RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
lol Sure you would be, CLT. I'll believe that when my **** turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbet.
Really, if you're going to get mad at Trump for doing this, then get mad at Obama, Hillary (as Obama's Secretary of State), and Biden for allowing things to get to this point with their combined policies. Otherwise, you look like a hypocrite. Not sayin', just sayin'.
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2025 12:32 AM by GeminiCoog.)
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 12:32 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote: lol Sure you would be, CLT. I'll believe that when my **** turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbet.
Really, if you're going to get mad at Trump for doing this, then get mad at Obama, Hillary (as Obama's Secretary of State), and Biden for allowing things to get to this point with their combined policies. Otherwise, you look like a hypocrite. Not sayin', just sayin'.
How about this, nearly every single conflict we have gotten into since WW2 has been completely avoidable and a waste of human lives, resources and tax payer dollars.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 12:17 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:
You think this is going to be a war? Iran cant do much but blindly lob rockets at Israel and they are close to be out of those...
so what exactly is Iran going to war vs the US, with? Hell Israel has 100% control over Iran right now with a tiny fraction of the fire power. You really think after seeing that video of the fireball from the hit on the mountain....
Iran will want more? As I said in another post little more than whack the mole
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 12:38 AM)hburg Wrote: The majority left going pro Iran because it opposes Trump is amazing.
Yep. But when you point it out, they gaslight you. Heck, when you point out that some of them would be cheering if Obama or Biden had done this (or even Bill Clinton), they shout at you like you just killed one of their parents, children, or spouse. It's definitely a sight to behold.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
Reactions based on political leanings are predictable yet confining. Arguing about who is to blame may momentarily take our minds off the uncertainty of what lies ahead, but imo it is pointless.
We have entered a war of unknowable scope to finish what Israel started against a country of 90 million people. The distance between Iran and the United States, btw, is approximately 7,258 miles as the crow flies--the shortest distance between our countries.
Iran's weapons include a mix from Western countries, especially the U.S.. More recently they have relied on Russia, China, and North Korea.
Iran's Retaliatory Choices:
1. Missile and Drone Attacks
2. Proxy Warfare: Iran could leverage its influence over proxy groups in the region to carry out attacks against US and Israeli interests.
3. Cyber Operations: Iran has a history of using cyber warfare as a form of retaliation. The IRGC-affiliated Mabna Institute has targeted American and Israeli financial institutions, utilities, and military networks, causing both economic harm and symbolic blows.
4. Blocking the Strait of Hormuz: Iran has the capability to disrupt shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, a vital passage through which close to 20 percent of the world's oil is transported.
5. Attacks on Oil Facilities: Iran could target Saudi Arabian or UAE oil fields and refineries, similar to what it reportedly did in 2019. Such attacks could raise global oil prices and destabilize the energy market, creating economic turmoil.
6. Direct Retaliation Against the US: Iran might launch direct attacks on US military assets in the region. American military bases in Iraq, Syria, and the Gulf are within range of Iran’s Sejil-2 ballistic missile, making them potential targets.
Long story short. We have all been here before.
did it turn out well? I don't recall any victory parades.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 12:39 AM)WKUYG Wrote:
(06-22-2025 12:17 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:
You think this is going to be a war? Iran cant do much but blindly lob rockets at Israel and they are close to be out of those...
so what exactly is Iran going to war vs the US, with? Hell Israel has 100% control over Iran right now with a tiny fraction of the fire power. You really think after seeing that video of the fireball from the hit on the mountain....
Iran will want more? As I said in another post little more than whack the mole
Iran will likely eventually back down from their nuclear program for now but the only way to completely stop Iran would be regime change and that won’t happen without a ground war. Iran has 10 times the population of Israel and I’m willing to guess that the vast majority of Iranian people will not be ready to welcome an Israeli/American puppet state. So even if the regime is toppled you will have decades of insurgency going on.
Invading Iran would be an awful decision even if we are just supporting Israel in doing it.
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2025 12:46 AM by CLTPirate.)
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 12:37 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:
(06-22-2025 12:32 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote: lol Sure you would be, CLT. I'll believe that when my **** turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbet.
Really, if you're going to get mad at Trump for doing this, then get mad at Obama, Hillary (as Obama's Secretary of State), and Biden for allowing things to get to this point with their combined policies. Otherwise, you look like a hypocrite. Not sayin', just sayin'.
How about this, nearly every single conflict we have gotten into since WW2 has been completely avoidable and a waste of human lives, resources and tax payer dollars.
You are dead wrong to lump this in with anything else that has took place. This is no war nor will it be a conflict for long. Trump might have to seen in another bomber or two to clean up. But that's it.
