Hey Tom, you realize our personnel and equipment had all been removed from that base beforehand, right?

Iran did it to save face with their own people. No Americans were harmed. Nobody was harmed. Hell, apparently, no buildings were harmed.

The Iranians were making sure they didn't have the location wrong, lol.

Nice try at a gotcha, though.

(06-25-2025 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Now do Benghazi

Clown

(06-25-2025 09:19 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 09:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 09:10 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 09:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 08:36 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Why so gleeful at the possibility the mission wasn't as successful as hoped?

Why so angry all the time? You've had a burr under your saddle ever since Nov. 5.

Also, your first instruction to me is anatomically impossible.

And we, meaning Amercians, most likely do not have assets there. The Israelis might.

As to your last comment, please contact Hegseth and tell him he's dumb, too, since he contradicted that report. Do you think Hegseth doesn't have access to all sources within the Pentagon, including wherever the contradicting report came from? It's not just eyes on the real-time explosion, genius.

And if Hegseth doesn't know, then how would the unknown Pentagon sources know?

1. Not gleeful.
2. Not angry any time, unless my sports team loses.
3. We have all sorts of intelligence assets covering that area most likely, and yes, many are likely tied to Israel and other allies. That doesn't have to mean people directly on the ground. I heard a retired general explain all of it last night. Hertling I believe. He said the first report on such matters is almost always wrong.
4. Hegseth is an unqualified hack. And no, he didn't know what the ******* assessment was right after the attack. Nobody did.

You sound happy about the potential results being less than reported. Otherwise, you sound angry most of the time. Your problem, not mine.

Hegseth made comments well after the actual event. My point was, he has access to any intel that anybody else has, PLUS he saw the event.

The idea that you think Hegseth is an unqualified hack makes me laugh. Austin was a lot better, right? I don't recall you calling Austin a hack.

You don't know what I sound like, gramps. That's you're ******* problem here.

And yes, pretty much everyone without their head up trump's ass knew and have said that a drunk fox news host was not in any way qualified to run our largest government agency.

I'm obviously talking about the tone of your typed words, Einstein.

Show me your proof about Hegseth. The Pentagon seems to have been running pretty well the last few months.

As opposed to the withdrawal from Afghanistan. You criticized that, right?

You also ignored the question about Austin.

Tom’s a liar and truth is not in him. He’s blinded and brainwashed by progressive propaganda. He will never criticize tweedle Dee Milley or Tweedle dum Austin. Much less a brain rotted a Biden.

Waste of time engaging with someone who lacks critical thinking skills. It’s just not in him.

If you want a different perspective fine but he is a sounding board defending talking points of his masters. Not one original thought will ever come from him.

(06-25-2025 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Manufactured "outrage" by idiots. This was very good as Iran came to the table and needed an off ramp.

They called Trump, here is the basics of what was said:

Iran: We want an off ramp, but we need to save face with the people of Iran.

Trump: What are you thinking?"

Iran: How about we hit this base that we know you have no planes at right now?

Trump: Ok, what time are you thinking?

Iran: 1AM.

Trump: Ok, we'll let Qatar know, we'll blow up the missiles on the way, and we'll make sure nobody is nearby to get hurt.

Then Trump let's Hegseth and Qatar know. They shoot the missiles down, nobody is hurt, and Iran is given its off ramp.

(06-25-2025 10:42 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 09:19 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 09:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 09:10 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 09:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  1. Not gleeful.
2. Not angry any time, unless my sports team loses.
3. We have all sorts of intelligence assets covering that area most likely, and yes, many are likely tied to Israel and other allies. That doesn't have to mean people directly on the ground. I heard a retired general explain all of it last night. Hertling I believe. He said the first report on such matters is almost always wrong.
4. Hegseth is an unqualified hack. And no, he didn't know what the ******* assessment was right after the attack. Nobody did.

You sound happy about the potential results being less than reported. Otherwise, you sound angry most of the time. Your problem, not mine.

Hegseth made comments well after the actual event. My point was, he has access to any intel that anybody else has, PLUS he saw the event.

The idea that you think Hegseth is an unqualified hack makes me laugh. Austin was a lot better, right? I don't recall you calling Austin a hack.

You don't know what I sound like, gramps. That's you're ******* problem here.

And yes, pretty much everyone without their head up trump's ass knew and have said that a drunk fox news host was not in any way qualified to run our largest government agency.

I'm obviously talking about the tone of your typed words, Einstein.

Show me your proof about Hegseth. The Pentagon seems to have been running pretty well the last few months.

As opposed to the withdrawal from Afghanistan. You criticized that, right?

You also ignored the question about Austin.

Tom’s a liar and truth is not in him. He’s blinded and brainwashed by progressive propaganda. He will never criticize tweedle Dee Milley or Tweedle dum Austin. Much less a brain rotted a Biden.

Waste of time engaging with someone who lacks critical thinking skills. It’s just not in him.

If you want a different perspective fine but he is a sounding board defending talking points of his masters. Not one original thought will ever come from him.

Waste of time? Really? Shocker! lol

Anybody who thinks they can engage in a fruitful discussion with Tom is a moron. But when he directly quotes me, I will respond when I see fit. Usually to prove him wrong and make fun of him.

It's entertaining for a minute.

But thanks for your attention to this matter.

(06-25-2025 10:23 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I could be wrong, but I think I heard Trump say in the presser today that RedWingTom is a moron.

^^

(06-25-2025 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Hey Tom, you realize our personnel and equipment had all been removed from that base beforehand, right?

Iran did it to save face with their own people. No Americans were harmed. Nobody was harmed. Hell, apparently, no buildings were harmed.

The Iranians were making sure they didn't have the location wrong, lol.

Nice try at a gotcha, though.

I didn't quote you, old man.

