(04-30-2026 01:54 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:37 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 12:13 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 12:08 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:09 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What was it before the excursion?

A better question would be. What will the price of gas be after the excursion?

An even betterer question would be how long till the excursion ends? Another not quite as better but still good question would be how long after the excursion ends will it take gas to get back to whatever the new equilibrium will be?

like it always has in the past ... again, muh when becomes when we finally take over the islands en masse and tell 'em to fk off until they bow to the king...

I understand the when is drivin' the miss daisies bonkers, but the when happens when it happens ... no sooner, no later...

some of y'all act like this is a 2 hr. baseball game ... we haven't made it to the stretch, yet...

y'all ain' used to 'in it to win it, eh?!' ... oh, fk'n wellzy...

Okay Riddler. And when is your glorious Orange Boy going to actually be in it to win it and put troops on the ground on those islands since boom that just magically solves everything? If it was so easy why hasn't the genius just done it? Oh yeah, because it's not actually the magical fix you think it is and just leaves American troops as sitting ducks to get killed in high numbers.

again, I don't know when ... but when it happens, it becomes then o' zen o' yeast and least...

capping their wells are a problem ... apparently, they've begun to burn off right now due to lack of storage ... how long can they maintain any semblance of an liquid economy with Bessent continually freezing assets and the blockade in place?!? ... weeks - couple of months ... your guess is as good as mine...

what I do know is he could wipe out the islands in a matter of hours ... he'll only pull that trigger if the waiting game fails ... I'm betting on the waiting game until option #4 must become reality...

@patientFeller

(04-30-2026 01:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:09 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  $3.59 locally.

What was it before the excursion?

Mine was $2.94, IIRC.

I thought trump said gas was $2?

I can only assume you all live in the mid-south and/or close to Oklahoma.

It actually got down to $1.70 here, in November of his last year in office, the first time around. Before Biden blew it up to $5.

Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

(04-30-2026 02:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:54 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:37 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 12:13 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 12:08 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  A better question would be. What will the price of gas be after the excursion?

An even betterer question would be how long till the excursion ends? Another not quite as better but still good question would be how long after the excursion ends will it take gas to get back to whatever the new equilibrium will be?

like it always has in the past ... again, muh when becomes when we finally take over the islands en masse and tell 'em to fk off until they bow to the king...

I understand the when is drivin' the miss daisies bonkers, but the when happens when it happens ... no sooner, no later...

some of y'all act like this is a 2 hr. baseball game ... we haven't made it to the stretch, yet...

y'all ain' used to 'in it to win it, eh?!' ... oh, fk'n wellzy...

Okay Riddler. And when is your glorious Orange Boy going to actually be in it to win it and put troops on the ground on those islands since boom that just magically solves everything? If it was so easy why hasn't the genius just done it? Oh yeah, because it's not actually the magical fix you think it is and just leaves American troops as sitting ducks to get killed in high numbers.

again, I don't know when ... but when it happens, it becomes then o' zen o' yeast and least...

capping their wells are a problem ... apparently, they've begun to burn off right now due to lack of storage ... how long can they maintain any semblance of an liquid economy with Bessent continually freezing assets and the blockade in place?!? ... weeks - couple of months ... your guess is as good as mine...

what I do know is he could wipe out the islands in a matter of hours ... he'll only pull that trigger if the waiting game fails ... I'm betting on the waiting game until option #4 must become reality...

@patientFeller

I'm betting on them having an exponentially higher economic pain tolerance than you think they do. I also think you way overestimate the resilience of the world economy to much more of this. Now maybe you just don't care if the entire world economy collapses, maybe you are so removed from it that you think you wouldn't be impacted so your tolerance for others pain is exponentially high.

(04-30-2026 02:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:54 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:37 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 12:13 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  An even betterer question would be how long till the excursion ends? Another not quite as better but still good question would be how long after the excursion ends will it take gas to get back to whatever the new equilibrium will be?

like it always has in the past ... again, muh when becomes when we finally take over the islands en masse and tell 'em to fk off until they bow to the king...

I understand the when is drivin' the miss daisies bonkers, but the when happens when it happens ... no sooner, no later...

some of y'all act like this is a 2 hr. baseball game ... we haven't made it to the stretch, yet...

y'all ain' used to 'in it to win it, eh?!' ... oh, fk'n wellzy...

