for a very small amount of pay.

The officer conducted himself much better than Scott. Furthermore, truth be told, the officer doesn't have the outstanding warrants or a previous history of breaking the law like Scott earned during his 50 years. Funny how you can "purchase a car" but not pay child support! Just observing his character, that's all! I am sure his parents were proud of him all these years!

Law Enforcement is authorized to use lethal force and have the ability to detail you under law. Are they regular people? Yes, who have elected to pursue an irregular job where the margin of error is slim. By definition they have a higher standard.

If they have a higher standard then you should recruit higher quality individuals in some cases.

I can say the same about teachers. You expect them to be of a "higher standard", however, most were poor students themselves.

Even more telling is that the random sample of credit information that I have been privy to in the past concerning "educators" they ALL have schitty credit!! So much for higher standards!

Family Of Walter Scott Tells Al Sharpton To “Keep Away” From Funeral, “We Don’t Want Another Ferguson”…



Good to see....

Quote:Walter Scott’s family have asked Al Sharpton not to attend the funeral, it is claimed.

The New York-based Reverend became a prominent voice in the wake of Michael Brown’s shooting at the hands of a white police officer in Ferguson last August.

But as the nation’s attention turns to South Carolina and footage showing Officer Michael Slager shooting dead father-of-four Walter Scott,
his parents and brothers have made plain that they do not want the same treatment.

According to the New York Daily News, the family told Rev Sharpton to ‘keep away’ from the relatives-only memorial service.

A source close to the Scotts told the paper: ‘We don’t want another Ferguson type of circus here.’

Though the family of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown welcomed Sharpton’s support, he was criticized by others for stirring rage as violent protests escalated in the Missouri city.

The Scott family’s lawyer, Chris Stewart, told the Daily News: ‘The Reverend Al has called and expressed his support and condolences. The family is very appreciative.’

Responding to the allegations that he has been barred from the service, Sharpton told the paper that he ‘would never come unless they asked’, adding that he is ‘willing to be helpful to the family but only when needed.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ntion.html

(04-08-2015 03:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 03:08 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Good now I have two "educators" to ask! You have been assaulted by a 50 year old child. Would you feel like your life were in jeopardy? Yes or No? I am trying to keep this simple.

Nope

Since when did getting your arse whipped become "fearing for your life"?

Since I became intelligent enough to understand that it doesn't take that much of a beating to kill somebody.

(04-10-2015 08:37 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  

(04-10-2015 08:14 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-10-2015 08:02 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  When the trial occurs (years or months from now), the former LEO will most likely get manslaughter. This was a situation where he made bad judgment after he made a traffic stop (I've been to North Charleston, it's a ghetto *** neighborhood. Very disrespectful individuals towards everyone), suspect is driving a car that isn't his, vehicle owner isn't in the car, Mercedes in ghetto neighborhood, doesn't posses registration or insurance, driver steps out of vehicle when not instructed to (EVERYONE knows you NEVER step out of a vehicle when stopped by the police), then the driver bolts and runs 600 feet until the taser is deployed and there is a scuffle on the ground for the taser. The taser is no longer in possession of the former LEO.

The next question is critical and unfortunately a mystery .......

What happened on the ground? Did the suspect gain control of the taser? Did suspect reach for something in his waistband? Was the officer hit in the head? Was there bruises on the suspects hand that articulate the suspect hit the former LEO head? Did officer have dirt/sand in his eyes (they were wrestling in area that did not have grass. North Charleston topsoil is very sandy)?

Former LEO then begins to upholsters his weapon approximately 10 feet away and engages on the target.

If the officer believes he saw something in the waistband is critical as is what happened on the ground.

At the end of the day, it's a tragic event. Two families lives have been ruined. I think a few things can come out from this that EVERYONE can agree .......

1. Body cameras (obviously if funds available should be used and placed on LEO).
2. Also it should be influenced for drivers to have body cameras themselves to protect from corrupt LEO. (body cameras are as cheap as $100.00). When I see EVERY teenager today (of ALL races) with a smart phone and new clothes on their back.
3. ALL citizens when renewing their license or obtaining a new license MUST pass a class on the procedures on a basic traffic stop. Stiff penalties must be imposed when procedures are not met (lost of license, $$$$ massive fines) etc ............. WHY HAS THIS NEVER BEEN THE NORM?

just to your self bolded text.....b/c it's just fk'n stupid and not cost effective

you want to live in utopia....that doesn't exist....yet

even the best of intentions can end with ill....

it's posts like yours that have made me cringe my entire life....from religion to gubberment.....you guys really don't understand reality....all you know is knee-jerk control mechanisms....

we are nothing more than dogs that talk....so get over your self pontification methods.....you will be happier moving forward if you actually believe your own spew....