Miss your daily dose of Prevagen?

(06-25-2025 11:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Hey Tom, you realize our personnel and equipment had all been removed from that base beforehand, right?

Iran did it to save face with their own people. No Americans were harmed. Nobody was harmed. Hell, apparently, no buildings were harmed.

The Iranians were making sure they didn't have the location wrong, lol.

Nice try at a gotcha, though.

I didn't quote you, old man.

Miss your daily dose of Prevagen?

You just quoted him with this post. Congratulations.

Now get back to work, knave!

(06-25-2025 10:43 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Manufactured "outrage" by idiots. This was very good as Iran came to the table and needed an off ramp.

They called Trump, here is the basics of what was said:

Iran: We want an off ramp, but we need to save face with the people of Iran.

Trump: What are you thinking?"

Iran: How about we hit this base that we know you have no planes at right now?

Trump: Ok, what time are you thinking?

Iran: 1AM.

Trump: Ok, we'll let Qatar know, we'll blow up the missiles on the way, and we'll make sure nobody is nearby to get hurt.

Then Trump let's Hegseth and Qatar know. They shoot the missiles down, nobody is hurt, and Iran is given its off ramp.

Baron isn't an "idiot."

(06-25-2025 11:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Baron isn't an "idiot."

He is on this. I don't know him from anyone else, but he just seems to be yelling because it was Trump.

(06-25-2025 11:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Hey Tom, you realize our personnel and equipment had all been removed from that base beforehand, right?

Iran did it to save face with their own people. No Americans were harmed. Nobody was harmed. Hell, apparently, no buildings were harmed.

The Iranians were making sure they didn't have the location wrong, lol.

Nice try at a gotcha, though.

I didn't quote you, old man.

Miss your daily dose of Prevagen?

Oh, you have to quote me before I can respond to your posts now?

By gotcha, I meant in general to righties, not to me. Anybody who has been on a message board more than 2 hours would realize that.

But nice try at a deflection to ignore the fact that you thought you were pulling one over on the right by pointing out that Trump gave permission to Iran to fire at our base in Qatar.

The one we had just abandoned. Which you obviously did not know.

The Qataris were pissed, though.

(06-25-2025 11:59 AM)TripleA Wrote:  The Qataris were pissed, though.

Saudis as well.

(06-25-2025 11:55 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 11:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Hey Tom, you realize our personnel and equipment had all been removed from that base beforehand, right?

Iran did it to save face with their own people. No Americans were harmed. Nobody was harmed. Hell, apparently, no buildings were harmed.

The Iranians were making sure they didn't have the location wrong, lol.

Nice try at a gotcha, though.

I didn't quote you, old man.

Miss your daily dose of Prevagen?

You just quoted him with this post. Congratulations.

Now get back to work, knave!

FFS, seek help.

He replied to me when I didn't quote him. Then posted that he doesn't do that.

TripleA Wrote:But when he directly quotes me, I will respond when I see fit.

Try to keep up.

(06-25-2025 11:59 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 11:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Baron isn't an "idiot."

He is on this. I don't know him from anyone else, but he just seems to be yelling because it was Trump.

That's your opinion. But since you don't know him....

And he does have a point. I'm sure you know what would be the current topic on Fox if Biden had did that.

(06-25-2025 11:59 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 11:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Baron isn't an "idiot."

He is on this. I don't know him from anyone else, but he just seems to be yelling because it was Trump.

At The Hague presser today, Trump and Hegseth both pushed back on Baron's post (not specifically, but the report in general), saying again that the sites were "obliterated."

Somehow, I'm thinking they know better than the anonymous sources.

(06-25-2025 11:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Hey Tom, you realize our personnel and equipment had all been removed from that base beforehand, right?

Iran did it to save face with their own people. No Americans were harmed. Nobody was harmed. Hell, apparently, no buildings were harmed.

The Iranians were making sure they didn't have the location wrong, lol.

Nice try at a gotcha, though.

I didn't quote you, old man.

Miss your daily dose of Prevagen?

Hey doofus, I never said I wouldn't respond to you when you don't quote me. I simply said I will when you do (assuming I see it). Try to keep up. I realize it's difficult for you.

(06-25-2025 12:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 11:59 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 11:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Baron isn't an "idiot."

He is on this. I don't know him from anyone else, but he just seems to be yelling because it was Trump.

That's your opinion. But since you don't know him....

And he does have a point. I'm sure you know what would be the current topic on Fox if Biden had did that.

Fully agree there. And I'd make the same argument as I did above. Nobody was nearby, nobody was going to get hurt, and it gave Iran an off ramp.

(06-25-2025 12:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 11:59 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 11:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Baron isn't an "idiot."

He is on this. I don't know him from anyone else, but he just seems to be yelling because it was Trump.

At The Hague presser today, Trump and Hegseth both pushed back on Baron's post (not specifically, but the report in general), saying again that the sites were "obliterated."

Somehow, I'm thinking they know better than the anonymous sources.

That was nothing to do with what Baron reported that Tom posted. He was referring to Trump saying he gave the green light for Iran to hit the base in Qatar.

(06-25-2025 12:08 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 12:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 11:59 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-25-2025 11:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Baron isn't an "idiot."

He is on this. I don't know him from anyone else, but he just seems to be yelling because it was Trump.

At The Hague presser today, Trump and Hegseth both pushed back on Baron's post (not specifically, but the report in general), saying again that the sites were "obliterated."

Somehow, I'm thinking they know better than the anonymous sources.

That was nothing to do with what Baron reported that Tom posted. He was referring to Trump saying he gave the green light for Iran to hit the base in Qatar.

I was responding to the MSNBC report inside Baron's post. I had already commented on the base being abandoned ahead of time. I realize I didn't make that clear. But I knew it, lol.