Okay Riddler. And when is your glorious Orange Boy going to actually be in it to win it and put troops on the ground on those islands since boom that just magically solves everything? If it was so easy why hasn't the genius just done it? Oh yeah, because it's not actually the magical fix you think it is and just leaves American troops as sitting ducks to get killed in high numbers.

again, I don't know when ... but when it happens, it becomes then o' zen o' yeast and least...

capping their wells are a problem ... apparently, they've begun to burn off right now due to lack of storage ... how long can they maintain any semblance of an liquid economy with Bessent continually freezing assets and the blockade in place?!? ... weeks - couple of months ... your guess is as good as mine...

what I do know is he could wipe out the islands in a matter of hours ... he'll only pull that trigger if the waiting game fails ... I'm betting on the waiting game until option #4 must become reality...

@patientFeller

I'm betting on them having an exponentially higher economic pain tolerance than you think they do. I also think you way overestimate the resilience of the world economy to much more of this. Now maybe you just don't care if the entire world economy collapses, maybe you are so removed from it that you think you wouldn't be impacted so your tolerance for others pain is exponentially high.

okay ... fair enough...

we do not agree ... I'm good with that ... the arguments have been made ... time will yield the end result...

I hate repeating myself...

(04-30-2026 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:09 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What was it before the excursion?

Mine was $2.94, IIRC.

I thought trump said gas was $2?

I can only assume you all live in the mid-south and/or close to Oklahoma.

It actually got down to $1.70 here, in November of his last year in office, the first time around. Before Biden blew it up to $5.

Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

(04-30-2026 02:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Mine was $2.94, IIRC.

I thought trump said gas was $2?

I can only assume you all live in the mid-south and/or close to Oklahoma.

It actually got down to $1.70 here, in November of his last year in office, the first time around. Before Biden blew it up to $5.

Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

You don't have to just disagree. You can actually cite some documented reasons as to why you blame Biden for the high cost.

Meanwhile, I have documented countless times how a good deal of that was caused by trump, coupled with things neither US president really could control.

1. OPEC 2020 deal signed by trump, the biggest driver of the high prices.
2. Global inflation due to Covid shutdowns...and not just here in the US.
3. Russia invading Ukraine.

You can't just look at it from terms of who is in office when the price peaks. You have to look at the factors that brought it about. And with O&G, those things don't always happen as quickly as this increase has...which was caused almost exclusively by trump attacking Iran.

(04-30-2026 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought trump said gas was $2?

I can only assume you all live in the mid-south and/or close to Oklahoma.

It actually got down to $1.70 here, in November of his last year in office, the first time around. Before Biden blew it up to $5.

Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

You don't have to just disagree. You can actually cite some documented reasons as to why you blame Biden for the high cost.

Meanwhile, I have documented countless times how a good deal of that was caused by trump, coupled with things neither US president really could control.

1. OPEC 2020 deal signed by trump, the biggest driver of the high prices.
2. Global inflation due to Covid shutdowns...and not just here in the US.
3. Russia invading Ukraine.

You can't just look at it from terms of who is in office when the price peaks. You have to look at the factors that brought it about. And with O&G, those things don't always happen as quickly as this increase has...which was caused almost exclusively by trump attacking Iran.

Can you tell us why Trump made that deal and be honest about it?

(04-30-2026 03:34 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  It actually got down to $1.70 here, in November of his last year in office, the first time around. Before Biden blew it up to $5.

Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

You don't have to just disagree. You can actually cite some documented reasons as to why you blame Biden for the high cost.

Meanwhile, I have documented countless times how a good deal of that was caused by trump, coupled with things neither US president really could control.

1. OPEC 2020 deal signed by trump, the biggest driver of the high prices.
2. Global inflation due to Covid shutdowns...and not just here in the US.
3. Russia invading Ukraine.

You can't just look at it from terms of who is in office when the price peaks. You have to look at the factors that brought it about. And with O&G, those things don't always happen as quickly as this increase has...which was caused almost exclusively by trump attacking Iran.

Can you tell us why Trump made that deal and be honest about it?