So you want these endless controversy killings to continue? I recall driving to be a privilege and not a right!

Cost effective???? This would be a standardized test with 10-15 questions during initial testing of DL or 7 year renewal! The cost would be minimal if any!

This isn't knee jerk reaction. This is something that should have taken place 40 years ago!

1. not at all.....unnecessary violence is part of the animal kingdom....just b/c we communicate at the top of the chain doesn't change that....at times it is 'that' that creates the cause/effect

2. do you really believe that more control wouldn't cost more in having to hire to administer? By saying this, I imply the populous lack of ability to understand why our perceived 'carte blanche' attitude that printing money is okay

3. yes it is.....40 yrs ago it didn't matter....the internutz wasn't in the hands of the GP....

what is right is not always the right answer....it's why there are laws that continually change...however, it's laws that allow us to attempt to provide the ability to live in peace...having said that, it is impossible to govern all situations that can occur....so to your point #2, do you really think that all people 'would' follow (I understand 'should') this path???.....one doesn't 'need' a license to drive.....all one 'needs' is money to buy a vehicle or steal it.....while using this extreme as an example, it exemplifies how no system of control is idyllic

utopia......it's nothing more than a whim that whispers within the pie hole...people that believe in that premise are nothing more than blinded by a perception of faith that live in isolation of their 'blanky'

good luck with that....

(04-10-2015 03:19 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  If they have a higher standard then you should recruit higher quality individuals in some cases.

I can say the same about teachers. You expect them to be of a "higher standard", however, most were poor students themselves.

Even more telling is that the random sample of credit information that I have been privy to in the past concerning "educators" they ALL have schitty credit!! So much for higher standards!

Wow, nice one.

At least the family of Walter Scott has told Al Sharpton to stay away from the funeral. No race baiting wanted in North Charleston.

Rev. Sharpton Told To Stay Away From Funeral For Slain SC Man


snippet:

Quote:The New York Daily News reports the family of Walter Scott has expressed they do not want the reverend, who has attended the funerals of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in Staten Island, to attend the funeral.

The Tide Is Turning on this North Charleston thing now. There are two eye witnesses to the situation now, selective phone video, dash cam video, police reports, evidence of a physical altercation.

At best they can hope to charge the Officer with and have a chance in winning is: Man Slaughter!

When all is said and done, they may not be capable of proving that!

(04-11-2015 08:58 AM)VA49er Wrote:  At least the family of Walter Scott has told Al Sharpton to stay away from the funeral. No race baiting wanted in North Charleston.

Rev. Sharpton Told To Stay Away From Funeral For Slain SC Man


snippet:

Quote:The New York Daily News reports the family of Walter Scott has expressed they do not want the reverend, who has attended the funerals of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in Staten Island, to attend the funeral.

smart people that realize the residual consequence if he was to attend....sharpton is beyond a pos....

laws are in place to prosecute the accused and the family to receive monetary compensation.....doesn't change the impact on the family and doesn't change that the victim was a 'law breaking citizen'

ultimately, the intellect level of future hires in law enforcement can only go down based on the current media/public perception.....only a dipshite would 'want' to enter that workforce

the only residual positive I see regarding the sensationalist style of reporting is that training the piggies becomes better.....but then I realize that municipalities are as broke as the rest of us.....wishful thinking one then realizes....hence, it (this or any uproar) is moot in entirety....

at some point, one has to realize that some doggies will rip your head off, and some will just, "woof, woof" with a tail wag....

genetic engineering and genocide.....there's the future.....

Hitler had it right (with the exception of race being the factor).....he just didn't have the tools.....and it doesn't matter if you agree or not....this time we live in is a simple passage of progression to that stage

(04-11-2015 09:06 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  The Tide Is Turning on this North Charleston thing now. There are two eye witnesses to the situation now, selective phone video, dash cam video, police reports, evidence of a physical altercation.

At best they can hope to charge the Officer with and have a chance in winning is: Man Slaughter!

When all is said and done, they may not be capable of proving that!

Wait, are you excusing what this officer did? Regardless of the criminal charges able to be levied against him, this is horrific thing this man did. He killed a person that didn't need to be killed, shouldn't you be outraged?

Manslaughter is what this will end up being. That isn't excusing anything.