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Charlie Kirk was not the usual conservative activist in that he actually urged and wanted to sit down with those who disagreed with him and have a discussion. He was not rude nor dismissive of them. He wanted dialogue and a chance to show them how and why they were incorrect.

Just to sit down and talk.

He was murdered by somebody who was so insecure about their beliefs that this was the only solution they could think of. Somebody whose mind was so scrambled that he believed the rhetoric pushed by lefties that those on the right who support Trump are supporters of Hitler. In their minds, those who support Hitler deserve to be killed. That's how easy it is for you to rationalize murdering your political opponents.

I think Charlie's legacy will live on and today's events may have created another 10 Charlie Kirks. Nobody will do it as effortlessly and easily as him, but there will be others who continue his work.

R.I.P. Charlie

You were a force and influenced far more than perhaps you realized.

(09-10-2025 06:43 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Scott Jennings seemingly has come from nowhere to become a virtual national treasure. Dude is always on point.

(09-10-2025 06:46 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Scott Jennings seemingly has come from nowhere to become a virtual national treasure. Dude is always on point.

Proof of how desperate CNN is.

(09-10-2025 06:45 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Charlie Kirk was not the usual conservative activist in that he actually urged and wanted to sit down with those who disagreed with him and have a discussion. He was not rude nor dismissive of them. He wanted dialogue and a chance to show them how and why they were incorrect.

Just to sit down and talk.

He was murdered by somebody who was so insecure about their beliefs that this was the only solution they could think of. Somebody whose mind was so scrambled that he believed the rhetoric pushed by lefties that those on the right who support Trump are supporters of Hitler. In their minds, those who support Hitler deserve to be killed. That's how easy it is for you to rationalize murdering your political opponents.

I think Charlie's legacy will live on and today's events may have created another 10 Charlie Kirks. Nobody will do it as effortlessly and easily as him, but there will be others who continue his work.

R.I.P. Charlie

You were a force and influenced far more than perhaps you realized.

And yet, some of the leftists who posted in this thread are justifying and even celebrating it. Because they're political cowards.

(09-10-2025 05:39 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:35 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:30 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  This is a man that argued that the people being killed from gun violence is a necessary cost.

This is the only developed country that has such a sad amount of shootings because whenever these shootings happen people like Kirk always rush to say thoughts and prayers but also that the deaths are worth not changing our gun laws. If it wasn't for people like Kirk he might still be alive today and his kids might still have a dad.

Utah passed a law to allow open carry on college campuses less than a month ago. Would it have been so easy for this shooter to kill Kirk if he couldn't be openly carrying a gun on UV's campus today? Will Utah reconsider its new law that already helped one murderer or will Utah's lawmakers just say thoughts and prayers and move on?

This is also a man that was not sympathetic at all about the shootings of Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman in July. When that shooting happened he rushed to blame Tim Walz.

I expect this post to be met with people reporting me, trying to ban me and maybe even hoping to censor the words I typed along with claims of me being hateful, evil, and whatever else, but think back to when Paul Pelosi was attacked in his own home. Kirk decided to push the right wing conspiracy that Pelosi and the random assailant man were gay lovers and that someone should pay the bail of the criminal. So as long as someone is not accusing Kirk of actually being gay lovers with his murderer then they are are higher moral grounds than the grounds of which Kirk lived his life.

Are you actually justifying him being killed?

Again, I disagreed with Kirk on most things, but I’m not gonna justify his death. You make change by convincing people why you think they’re wrong, not violence.

Justifying? No.

Pointing out that he spent his life working to make sure murders like this kept happening? Yes.



And I don't care for any moral outrage because again remember that as long as someone is not accusing Kirk of actually being gay lovers with his murderer then they are are higher moral grounds than the grounds of which he lived his life.

What a stupid person you are. You know nothing about how he lived his personal life. I know I know, you watched some left wing drivel on him and swallowed that whole load without even gagging a little. Shut up, sit down or go away.

(09-10-2025 06:46 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

Trump is supposed to be there tomorrow night for the 9/11 game

(09-10-2025 05:42 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:40 PM)--- Wrote:  He was ok with kids dying for 2nd amendment rights, i'm ok with him dying for 2nd amendment rights.