This was to make sure your children and their children and a few other generations wont have to be threaten by Iran with a nuke. Lets say they dont have it, and not with in months. Irans goal is to own nukes and Iran with nukes is the most dangerous country in the world.
So maybe you should be saying "thank you President Trump for making this a safer world". Someone needed to step up and do that. The lack of other world leaders being upset tells you they think it needed to be done.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 12:43 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:
(06-22-2025 12:39 AM)WKUYG Wrote:
(06-22-2025 12:17 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:
You think this is going to be a war? Iran cant do much but blindly lob rockets at Israel and they are close to be out of those...
so what exactly is Iran going to war vs the US, with? Hell Israel has 100% control over Iran right now with a tiny fraction of the fire power. You really think after seeing that video of the fireball from the hit on the mountain....
Iran will want more? As I said in another post little more than whack the mole
Iran will likely eventually back down from their nuclear program for now but the only way to completely stop Iran would be regime change and that won’t happen without a ground war. Iran has 10 times the population of Israel and I’m willing to guess that the vast majority of Iranian people will be ready to welcome an Israeli/American puppet state.
Invading Iran would be an awful decision even if we are just supporting Israel in doing it.
Israel took out many members of the death cult's leadership over the past week and a half. The only major one remaining is the Ayatollah himself.
And I seem to remember the Iranian people protesting in the street several years ago calling for more freedoms (read: A more western-style government), and that was met with the Iranian Republican Guard shooting at them, turning the protest into a deadly one. The Iranian people as a whole don't like the death cult running their country. They want to go back to having more freedom.
As much as we disagree on this, we do agree that we don't need to put American boots on the ground. Preferably, I don't want either us or Israel to invade Iran. I'd rather the people of Iran rise up. Hopefully, this is the catalyst for a pro-western revolution in that country.
Also, what my colleague WKUYG said.
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2025 05:27 AM by GeminiCoog.)
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 12:43 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:
(06-22-2025 12:39 AM)WKUYG Wrote:
(06-22-2025 12:17 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:
You think this is going to be a war? Iran cant do much but blindly lob rockets at Israel and they are close to be out of those...
so what exactly is Iran going to war vs the US, with? Hell Israel has 100% control over Iran right now with a tiny fraction of the fire power. You really think after seeing that video of the fireball from the hit on the mountain....
Iran will want more? As I said in another post little more than whack the mole
Iran will likely eventually back down from their nuclear program for now but the only way to completely stop Iran would be regime change and that won’t happen without a ground war. Iran has 10 times the population of Israel and I’m willing to guess that the vast majority of Iranian people will not be ready to welcome an Israeli/American puppet state. So even if the regime is toppled you will have decades of insurgency going on.
Invading Iran would be an awful decision even if we are just supporting Israel in doing it.
The fact you even think Israel or America is going to invade Iran, is foolish. While the world would welcome a regime change. If it takes place it will come from the people in Iran. Not America or Israel. It took Iran 40+ years to get to this point so no matter who their leader is it'll take them another 50 years to get back to here.....
I will gladly take that and my bet most of the world leaders were saying..."Hell yeah!" tonight.
X and Putin, most likely went...."Oh shite" after seeing that fireball that took out a mountain. Israel does not have a unlimited time to keep bombing Iran. Sometime very soon President Trump is putting a stop to that.....
Job Complete. That's what this was, for President Trump, a job to take out Irans nukes. If regime change happens then that's cake but the US is short time in this part. Israel time is also getting shorter.
Like him or hate him President Trump probably hates war/conflict more than any president. I think he just hate death, so no way he went into this long term. Make no mistake, I believe, even if he hates it, President Trump would do what it took to protect America even if this went into a war. Its not and I also believe our President would fight any war to actually win....
something others never did do in your list
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2025 01:10 AM by WKUYG.)
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 01:01 AM)WKUYG Wrote:
(06-22-2025 12:43 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:
(06-22-2025 12:39 AM)WKUYG Wrote:
(06-22-2025 12:17 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:
You think this is going to be a war? Iran cant do much but blindly lob rockets at Israel and they are close to be out of those...
so what exactly is Iran going to war vs the US, with? Hell Israel has 100% control over Iran right now with a tiny fraction of the fire power. You really think after seeing that video of the fireball from the hit on the mountain....
Iran will want more? As I said in another post little more than whack the mole
Iran will likely eventually back down from their nuclear program for now but the only way to completely stop Iran would be regime change and that won’t happen without a ground war. Iran has 10 times the population of Israel and I’m willing to guess that the vast majority of Iranian people will not be ready to welcome an Israeli/American puppet state. So even if the regime is toppled you will have decades of insurgency going on.
Invading Iran would be an awful decision even if we are just supporting Israel in doing it.