I honestly don't really know what he was thinking. Likely because he thought oil demand would be low during the pandemic...which it was...but he was saying publicly that he thought it would be over by Easter. So if he truly thought it would be over by Easter, why did he sign a 2-year deal?

Perhaps he thought if they cut production that the US oil industry would produce and sell more. But the problem with that was his actions a couple years prior to Covid that caused lots of bankruptcies in US oil companies (no, not the behemoth ones, the small ones). When he first came into office, he begged OPEC to increase production because he wanted to make good on his belief that gas prices should be well under $2 per gallon. But the US Oil industry doesn't make much when gas is so cheap. So OPEC flooded the marked and rig count fell, employment in the oil fields plummeted, and investment went away and could not really recover in time to produce more to make up for the OPEC cuts when COVID went away and things opened back up. Again, it normally takes years for oil to go from discovery to refineries.

(04-30-2026 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought trump said gas was $2?

I can only assume you all live in the mid-south and/or close to Oklahoma.

It actually got down to $1.70 here, in November of his last year in office, the first time around. Before Biden blew it up to $5.

Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

You don't have to just disagree. You can actually cite some documented reasons as to why you blame Biden for the high cost.

Meanwhile, I have documented countless times how a good deal of that was caused by trump, coupled with things neither US president really could control.

1. OPEC 2020 deal signed by trump, the biggest driver of the high prices.
2. Global inflation due to Covid shutdowns...and not just here in the US.
3. Russia invading Ukraine.

You can't just look at it from terms of who is in office when the price peaks. You have to look at the factors that brought it about. And with O&G, those things don't always happen as quickly as this increase has...which was caused almost exclusively by trump attacking Iran.

Pretty simple. Inflation Reduction Act, and almost every policy he backed during his 4 years.

(04-30-2026 03:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 03:34 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

You don't have to just disagree. You can actually cite some documented reasons as to why you blame Biden for the high cost.

Meanwhile, I have documented countless times how a good deal of that was caused by trump, coupled with things neither US president really could control.

1. OPEC 2020 deal signed by trump, the biggest driver of the high prices.
2. Global inflation due to Covid shutdowns...and not just here in the US.
3. Russia invading Ukraine.

You can't just look at it from terms of who is in office when the price peaks. You have to look at the factors that brought it about. And with O&G, those things don't always happen as quickly as this increase has...which was caused almost exclusively by trump attacking Iran.

Can you tell us why Trump made that deal and be honest about it?

I honestly don't really know what he was thinking. Likely because he thought oil demand would be low during the pandemic...which it was...but he was saying publicly that he thought it would be over by Easter. So if he truly thought it would be over by Easter, why did he sign a 2-year deal?

Perhaps he thought if they cut production that the US oil industry would produce and sell more. But the problem with that was his actions a couple years prior to Covid that caused lots of bankruptcies in US oil companies (no, not the behemoth ones, the small ones). When he first came into office, he begged OPEC to increase production because he wanted to make good on his belief that gas prices should be well under $2 per gallon. But the US Oil industry doesn't make much when gas is so cheap. So OPEC flooded the marked and rig count fell, employment in the oil fields plummeted, and investment went away and could not really recover in time to produce more to make up for the OPEC cuts when COVID went away and things opened back up. Again, it normally takes years for oil to go from discovery to refineries.

Did you forget Russia's part in this. Also it looks like your time line is a little mixed up.

(04-30-2026 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought trump said gas was $2?

I can only assume you all live in the mid-south and/or close to Oklahoma.

It actually got down to $1.70 here, in November of his last year in office, the first time around. Before Biden blew it up to $5.

Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

You don't have to just disagree. You can actually cite some documented reasons as to why you blame Biden for the high cost.

Meanwhile, I have documented countless times how a good deal of that was caused by trump, coupled with things neither US president really could control.

1. OPEC 2020 deal signed by trump, the biggest driver of the high prices.
2. Global inflation due to Covid shutdowns...and not just here in the US.
3. Russia invading Ukraine.

You can't just look at it from terms of who is in office when the price peaks. You have to look at the factors that brought it about. And with O&G, those things don't always happen as quickly as this increase has...which was caused almost exclusively by trump attacking Iran.

Boy you just don't understand.

Trump's deal with OPEC ended in 2022. Biden didn't or couldn't renegotiate it. He even went to the Saudis and they laughed at him because of his incompetence.

But keep screaming Trump like the inbred mouth breather you are cat boy.

(04-30-2026 04:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  It actually got down to $1.70 here, in November of his last year in office, the first time around. Before Biden blew it up to $5.

Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

You don't have to just disagree. You can actually cite some documented reasons as to why you blame Biden for the high cost.

Meanwhile, I have documented countless times how a good deal of that was caused by trump, coupled with things neither US president really could control.

1. OPEC 2020 deal signed by trump, the biggest driver of the high prices.
2. Global inflation due to Covid shutdowns...and not just here in the US.
3. Russia invading Ukraine.

You can't just look at it from terms of who is in office when the price peaks. You have to look at the factors that brought it about. And with O&G, those things don't always happen as quickly as this increase has...which was caused almost exclusively by trump attacking Iran.

Pretty simple. Inflation Reduction Act, and almost every policy he backed during his 4 years.

Well, yeah it's pretty simple to just say the IRA, but some specifics would be nice. Where specifically did the IRA cause gas prices to spike to over $5 a gallon? There would have to be some massive things in there to cause that much of a jump.

And name some of the other policy changes please.

Still don't care if the end result is elimination of Iranian threat.

If Trump fails, I will not be happy about all of this, if he wins, this is the cost of doing that business.

(05-01-2026 08:17 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Still don't care if the end result is elimination of Iranian threat.

If Trump fails, I will not be happy about all of this, if he wins, this is the cost of doing that business.

What do you consider failure?

(04-30-2026 05:09 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 03:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 03:34 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

You don't have to just disagree. You can actually cite some documented reasons as to why you blame Biden for the high cost.

Meanwhile, I have documented countless times how a good deal of that was caused by trump, coupled with things neither US president really could control.

1. OPEC 2020 deal signed by trump, the biggest driver of the high prices.
2. Global inflation due to Covid shutdowns...and not just here in the US.
3. Russia invading Ukraine.

You can't just look at it from terms of who is in office when the price peaks. You have to look at the factors that brought it about. And with O&G, those things don't always happen as quickly as this increase has...which was caused almost exclusively by trump attacking Iran.

Can you tell us why Trump made that deal and be honest about it?

I honestly don't really know what he was thinking. Likely because he thought oil demand would be low during the pandemic...which it was...but he was saying publicly that he thought it would be over by Easter. So if he truly thought it would be over by Easter, why did he sign a 2-year deal?

Perhaps he thought if they cut production that the US oil industry would produce and sell more. But the problem with that was his actions a couple years prior to Covid that caused lots of bankruptcies in US oil companies (no, not the behemoth ones, the small ones). When he first came into office, he begged OPEC to increase production because he wanted to make good on his belief that gas prices should be well under $2 per gallon. But the US Oil industry doesn't make much when gas is so cheap. So OPEC flooded the marked and rig count fell, employment in the oil fields plummeted, and investment went away and could not really recover in time to produce more to make up for the OPEC cuts when COVID went away and things opened back up. Again, it normally takes years for oil to go from discovery to refineries.

Did you forget Russia's part in this. Also it looks like your time line is a little mixed up.

I've mentioned Russia many times before in talking about their Ukraine invasion leading to elevated gas prices, but you only asked me about the OPEC 2020 deal and why trump signed it. I don't recall Russia playing much of a roll in this other than them being a member of OPEC. But this deal was a win for OPEC. The completely bamboozled trump here...so I'm sure Russia and the other OPEC leaders laughed vociferously when trump actually agreed to this horrific deal.

And you're going to have to be a tad more specific on what you think is mixed up with the timeline. Keeping in mind that again, changes in the O&G industry often take over a year to materialize into changing the price of gas.

(05-01-2026 06:58 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  It actually got down to $1.70 here, in November of his last year in office, the first time around. Before Biden blew it up to $5.

Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

You don't have to just disagree. You can actually cite some documented reasons as to why you blame Biden for the high cost.

Meanwhile, I have documented countless times how a good deal of that was caused by trump, coupled with things neither US president really could control.

1. OPEC 2020 deal signed by trump, the biggest driver of the high prices.
2. Global inflation due to Covid shutdowns...and not just here in the US.
3. Russia invading Ukraine.

You can't just look at it from terms of who is in office when the price peaks. You have to look at the factors that brought it about. And with O&G, those things don't always happen as quickly as this increase has...which was caused almost exclusively by trump attacking Iran.

Boy you just don't understand.

Trump's deal with OPEC ended in 2022. Biden didn't or couldn't renegotiate it. He even went to the Saudis and they laughed at him because of his incompetence.

But keep screaming Trump like the inbred mouth breather you are cat boy.

Fuckstick, how many times do I have to tell you that yes, Biden failed in getting OPEC to cancel the horrible deal that trump signed? None of that changes the FACT that trump signed the deal, and it ****** us.

So sure, you and I can both blame Biden for not being able to get OPEC to cancel the deal. So how does any of that absolve trump from signing the idiotic deal to begin with? A deal, again, that was the driving force behind our gas hitting $5 in 2022 at the end of the 2-year deal.

Hint, it doesn't.

Damn, you're ignorant.

And clearly, you even know you've lost this argument...again...by stooping to more lame and ignorant insults.

(05-01-2026 06:58 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 01:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  It actually got down to $1.70 here, in November of his last year in office, the first time around. Before Biden blew it up to $5.

Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

You don't have to just disagree. You can actually cite some documented reasons as to why you blame Biden for the high cost.

Meanwhile, I have documented countless times how a good deal of that was caused by trump, coupled with things neither US president really could control.

1. OPEC 2020 deal signed by trump, the biggest driver of the high prices.
2. Global inflation due to Covid shutdowns...and not just here in the US.
3. Russia invading Ukraine.

You can't just look at it from terms of who is in office when the price peaks. You have to look at the factors that brought it about. And with O&G, those things don't always happen as quickly as this increase has...which was caused almost exclusively by trump attacking Iran.

Boy you just don't understand.

Trump's deal with OPEC ended in 2022. Biden didn't or couldn't renegotiate it. He even went to the Saudis and they laughed at him because of his incompetence.

But keep screaming Trump like the inbred mouth breather you are cat boy.

That deal reduced output to 6 million b/d from January 2021-April 2022 when it ended. You know what the actual decrease was? You guessed it. Nothing. This information is pretty easy to find. OPEC was producing then what they have been the 4 years aftewards.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/opec_crud...production

(05-01-2026 08:17 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Still don't care if the end result is elimination of Iranian threat.

If Trump fails, I will not be happy about all of this, if he wins, this is the cost of doing that business.

Short of nuking their whole country and completely taking it over, when could you ever say with any degree of certainty that Iran would NEVER be a threat ever again? You know damned well that as long as they exist, Bibi (and therefore trump and his minions) will rant until his last dying breath that they are close to a bomb. He's been doing it for decades.

(05-01-2026 08:28 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(05-01-2026 06:58 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-30-2026 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, Biden has next to nothing to do with that...but...you do you.

I disagree. But either way, it happened on Biden's watch. If it happened on Trump's watch, well, we all know what you would say then...

You don't have to just disagree. You can actually cite some documented reasons as to why you blame Biden for the high cost.

Meanwhile, I have documented countless times how a good deal of that was caused by trump, coupled with things neither US president really could control.

1. OPEC 2020 deal signed by trump, the biggest driver of the high prices.
2. Global inflation due to Covid shutdowns...and not just here in the US.
3. Russia invading Ukraine.

You can't just look at it from terms of who is in office when the price peaks. You have to look at the factors that brought it about. And with O&G, those things don't always happen as quickly as this increase has...which was caused almost exclusively by trump attacking Iran.

Boy you just don't understand.

Trump's deal with OPEC ended in 2022. Biden didn't or couldn't renegotiate it. He even went to the Saudis and they laughed at him because of his incompetence.

But keep screaming Trump like the inbred mouth breather you are cat boy.

That deal reduced output to 6 million b/d from January 2021-April 2022 when it ended. You know what the actual decrease was? You guessed it. Nothing. This information is pretty easy to find. OPEC was producing then what they have been the 4 years aftewards.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/opec_crud...production

Sorry, no.


https://peakoilbarrel.com/opec-monthly-o...ober-2025/

Anyway. Up another 9 cents today to $4.392
https://gasprices.aaa.com/