You know what? Screw you. I'm glad I had GTS take away your mod powers. (Yeah, that's right. It was me, son.)

Who is it??

(09-10-2025 06:56 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:42 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:40 PM)--- Wrote:  He was ok with kids dying for 2nd amendment rights, i'm ok with him dying for 2nd amendment rights.

You know what? Screw you. I'm glad I had GTS take away your mod powers. (Yeah, that's right. It was me, son.)

Who is it??

It's Kruciff.

(09-10-2025 06:15 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:45 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Get back to us the next time some crazed right wing radical shoots and kills a prominent young democrat. GTFO with that crap. Typical fence sitting CYA "moderate".

Get ******. Someone lost their life today, 2 kids lost a dad, and a wife lost the love of her life. Both parties are guilty of this rhetoric. One is more successful. You can bury your head. I've enjoyed Charlie Kirk's views and I follow him on X, even when I don't agree with him.

It’s a horrible day, mlb. You’re right.

However, the reason you’re getting so much pushback isn’t because of your distain for Trump. It’s because conservatives are sick and tired of the lefts violence toward those who don’t agree with their nonsense.
Tragedies like today then spur some on the left to say “both sides need to tone down the violence and the rhetoric ” yet these violent acts seem to always be perpetrated by left wing lunatics.

Everybody sees that yet these violent acts and the left fails to acknowledge them.
That’s what creates the massive divide on the subject.

Both sides argue but the right seems to just react to the left, the left doesn’t like the reaction, then they resort to violence.

There are too many examples to count.

One of these days, which may be really soon, the left is going to trigger a real fight that they have no chance of winning.

And I mean no chance at all.

(09-10-2025 05:52 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:39 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:32 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:30 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:10 PM)hburg Wrote:  

I don't see how its not a professional hit. And its designed to be a message to everyone.

It doesn't take a professional assassin to be able to bring a gun onto a campus where lawmakers have decided to allow open carrying of guns.

If it was up to me, every single place in America would be an open carry space.

Open carry laws do not kill people, murders and assassins do and they by definition do not give a rats ass about laws. Many of the deadliest places in America have the strictest gun laws in the country, yet are filled every week with gun violence.

You have to be a special kind of ignorant not to understand this simple truth.

Then if it was up to you a lot more people would be gunned down just like this in this open carry space.

The purpose of guns is to kill things. Having as many guns in as many hand means more people that can gun someone down like this. Letting those people straight up open carry wherever they want means the access to gun down whoever.


If you think we can't stop criminals from getting something that is illegal than what's the point of laws at all? If criminals wanting to break a law is argument to not have a specific law then why is any other law different? A functioning country creates laws and then those laws are enforced by the police who in a stable country have a monopoly on the use of force.


The US has by far the most shootings of any developed country because of the easy access to guns. To illustrate how easy it is to access guns in this country Mexican cartels buy American guns and smuggle them south into Mexico. Literally some of the most violence criminals in the world find it easier to obtain guns here than jump through the laws at home in a country that is supposedly less stable and functioning than this one.

Another fuqn leftist moron shows his ignorance about gun control, gun laws and why they don't work, ever. There are already laws on the books that haven't stopped squat, new ones won't help. Idiots, just plain dumb.

Since I saw I am going to be banned for saying the wrong words in here I was curious and I scrolled back to June. I looked at this thread from when Melissa Hortman was assassinated in a shooting in her home. It seems like a more politics talk was allow then for some reason. I wonder why. Most of the thread was allowed to be politics there.

(06-14-2025 08:29 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  A Trump supporter shooting two Democrats who just voted to revoke state benefits for illegal aliens? The same suspect who was found to have been carrying NO KINGS flyers in his car and was an appointee of two separate Democrat governors of the Land of 10,000 Lakes?

lolnope

(06-15-2025 06:05 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Tim Walz could take a gun, if he could load it, shoot half the Minnesota State legislature and Leftist would claim Walz was a Trump supporter.

Of course it’s sickening that Democrats look to assign political blame instead of condemning whoever is responsible. It’s happened time and time again.

If the shooter is white he’s a racist, if he’s black he’s lashing out at white oppression.
If a shooter kills an insurance CEO, he’s a hero.
If a shooter is transgender, we don’t talk about it and hide what they believe.

Rahm Emanuel said the quiet part out loud.
“Never let a crisis go to waste”

Leftists live by that mantra. Regardless who is responsible. They’ll figure out a way to blame it on political enemies. The weak minded will take to the streets to protest and tear up their own neighborhoods while the Leftist Legacy Lemmings in media will amplify the madness.

A year ago I would have laughed at 2nd Civil War talk. After the last few months of Leftist violence, if we continue on this path it seems inevitable.

(06-14-2025 08:59 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Well that's your 21st century democratic party.

Do what you're told... or we'll kill ya.

(06-15-2025 08:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-15-2025 01:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good grief! Who cares? He killed 2 people. It doesn't matter if he's a 3-legged blind transgender giraffe.

Whole thread is trying to claim he is a democrat, suddenly when it comes out that he is an anti LGBT, anti abortion, Trump supporter you are all “who cares”.

Oh well. Maybe we'll learn to pass laws to stop these threads from happening so frequently. If not it would be interesting for those who are not banned to compare why different ones are treated differently.

I went back and looked for that post Tom made at 1:56 pm. Yes, he did delete it but some had already replied to him.

JR don't play dude.

(09-10-2025 06:59 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  Since I saw I am going to be banned for saying the wrong words in here I was curious and I scrolled back to June. I looked at this thread from when Melissa Hortman was assassinated in a shooting in her home. It seems like a more politics talk was allow then for some reason. I wonder why. Most of the thread was allowed to be politics there.

(06-14-2025 08:29 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  A Trump supporter shooting two Democrats who just voted to revoke state benefits for illegal aliens? The same suspect who was found to have been carrying NO KINGS flyers in his car and was an appointee of two separate Democrat governors of the Land of 10,000 Lakes?

lolnope

(06-15-2025 06:05 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Tim Walz could take a gun, if he could load it, shoot half the Minnesota State legislature and Leftist would claim Walz was a Trump supporter.

Of course it’s sickening that Democrats look to assign political blame instead of condemning whoever is responsible. It’s happened time and time again.

If the shooter is white he’s a racist, if he’s black he’s lashing out at white oppression.
If a shooter kills an insurance CEO, he’s a hero.
If a shooter is transgender, we don’t talk about it and hide what they believe.

Rahm Emanuel said the quiet part out loud.
“Never let a crisis go to waste”

Leftists live by that mantra. Regardless who is responsible. They’ll figure out a way to blame it on political enemies. The weak minded will take to the streets to protest and tear up their own neighborhoods while the Leftist Legacy Lemmings in media will amplify the madness.

A year ago I would have laughed at 2nd Civil War talk. After the last few months of Leftist violence, if we continue on this path it seems inevitable.

(06-14-2025 08:59 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Well that's your 21st century democratic party.

Do what you're told... or we'll kill ya.

(06-15-2025 08:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-15-2025 01:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good grief! Who cares? He killed 2 people. It doesn't matter if he's a 3-legged blind transgender giraffe.

Whole thread is trying to claim he is a democrat, suddenly when it comes out that he is an anti LGBT, anti abortion, Trump supporter you are all “who cares”.

Oh well. Maybe we'll learn to pass laws to stop these threads from happening so frequently. If not it would be interesting for those who are not banned to compare why different ones are treated differently.

You already had several warnings yet you continue to derail the thread. I expect the ban hammer to come down on you. (And yes, what I said about the shooter in Minnesota was right. Not my fault you don't like it.)

(09-10-2025 06:15 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:45 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Get back to us the next time some crazed right wing radical shoots and kills a prominent young democrat. GTFO with that crap. Typical fence sitting CYA "moderate".

Get ******. Someone lost their life today, 2 kids lost a dad, and a wife lost the love of her life. Both parties are guilty of this rhetoric. One is more successful. You can bury your head. I've enjoyed Charlie Kirk's views and I follow him on X, even when I don't agree with him.

Pick a side.

(09-10-2025 06:59 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  Since I saw I am going to be banned for saying the wrong words in here I was curious and I scrolled back to June. I looked at this thread from when Melissa Hortman was assassinated in a shooting in her home. It seems like a more politics talk was allow then for some reason. I wonder why. Most of the thread was allowed to be politics there.

(06-14-2025 08:29 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  A Trump supporter shooting two Democrats who just voted to revoke state benefits for illegal aliens? The same suspect who was found to have been carrying NO KINGS flyers in his car and was an appointee of two separate Democrat governors of the Land of 10,000 Lakes?

lolnope

(06-15-2025 06:05 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Tim Walz could take a gun, if he could load it, shoot half the Minnesota State legislature and Leftist would claim Walz was a Trump supporter.

Of course it’s sickening that Democrats look to assign political blame instead of condemning whoever is responsible. It’s happened time and time again.

If the shooter is white he’s a racist, if he’s black he’s lashing out at white oppression.
If a shooter kills an insurance CEO, he’s a hero.
If a shooter is transgender, we don’t talk about it and hide what they believe.

Rahm Emanuel said the quiet part out loud.
“Never let a crisis go to waste”

Leftists live by that mantra. Regardless who is responsible. They’ll figure out a way to blame it on political enemies. The weak minded will take to the streets to protest and tear up their own neighborhoods while the Leftist Legacy Lemmings in media will amplify the madness.

A year ago I would have laughed at 2nd Civil War talk. After the last few months of Leftist violence, if we continue on this path it seems inevitable.

(06-14-2025 08:59 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Well that's your 21st century democratic party.

Do what you're told... or we'll kill ya.

(06-15-2025 08:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-15-2025 01:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good grief! Who cares? He killed 2 people. It doesn't matter if he's a 3-legged blind transgender giraffe.

Whole thread is trying to claim he is a democrat, suddenly when it comes out that he is an anti LGBT, anti abortion, Trump supporter you are all “who cares”.

Oh well. Maybe we'll learn to pass laws to stop these threads from happening so frequently. If not it would be interesting for those who are not banned to compare why different ones are treated differently.

Offer a solution or STFU

(09-10-2025 07:04 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:59 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  Since I saw I am going to be banned for saying the wrong words in here I was curious and I scrolled back to June. I looked at this thread from when Melissa Hortman was assassinated in a shooting in her home. It seems like a more politics talk was allow then for some reason. I wonder why. Most of the thread was allowed to be politics there.

(06-14-2025 08:29 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  A Trump supporter shooting two Democrats who just voted to revoke state benefits for illegal aliens? The same suspect who was found to have been carrying NO KINGS flyers in his car and was an appointee of two separate Democrat governors of the Land of 10,000 Lakes?

lolnope

(06-15-2025 06:05 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Tim Walz could take a gun, if he could load it, shoot half the Minnesota State legislature and Leftist would claim Walz was a Trump supporter.

Of course it’s sickening that Democrats look to assign political blame instead of condemning whoever is responsible. It’s happened time and time again.

If the shooter is white he’s a racist, if he’s black he’s lashing out at white oppression.
If a shooter kills an insurance CEO, he’s a hero.
If a shooter is transgender, we don’t talk about it and hide what they believe.

Rahm Emanuel said the quiet part out loud.
“Never let a crisis go to waste”

Leftists live by that mantra. Regardless who is responsible. They’ll figure out a way to blame it on political enemies. The weak minded will take to the streets to protest and tear up their own neighborhoods while the Leftist Legacy Lemmings in media will amplify the madness.

A year ago I would have laughed at 2nd Civil War talk. After the last few months of Leftist violence, if we continue on this path it seems inevitable.

(06-14-2025 08:59 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Well that's your 21st century democratic party.

Do what you're told... or we'll kill ya.

(06-15-2025 08:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-15-2025 01:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good grief! Who cares? He killed 2 people. It doesn't matter if he's a 3-legged blind transgender giraffe.

Whole thread is trying to claim he is a democrat, suddenly when it comes out that he is an anti LGBT, anti abortion, Trump supporter you are all “who cares”.

Oh well. Maybe we'll learn to pass laws to stop these threads from happening so frequently. If not it would be interesting for those who are not banned to compare why different ones are treated differently.

Offer a solution or STFU

Better yet, he can start his own thread and quit derailing this one or JR will make him STFU.