The fact you even think Israel or America is going to invade Iran, is foolish. While the world would welcome a regime change. If it takes place it will come from the people in Iran. Not America or Israel. It took Iran 40+ years to get to this point so no matter who their leader is it'll take them another 50 years to get back to here.....
I will gladly take that and my bet most of the world leaders were saying..."Hell yeah!" tonight.
X and Putin, most likely went...."Oh shite" after seeing that fireball that took out a mountain. Israel does not have a unlimited time to keep bombing Iran. Sometime very soon President Trump is putting a stop to that.....
Job Complete. That's what this was, for President Trump, a job to take out Irans nukes. If regime change happens then that's cake but the US is short time in this part. Israel time is also getting shorter
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
I don't remember who said it, but earlier this week, someone on Fox said America First doesn't mean America only. We should be looking out for our ally Israel as well, especially since the Jewish State has to deal with terrorists on almost all sides, all coming from organizations funded by the death cult running Iran.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 12:41 AM)snowtiger Wrote: Reactions based on political leanings are predictable yet confining. Arguing about who is to blame may momentarily take our minds off the uncertainty of what lies ahead, but imo it is pointless. We have entered a war of unknowable scope to finish what Israel started against a country of 90 million people. The distance between Iran and the United States, btw, is approximately 7,258 miles as the crow flies--the shortest distance between our countries.
Iran's weapons include a mix from Western countries, especially the U.S.. More recently they have relied on Russia, China, and North Korea.
Iran's Retaliatory Choices:
1. Missile and Drone Attacks
2. Proxy Warfare: Iran could leverage its influence over proxy groups in the region to carry out attacks against US and Israeli interests.
3. Cyber Operations: Iran has a history of using cyber warfare as a form of retaliation. The IRGC-affiliated Mabna Institute has targeted American and Israeli financial institutions, utilities, and military networks, causing both economic harm and symbolic blows.
4. Blocking the Strait of Hormuz: Iran has the capability to disrupt shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, a vital passage through which close to 20 percent of the world's oil is transported.
5. Attacks on Oil Facilities: Iran could target Saudi Arabian or UAE oil fields and refineries, similar to what it reportedly did in 2019. Such attacks could raise global oil prices and destabilize the energy market, creating economic turmoil.
6. Direct Retaliation Against the US: Iran might launch direct attacks on US military assets in the region. American military bases in Iraq, Syria, and the Gulf are within range of Iran’s Sejil-2 ballistic missile, making them potential targets.
Long story short. We have all been here before.
did it turn out well? I don't recall any victory parades.
That is one of the most dishonest and downright ignorant posts I have ever seen here on this.
Israel did not start this war, Iran did when it ordered its terrorist proxies to pull off one of the most deadly terrorist attacks in recorded history against woman, children and the most helpless and innocent people of all.
For you to say Israel started this war just shows how corrupted and completely insane your view on this topic is.
You had to gall to point to political leanings on the views here, then vomited up one of the most dishonest, far left, pro terrorist views you could muster on this.
Regardless of how you feel about us bombing Iran's nuclear sites, if you can't even understand and see the moral difference between how Iran started this through one of the most disgusting terrorist attacks in modern history, and its non stop bombing of purely civilian targets since compared with Israels retaliation against hard military sites then you are too lost and ignorant to even be commenting on this.
Its debatable whether we should bomb those sites, and our country is having a healthy debate about that very thing (the republican party and conservatives are split down the middle on this). But what you said was ignorant, disgusting and embarrassing.
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2025 07:07 AM by ericsrevenge76.)
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
(06-22-2025 05:23 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: That is one of the most dishonest and downright ignorant posts I have ever seen here on this.
Israel did not start this war, Iran did when it ordered it terrorist proxies to pull off one of the most deadly terrorist attacks in recorded history against woman, children and the most helpless and innocent people of all.
For you to say Israel started this war just shows how corrupted and completely insane your view on this topic is.
You had to gall to point to political leanings on the views here, then vomited up one of the most dishonest, far left, pro terrorist views you could muster on this.
Regardless of how you feel about us bombing Iran's nuclear sites, if you can't even understand and see the moral difference between how Iran started this through the most disgusting terrorist attacks in modern hsitory, and its non stop bombing of purely civilian targets since with Israels retaliation against hard military sites then you are too lost and ignorant to even be commenting on this.
Its debatable whether we should bomb those sites, and our country is having a healthy about that very thing (the republican party and conservatives are split down the middle on this). But what you said was ignorant and disgusting and embarrassing.
Exactly. In fact, one could say the Islamic Republic of Iran has been at war with both the U.S. and Israel since 1979.
RE: US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
Per reports Iran has deployed their Navy in the Persian Gulf either to try and close the straight of Hormuz or to confront the US Navy or for survival... Not sure which one.
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US enters Iran war. Strikes 3 nuclear sites, including Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan
