RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
Question for AI: Did bill Clinton seek permission from congress before bombing Serbia?
"President Bill Clinton did not seek formal permission from Congress before initiating NATO's bombing campaign against Serbia in 1999, known as Operation Allied Force. The military action, which began on March 24, 1999, was conducted under NATO's auspices to address the Kosovo crisis, specifically Serbia's actions against ethnic Albanians. Clinton justified the intervention on humanitarian grounds, citing the need to prevent genocide and regional destabilization, and relied on his authority as Commander-in-Chief to engage U.S. forces.
In short, Clinton acted unilaterally to initiate the bombing, informed Congress as required, but did not receive explicit congressional approval, sparking debate over the War Powers Resolution’s application."
The reader may recall the USA had nothing at stake in the conflict and yet it occurred without congressional authorization and the Dem's went along with it.
In contrast, a nuclear armed Iran is a material threat to the USA.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 08:36 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Question for AI: Did bill Clinton seek permission from congress before bombing Serbia?
"President Bill Clinton did not seek formal permission from Congress before initiating NATO's bombing campaign against Serbia in 1999, known as Operation Allied Force. The military action, which began on March 24, 1999, was conducted under NATO's auspices to address the Kosovo crisis, specifically Serbia's actions against ethnic Albanians. Clinton justified the intervention on humanitarian grounds, citing the need to prevent genocide and regional destabilization, and relied on his authority as Commander-in-Chief to engage U.S. forces.
In short, Clinton acted unilaterally to initiate the bombing, informed Congress as required, but did not receive explicit congressional approval, sparking debate over the War Powers Resolution’s application."
The reader may recall the USA had nothing at stake in the conflict and yet it occurred without congressional authorization and the Dem's went along with it.
In contrast, a nuclear armed Iran is a material threat to the USA.
Yeah, but...but...ORANGE MAN BAD! REEEEEE! /sarcasm
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 08:28 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(06-21-2025 08:06 PM)TripleA Wrote: Fox reporting that the US dropped SIX bunker busters on Fordow. It has been "completely obliterated."
The other two sites were taken care of by 30 Tomahawk missiles launched from US submarines tonight, some 400 miles away.
That’s $30M for what two B1s could have done with a full load of JDAMs ($800k).
If the Israelis have eliminated their air defenses there is no reason to use high dollar Tomahawks vs cheap JDAMs.
Why don't you contact Trump, Hegseth and General Caine and tell them they screwed up, that you know better?
Turns out they used 7 B2s, dropping a total of 14 bunker busters on 2 of the sites, and 24+ Tomahawks on the third site.
On behalf of the United States, I apologize that our military leaders, who obviously know less than you do, screwed up the mission by spending too much money on munitions.
P.S. Without actual military Intel, to which I'm convinced you have no access, that may be one of the dumbest posts ever made on here.
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2025 08:42 AM by TripleA.)
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 08:31 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(06-22-2025 08:28 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(06-21-2025 08:06 PM)TripleA Wrote: Fox reporting that the US dropped SIX bunker busters on Fordow. It has been "completely obliterated."
The other two sites were taken care of by 30 Tomahawk missiles launched from US submarines tonight, some 400 miles away.
That’s $30M for what two B1s could have done with a full load of JDAMs ($800k).
If the Israelis have eliminated their air defenses there is no reason to use high dollar Tomahawks vs cheap JDAMs.
You are just mad Trump pulled this off without a single lesbian firefighter trying to use hydrants hooked up to an empty reservoir.
Always a sign you have no valid argument against the content of my post and I’m right when you make an expletive laden post calling me names, then edit it to some random rant not about the subject.
Why don’t you try addressing the content of my post if you feel so strongly about it, instead of posting your stupid nonsense? JDAMs are dirt cheap, and the Israelis have supposedly achieved air superiority over IRAN. If that is the case $30M of tomahawks is a waste when $800k in JDAMs will have the same effect.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 08:41 AM)TripleA Wrote:
(06-22-2025 08:28 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(06-21-2025 08:06 PM)TripleA Wrote: Fox reporting that the US dropped SIX bunker busters on Fordow. It has been "completely obliterated."
The other two sites were taken care of by 30 Tomahawk missiles launched from US submarines tonight, some 400 miles away.
That’s $30M for what two B1s could have done with a full load of JDAMs ($800k).
If the Israelis have eliminated their air defenses there is no reason to use high dollar Tomahawks vs cheap JDAMs.
Why don't you contact Trump, Hegseth and General Caine and tell them they screwed up, that you know better?
Turns out they used 7 B2s, dropping a total of 14 bunker busters on 2 of the sites, and 24+ Tomahawks on the third site.
On behalf of the United States, I apologize that our military leaders, who obviously know less than you do, screwed up the mission by spending too much money on munitions.
P.S. Without actual military Intel, to which I'm convinced you have no access, that may be one of the dumbest posts ever made on here.
Something tells me people like Elvis wear their ignorance on their sleeve like it's a badge of honor.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 08:38 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:
(06-22-2025 08:36 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Question for AI: Did bill Clinton seek permission from congress before bombing Serbia?
"President Bill Clinton did not seek formal permission from Congress before initiating NATO's bombing campaign against Serbia in 1999, known as Operation Allied Force. The military action, which began on March 24, 1999, was conducted under NATO's auspices to address the Kosovo crisis, specifically Serbia's actions against ethnic Albanians. Clinton justified the intervention on humanitarian grounds, citing the need to prevent genocide and regional destabilization, and relied on his authority as Commander-in-Chief to engage U.S. forces.
In short, Clinton acted unilaterally to initiate the bombing, informed Congress as required, but did not receive explicit congressional approval, sparking debate over the War Powers Resolution’s application."
The reader may recall the USA had nothing at stake in the conflict and yet it occurred without congressional authorization and the Dem's went along with it.
In contrast, a nuclear armed Iran is a material threat to the USA.
Yeah, but...but...ORANGE MAN BAD! REEEEEE! /sarcasm
Hypocrites.
Generally speaking the president has engaged in limited military action for up to 90 days without congressional approval.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 07:47 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: CBS just can’t help themselves. At 9 I turned on the tube to see what statement Trump was going to make. Before Trump could even speak the broadcaster same one in the biased debate said the US had entered the war and bombed Iran in support of Israel.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 08:46 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(06-22-2025 08:31 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(06-22-2025 08:28 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(06-21-2025 08:06 PM)TripleA Wrote: Fox reporting that the US dropped SIX bunker busters on Fordow. It has been "completely obliterated."
The other two sites were taken care of by 30 Tomahawk missiles launched from US submarines tonight, some 400 miles away.
That’s $30M for what two B1s could have done with a full load of JDAMs ($800k).
If the Israelis have eliminated their air defenses there is no reason to use high dollar Tomahawks vs cheap JDAMs.
You are just mad Trump pulled this off without a single lesbian firefighter trying to use hydrants hooked up to an empty reservoir.
Always a sign you have no valid argument against the content of my post and I’m right when you make an expletive laden post calling me names, then edit it to some random rant not about the subject.
Why don’t you try addressing the content of my post if you feel so strongly about it, instead of posting your stupid nonsense? JDAMs are dirt cheap, and the Israelis have supposedly achieved air superiority over IRAN. If that is the case $30M of tomahawks is a waste when $800k in JDAMs will have the same effect.
You obviously believe you have all the Intel to make that determination. You don't. Which makes it an ignorant post, to be polite.
Second guessing military action from an armchair is the height of arrogance.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 08:46 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(06-22-2025 08:31 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(06-22-2025 08:28 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(06-21-2025 08:06 PM)TripleA Wrote: Fox reporting that the US dropped SIX bunker busters on Fordow. It has been "completely obliterated."
The other two sites were taken care of by 30 Tomahawk missiles launched from US submarines tonight, some 400 miles away.
That’s $30M for what two B1s could have done with a full load of JDAMs ($800k).
If the Israelis have eliminated their air defenses there is no reason to use high dollar Tomahawks vs cheap JDAMs.
You are just mad Trump pulled this off without a single lesbian firefighter trying to use hydrants hooked up to an empty reservoir.
Always a sign you have no valid argument against the content of my post and I’m right when you make an expletive laden post calling me names, then edit it to some random rant not about the subject.
Why don’t you try addressing the content of my post if you feel so strongly about it, instead of posting your stupid nonsense? JDAMs are dirt cheap, and the Israelis have supposedly achieved air superiority over IRAN. If that is the case $30M of tomahawks is a waste when $800k in JDAMs will have the same effect.
How do you know? Are you a military expert?
You're not? You're just talking out of your ass, as usual?
Maybe you should quit talking and sit this one out. You'll actually come of smarter than continuing to show your ignorance.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 08:41 AM)TripleA Wrote:
(06-22-2025 08:28 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(06-21-2025 08:06 PM)TripleA Wrote: Fox reporting that the US dropped SIX bunker busters on Fordow. It has been "completely obliterated."
The other two sites were taken care of by 30 Tomahawk missiles launched from US submarines tonight, some 400 miles away.
That’s $30M for what two B1s could have done with a full load of JDAMs ($800k).
If the Israelis have eliminated their air defenses there is no reason to use high dollar Tomahawks vs cheap JDAMs.
Why don't you contact Trump, Hegseth and General Caine and tell them they screwed up, that you know better?
Turns out they used 7 B2s, dropping a total of 14 bunker busters on 2 of the sites, and 24+ Tomahawks on the third site.
On behalf of the United States, I apologize that our military leaders, who obviously know less than you do, screwed up the mission by spending too much money on munitions.
P.S. Without actual military Intel, to which I'm convinced you have no access, that may be one of the dumbest posts ever made on here.
The most likely way that this went down is that the Navy didn’t want to be left out, so they got a piece of the action even though a B1 flight could have done the job much cheaper.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 08:48 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(06-22-2025 08:38 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:
(06-22-2025 08:36 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Question for AI: Did bill Clinton seek permission from congress before bombing Serbia?
"President Bill Clinton did not seek formal permission from Congress before initiating NATO's bombing campaign against Serbia in 1999, known as Operation Allied Force. The military action, which began on March 24, 1999, was conducted under NATO's auspices to address the Kosovo crisis, specifically Serbia's actions against ethnic Albanians. Clinton justified the intervention on humanitarian grounds, citing the need to prevent genocide and regional destabilization, and relied on his authority as Commander-in-Chief to engage U.S. forces.
In short, Clinton acted unilaterally to initiate the bombing, informed Congress as required, but did not receive explicit congressional approval, sparking debate over the War Powers Resolution’s application."
The reader may recall the USA had nothing at stake in the conflict and yet it occurred without congressional authorization and the Dem's went along with it.
In contrast, a nuclear armed Iran is a material threat to the USA.
Yeah, but...but...ORANGE MAN BAD! REEEEEE! /sarcasm
Hypocrites.
Generally speaking the president has engaged in limited military action for up to 90 days without congressional approval.
Yeah, and he acted well within his scope, according to the War Powers Act.
But hey, continue to complain just to complain. We enjoy laughing at your ignorance and arrogance.
/
US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
/sarcasm
