(04-17-2025 05:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

But the Biden administration who broke the law thousands and thousands of times of day was ok with you? They literally oversaw the world’s largest human smuggling operation in the history of the world. And helped cartels find a new line of business that has endangered hundreds of thousands of more lives. The number of people killed, raped, or had every penny they owned extorted from them is unbearable for me to even think about. You can’t be serious!

The Biden approach to the border was horrendous.

And I (and many others) have zero problem with a far stronger border policy, *and* having a far more active deportation regime for illegal aliens.

When it gets to denying due process in full, that is way beyond the line.

And no, your giant whadabout excuse simply is..... a giant whadabout that attempts to retionalize and normalize the Trump excess.

Sorry, there is no fing 'war' with Venezuela that allows deportation of Venezuelans with no due process -- which is precisely what happened with what appears two planeloads last week. I will grant you if there was a war with Venezuela, the Trump actions under the EAA would have been proper and legal. There isnt. And its not.

it looks like Abrego got caught up in the party that the Trump regime kicked off last week with the EAA. In his case, its a triple problem. In addition to the double problem of a blatant thin ass lie to rationalize insta-depoortations, and the insta-deportations under the EAA occurring with a lack of due process, Abrego has the added problem that he had a pre-existing hold, from a competent previous hearing, barring the actions that happened. That is, he had the results of his previous application of due process washed away automatically. Kind of fing grotesque.

Again -- do it correctly. If the detainees were processed in accordance with the standards of due process, thats great. From the record provided in Boasberg's court, that may not have happened.

From the record in Xinis's court, its pretty obvious that Abrego wasnt afforded *any* due process when his 'do not deport' order was violated from what appears to be on a whim.

Look, this isnt a defense of the Biden border policy. Its stupid to use that as the grand whadabout to justify and rationalize executive overreach and what appears to be a pretty stark violation of due process.

I guess the Republican stance should now be 'Fk due process, its not so great.'

And no, being a champion of due process should not be solely a liberal thing. Infortunately that seems to be the trajectory.

(04-17-2025 07:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

But the Biden administration who broke the law thousands and thousands of times of day was ok with you? They literally oversaw the world’s largest human smuggling operation in the history of the world. And helped cartels find a new line of business that has endangered hundreds of thousands of more lives. The number of people killed, raped, or had every penny they owned extorted from them is unbearable for me to even think about. You can’t be serious!

The Biden approach to the border was horrendous.

And I (and many others) have zero problem with a far stronger border policy, *and* having a far more active deportation regime for illegal aliens.

When it gets to denying due process in full, that is way beyond the line.

And no, your giant whadabout excuse simply is..... a giant whadabout that attempts to retionalize and normalize the Trump excess.

Sorry, there is no fing 'war' with Venezuela that allows deportation of Venezuelans with no due process -- which is precisely what happened with what appears two planeloads last week. I will grant you if there was a war with Venezuela, the Trump actions under the EAA would have been proper and legal. There isnt. And its not.

it looks like Abrego got caught up in the party that the Trump regime kicked off last week with the EAA. In his case, its a triple problem. In addition to the double problem of a blatant thin ass lie to rationalize insta-depoortations, and the insta-deportations under the EAA occurring with a lack of due process, Abrego has the added problem that he had a pre-existing hold, from a competent previous hearing, barring the actions that happened. That is, he had the results of his previous application of due process washed away automatically. Kind of fing grotesque.

Again -- do it correctly. If the detainees were processed in accordance with the standards of due process, thats great. From the record provided in Boasberg's court, that may not have happened.

From the record in Xinis's court, its pretty obvious that Abrego wasnt afforded *any* due process when his 'do not deport' order was violated from what appears to be on a whim.

Look, this isnt a defense of the Biden border policy. Its stupid to use that as the grand whadabout to justify and rationalize executive overreach and what appears to be a pretty stark violation of due process.

I guess the Republican stance should now be 'Fk due process, its not so great.'

And no, being a champion of due process should not be solely a liberal thing. Infortunately that seems to be the trajectory.

Democrats are not liberal. They are seditious prog filth.

Yes

The republican stance is frick terrorist invaders, ms13, rapists and wife beaters that arent citizens. Yes frick their constitutional rights.

Blow their brains out for that matter.

Whiney stupid dollar store lawyer tears make us happy too.

You got it.

Cool cool.

(04-17-2025 07:53 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 07:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

But the Biden administration who broke the law thousands and thousands of times of day was ok with you? They literally oversaw the world’s largest human smuggling operation in the history of the world. And helped cartels find a new line of business that has endangered hundreds of thousands of more lives. The number of people killed, raped, or had every penny they owned extorted from them is unbearable for me to even think about. You can’t be serious!

The Biden approach to the border was horrendous.

And I (and many others) have zero problem with a far stronger border policy, *and* having a far more active deportation regime for illegal aliens.

When it gets to denying due process in full, that is way beyond the line.

And no, your giant whadabout excuse simply is..... a giant whadabout that attempts to retionalize and normalize the Trump excess.

Sorry, there is no fing 'war' with Venezuela that allows deportation of Venezuelans with no due process -- which is precisely what happened with what appears two planeloads last week. I will grant you if there was a war with Venezuela, the Trump actions under the EAA would have been proper and legal. There isnt. And its not.

it looks like Abrego got caught up in the party that the Trump regime kicked off last week with the EAA. In his case, its a triple problem. In addition to the double problem of a blatant thin ass lie to rationalize insta-depoortations, and the insta-deportations under the EAA occurring with a lack of due process, Abrego has the added problem that he had a pre-existing hold, from a competent previous hearing, barring the actions that happened. That is, he had the results of his previous application of due process washed away automatically. Kind of fing grotesque.

Again -- do it correctly. If the detainees were processed in accordance with the standards of due process, thats great. From the record provided in Boasberg's court, that may not have happened.

From the record in Xinis's court, its pretty obvious that Abrego wasnt afforded *any* due process when his 'do not deport' order was violated from what appears to be on a whim.

Look, this isnt a defense of the Biden border policy. Its stupid to use that as the grand whadabout to justify and rationalize executive overreach and what appears to be a pretty stark violation of due process.

I guess the Republican stance should now be 'Fk due process, its not so great.'

And no, being a champion of due process should not be solely a liberal thing. Infortunately that seems to be the trajectory.

Democrats are not liberal. They are seditious prog filth.

Yes

The republican stance is frick terrorist invaders, ms13, rapists and wife beaters that arent citizens. Yes frick their constitutional rights.

Blow their brains out for that matter.

Whiney stupid dollar store lawyer tears make us happy too.

You got it.

Cool cool.

You could have saved a lot of keystrokes and just said 'YES!! 'Fk due process, its not so great.'

Later later shere Karen

(04-17-2025 07:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

But the Biden administration who broke the law thousands and thousands of times of day was ok with you? They literally oversaw the world’s largest human smuggling operation in the history of the world. And helped cartels find a new line of business that has endangered hundreds of thousands of more lives. The number of people killed, raped, or had every penny they owned extorted from them is unbearable for me to even think about. You can’t be serious!

The Biden approach to the border was horrendous.

And I (and many others) have zero problem with a far stronger border policy, *and* having a far more active deportation regime for illegal aliens.

When it gets to denying due process in full, that is way beyond the line.

And no, your giant whadabout excuse simply is..... a giant whadabout that attempts to retionalize and normalize the Trump excess.

Sorry, there is no fing 'war' with Venezuela that allows deportation of Venezuelans with no due process -- which is precisely what happened with what appears two planeloads last week. I will grant you if there was a war with Venezuela, the Trump actions under the EAA would have been proper and legal. There isnt. And its not.

it looks like Abrego got caught up in the party that the Trump regime kicked off last week with the EAA. In his case, its a triple problem. In addition to the double problem of a blatant thin ass lie to rationalize insta-depoortations, and the insta-deportations under the EAA occurring with a lack of due process, Abrego has the added problem that he had a pre-existing hold, from a competent previous hearing, barring the actions that happened. That is, he had the results of his previous application of due process washed away automatically. Kind of fing grotesque.

Again -- do it correctly. If the detainees were processed in accordance with the standards of due process, thats great. From the record provided in Boasberg's court, that may not have happened.

From the record in Xinis's court, its pretty obvious that Abrego wasnt afforded *any* due process when his 'do not deport' order was violated from what appears to be on a whim.

Look, this isnt a defense of the Biden border policy. Its stupid to use that as the grand whadabout to justify and rationalize executive overreach and what appears to be a pretty stark violation of due process.

I guess the Republican stance should now be 'Fk due process, its not so great.'

And no, being a champion of due process should not be solely a liberal thing. Infortunately that seems to be the trajectory.

The other problem is that the people that are being “deported” aren’t actually being deported. They are being imprisoned in a concentration camp without being convicted of a crime.

If someone is here illegally deport them with due process, which involves sending them back to their country. Snatching Venezuelan asylum seekers off the street and incarcerating them in a concentration camp with zero due process is basically the playbook for Germany's final solution.

“ In the months following the Wannsee Conference, the Nazi regime continued to carry out their plans for the "Final Solution." Jews were "deported"—transported by trains or trucks to six camps, all located in occupied Poland: Chelmno, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, Auschwitz-Birkenau, and Majdanek-Lublin.”

German Jews were “deported” to Poland…

We are a country with an established framework of human rights encoded into our constitution. Trump is attempting to trample those rights and build the precedent to disappear anyone into an el Salvadoran concentration camp and say “oh well, can’t get them back”.

He has already said he wants to send American citizens there.

I'm not reading 33 pages about this to catch up, so I imagine someone else has likely said this already. But it isn't about the alleged gang member, it's about the rule of law.

It is unquestioned that he is an illegal alien who does not belong in this country. The government has every right to deport him. BUT the one place he cannot be sent, by order of a US federal court, is home to El Salvador.

Court orders must be appealed or obeyed...and there is no appealing from the Supreme Court directive to facilitate his return. The government can then deport him to any willing nation on the planet, save El Salvador.
Alternately, they can hold him in US custody while they appeal the order which prevents him being sent home. It won't be hard to find another nation to take him, offer some 3rd world country a favor and they'll happily comply.

The rule of law protects us all, and there is a right way to do things within our system. Every time you cheer something lawless the Trump administration does because you like that particular action, remember that someday we'll hold the levers of power again. Respect the guardrails NOW because you definitely want them to still be in place THEN.

(04-17-2025 08:46 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 08:19 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 07:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

But the Biden administration who broke the law thousands and thousands of times of day was ok with you? They literally oversaw the world’s largest human smuggling operation in the history of the world. And helped cartels find a new line of business that has endangered hundreds of thousands of more lives. The number of people killed, raped, or had every penny they owned extorted from them is unbearable for me to even think about. You can’t be serious!

The Biden approach to the border was horrendous.

And I (and many others) have zero problem with a far stronger border policy, *and* having a far more active deportation regime for illegal aliens.

When it gets to denying due process in full, that is way beyond the line.

And no, your giant whadabout excuse simply is..... a giant whadabout that attempts to retionalize and normalize the Trump excess.

Sorry, there is no fing 'war' with Venezuela that allows deportation of Venezuelans with no due process -- which is precisely what happened with what appears two planeloads last week. I will grant you if there was a war with Venezuela, the Trump actions under the EAA would have been proper and legal. There isnt. And its not.

it looks like Abrego got caught up in the party that the Trump regime kicked off last week with the EAA. In his case, its a triple problem. In addition to the double problem of a blatant thin ass lie to rationalize insta-depoortations, and the insta-deportations under the EAA occurring with a lack of due process, Abrego has the added problem that he had a pre-existing hold, from a competent previous hearing, barring the actions that happened. That is, he had the results of his previous application of due process washed away automatically. Kind of fing grotesque.

Again -- do it correctly. If the detainees were processed in accordance with the standards of due process, thats great. From the record provided in Boasberg's court, that may not have happened.

From the record in Xinis's court, its pretty obvious that Abrego wasnt afforded *any* due process when his 'do not deport' order was violated from what appears to be on a whim.

Look, this isnt a defense of the Biden border policy. Its stupid to use that as the grand whadabout to justify and rationalize executive overreach and what appears to be a pretty stark violation of due process.

I guess the Republican stance should now be 'Fk due process, its not so great.'

And no, being a champion of due process should not be solely a liberal thing. Infortunately that seems to be the trajectory.

The other problem is that the people that are being “deported” aren’t actually being deported. They are being imprisoned in a concentration camp without being convicted of a crime.

If someone is here illegally deport them with due process, which involves sending them back to their country. Snatching Venezuelan asylum seekers off the street and incarcerating them in a concentration camp with zero due process is basically the playbook for Germany's final solution.

“ In the months following the Wannsee Conference, the Nazi regime continued to carry out their plans for the "Final Solution." Jews were "deported"—transported by trains or trucks to six camps, all located in occupied Poland: Chelmno, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, Auschwitz-Birkenau, and Majdanek-Lublin.”

German Jews were “deported” to Poland…

We are a country with an established framework of human rights encoded into our constitution. Trump is attempting to trample those rights and build the precedent to disappear anyone into an el Salvadoran concentration camp and say “oh well, can’t get them back”.

He has already said he wants to send American citizens there.

You're such a retard

20 million invaders you cocksuckin POS, with all due respect.

Overwhelming dollars to support these clowns and fuckin retards like you crying foul on supposed gay barbers and soccer players getting shipped out of our sovereign country.

Can you imagine the plot of Sicario with these homo mfers posting in this thread?

I mean it would a 5 min film of them laying down, taking it in the ass and then taking a bullet, roll credits

Retards



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If they have committed a crime imprison them.

If they are here illegally and have a deportation order send them to their own country.

The constitution supports both options.

It doesn’t support throwing them in a concentration camp in a foreign country for the rest of their lives without a trial.

This is basic levels of human rights that go back to the Magna Carta.

(04-17-2025 08:53 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  I'm not reading 33 pages about this to catch up, so I imagine someone else has likely said this already. But it isn't about the alleged gang member, it's about the rule of law.

It is unquestioned that he is an illegal alien who does not belong in this country. The government has every right to deport him. BUT the one place he cannot be sent, by order of a US federal court, is home to El Salvador.

Court orders must be appealed or obeyed...and there is no appealing from the Supreme Court directive to facilitate his return. The government can then deport him to any willing nation on the planet, save El Salvador.
Alternately, they can hold him in US custody while they appeal the order which prevents him being sent home. It won't be hard to find another nation to take him, offer some 3rd world country a favor and they'll happily comply.

The rule of law protects us all, and there is a right way to do things within our system. Every time you cheer something lawless the Trump administration does because you like that particular action, remember that someday we'll hold the levers of power again. Respect the guardrails NOW because you definitely want them to still be in place THEN.

The guardrails were destroyed when our country was flooded with illegal criminals

Preaching about this shite now.

You arent serious people.

Try a repeat of the last 4 years and you can count on war.

(04-17-2025 08:48 PM)maximus Wrote:  BTW

You piece of ****.

You keep comparing the eradication of these foreign bastards to the holocaust purposefully.

You'll find out you POS



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Sounds like you are comparing it to the holocaust as well.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

(04-17-2025 09:00 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 08:48 PM)maximus Wrote:  BTW

You piece of ****.

You keep comparing the eradication of these foreign bastards to the holocaust purposefully.

You'll find out you POS



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Sounds like you are comparing it to the holocaust as well.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

You should be banned for this obscenity.
Intellectually perverse and shameful.

I pity you. Honestly. Seek help. Your mind is fricked.

All of this illegal immigration brought about by executive order SHOULD be reversible by the same process. The problem is that Biden let illegals flood into the country in waves, and now the same clowns demand the country to handle each illegal border crossing as an event that deserves due process (and where is due process actually defined in the Constitution?). With 20 million folks, we simply cannot handle each case with anything more than "you illegally crossed the border, so time to go home." Otherwise, it would take 30+ years to resolve this flooding of migrants into the country. And for the record, Venezuela opening up its prisons to release the TdA losers to leave and set up shop in the US, to me, is an act of war.

(04-17-2025 09:04 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  All of this illegal immigration brought about by executive order SHOULD be reversible by the same process. The problem is that Biden let illegals flood into the country in waves, and now the same clowns demand the country to handle each illegal border crossing as an event that deserves due process (and where is due process actually defined in the Constitution?). With 20 million folks, we simply cannot handle each case with anything more than "you illegally crossed the border, so time to go home." Otherwise, it would take 30+ years to resolve this flooding of migrants into the country. And for the record, Venezuela opening up its prisons to release the TdA losers to leave and set up shop in the US, to me, is an act of war.

Did you try actually reading it?

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

(04-17-2025 07:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

But the Biden administration who broke the law thousands and thousands of times of day was ok with you? They literally oversaw the world’s largest human smuggling operation in the history of the world. And helped cartels find a new line of business that has endangered hundreds of thousands of more lives. The number of people killed, raped, or had every penny they owned extorted from them is unbearable for me to even think about. You can’t be serious!

The Biden approach to the border was horrendous.

And I (and many others) have zero problem with a far stronger border policy, *and* having a far more active deportation regime for illegal aliens.

When it gets to denying due process in full, that is way beyond the line.

And no, your giant whadabout excuse simply is..... a giant whadabout that attempts to retionalize and normalize the Trump excess.

Sorry, there is no fing 'war' with Venezuela that allows deportation of Venezuelans with no due process -- which is precisely what happened with what appears two planeloads last week. I will grant you if there was a war with Venezuela, the Trump actions under the EAA would have been proper and legal. There isnt. And its not.

it looks like Abrego got caught up in the party that the Trump regime kicked off last week with the EAA. In his case, its a triple problem. In addition to the double problem of a blatant thin ass lie to rationalize insta-depoortations, and the insta-deportations under the EAA occurring with a lack of due process, Abrego has the added problem that he had a pre-existing hold, from a competent previous hearing, barring the actions that happened. That is, he had the results of his previous application of due process washed away automatically. Kind of fing grotesque.

Again -- do it correctly. If the detainees were processed in accordance with the standards of due process, thats great. From the record provided in Boasberg's court, that may not have happened.

From the record in Xinis's court, its pretty obvious that Abrego wasnt afforded *any* due process when his 'do not deport' order was violated from what appears to be on a whim.

Look, this isnt a defense of the Biden border policy. Its stupid to use that as the grand whadabout to justify and rationalize executive overreach and what appears to be a pretty stark violation of due process.

I guess the Republican stance should now be 'Fk due process, its not so great.'

And no, being a champion of due process should not be solely a liberal thing. Infortunately that seems to be the trajectory.

The Aliens Enemy Act doesn’t require an actual declaration of war. Just because it was previously used during war and that war is one of the predicates doesn’t mean war is the only use case. One of the use cases is predatory incursion. Ok, what is predatory incursion?

A "predatory incursion" refers to a form of attack or invasion, typically associated with military or political actions, that involves the aggressive and often harmful entry of one party into the territory or affairs of another. It's often used in contexts where an alien entity is deemed a threat, like a foreign government or a criminal gang.

This is the context for the Trump adminstration’s use of the Act. The administration has determined that the Maduro regime intentionally emptied its prisons full of TdA members (a criminal gang and now an FTO) with the explicit intent of sowing chaos in the United States. You can take umbrage with that if you want but a) you don’t have access to the classified intelligence used to make that determination and b) it’s no different than Obama declaring ISIS fair game under the Authorization for Use of Military Force that was granted only for the war against al-Qa’ida. The executive branch in both cases determined that it was necessary and applicable to use these authorities to address a threat to the United States and American way of life. But you won’t here this from media that’s become nothing but a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party.

(04-17-2025 09:03 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 09:00 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 08:48 PM)maximus Wrote:  BTW

You piece of ****.

You keep comparing the eradication of these foreign bastards to the holocaust purposefully.

You'll find out you POS



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Sounds like you are comparing it to the holocaust as well.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

You should be banned for this obscenity.
Intellectually perverse and shameful.

I pity you. Honestly. Seek help. Your mind is fricked.

Pretty worthless POS knowing he is posting stupid **** to someone who has already said they lost many relatives in the holocaust.

A1 piece of **** I wouldn't piss on if he was on fire

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(04-17-2025 09:07 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 09:04 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  All of this illegal immigration brought about by executive order SHOULD be reversible by the same process. The problem is that Biden let illegals flood into the country in waves, and now the same clowns demand the country to handle each illegal border crossing as an event that deserves due process (and where is due process actually defined in the Constitution?). With 20 million folks, we simply cannot handle each case with anything more than "you illegally crossed the border, so time to go home." Otherwise, it would take 30+ years to resolve this flooding of migrants into the country. And for the record, Venezuela opening up its prisons to release the TdA losers to leave and set up shop in the US, to me, is an act of war.

Did you try actually reading it?

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Stfu and try and comprehend what he posted dummy



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(04-17-2025 09:21 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 09:07 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 09:04 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  All of this illegal immigration brought about by executive order SHOULD be reversible by the same process. The problem is that Biden let illegals flood into the country in waves, and now the same clowns demand the country to handle each illegal border crossing as an event that deserves due process (and where is due process actually defined in the Constitution?). With 20 million folks, we simply cannot handle each case with anything more than "you illegally crossed the border, so time to go home." Otherwise, it would take 30+ years to resolve this flooding of migrants into the country. And for the record, Venezuela opening up its prisons to release the TdA losers to leave and set up shop in the US, to me, is an act of war.

Did you try actually reading it?

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Stfu and try and comprehend what he posted dummy

Sure, why doesn't everyone just have namecalling fits and don't DARE answer a question about the Constitution with a Constitutional quote. What a role model you are!

(04-17-2025 09:09 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 07:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

But the Biden administration who broke the law thousands and thousands of times of day was ok with you? They literally oversaw the world’s largest human smuggling operation in the history of the world. And helped cartels find a new line of business that has endangered hundreds of thousands of more lives. The number of people killed, raped, or had every penny they owned extorted from them is unbearable for me to even think about. You can’t be serious!

The Biden approach to the border was horrendous.

And I (and many others) have zero problem with a far stronger border policy, *and* having a far more active deportation regime for illegal aliens.

When it gets to denying due process in full, that is way beyond the line.

And no, your giant whadabout excuse simply is..... a giant whadabout that attempts to retionalize and normalize the Trump excess.

Sorry, there is no fing 'war' with Venezuela that allows deportation of Venezuelans with no due process -- which is precisely what happened with what appears two planeloads last week. I will grant you if there was a war with Venezuela, the Trump actions under the EAA would have been proper and legal. There isnt. And its not.

it looks like Abrego got caught up in the party that the Trump regime kicked off last week with the EAA. In his case, its a triple problem. In addition to the double problem of a blatant thin ass lie to rationalize insta-depoortations, and the insta-deportations under the EAA occurring with a lack of due process, Abrego has the added problem that he had a pre-existing hold, from a competent previous hearing, barring the actions that happened. That is, he had the results of his previous application of due process washed away automatically. Kind of fing grotesque.

Again -- do it correctly. If the detainees were processed in accordance with the standards of due process, thats great. From the record provided in Boasberg's court, that may not have happened.

From the record in Xinis's court, its pretty obvious that Abrego wasnt afforded *any* due process when his 'do not deport' order was violated from what appears to be on a whim.

Look, this isnt a defense of the Biden border policy. Its stupid to use that as the grand whadabout to justify and rationalize executive overreach and what appears to be a pretty stark violation of due process.

I guess the Republican stance should now be 'Fk due process, its not so great.'

And no, being a champion of due process should not be solely a liberal thing. Infortunately that seems to be the trajectory.

The Aliens Enemy Act doesn’t require an actual declaration of war. Just because it was previously used during war and that war is one of the predicates doesn’t mean war is the only use case. One of the use cases is predatory incursion. Ok, what is predatory incursion?

A "predatory incursion" refers to a form of attack or invasion, typically associated with military or political actions, that involves the aggressive and often harmful entry of one party into the territory or affairs of another. It's often used in contexts where an alien entity is deemed a threat, like a foreign government or a criminal gang.

This is the context for the Trump adminstration’s use of the Act. The administration has determined that the Maduro regime intentionally emptied its prisons full of TdA members (a criminal gang and now an FTO) with the explicit intent of sowing chaos in the United States. You can take umbrage with that if you want but a) you don’t have access to the classified intelligence used to make that determination and b) it’s no different than Obama declaring ISIS fair game under the Authorization for Use of Military Force that was granted only for the war against al-Qa’ida. The executive branch in both cases determined that it was necessary and applicable to use these authorities to address a threat to the United States and American way of life. But you won’t here this from media that’s become nothing but a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party.

These clowns could have their mother, wives, or trans kids mutilated by any one of the 20 million and they would still sit in the corner with a box of tissues defending them while simultaneously enjoying their pud whacking.

They are degenerate pieces of **** who deserve what's coming. Soon enough is an understatement



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(04-17-2025 09:25 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 09:21 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 09:07 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 09:04 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  All of this illegal immigration brought about by executive order SHOULD be reversible by the same process. The problem is that Biden let illegals flood into the country in waves, and now the same clowns demand the country to handle each illegal border crossing as an event that deserves due process (and where is due process actually defined in the Constitution?). With 20 million folks, we simply cannot handle each case with anything more than "you illegally crossed the border, so time to go home." Otherwise, it would take 30+ years to resolve this flooding of migrants into the country. And for the record, Venezuela opening up its prisons to release the TdA losers to leave and set up shop in the US, to me, is an act of war.

Did you try actually reading it?

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Stfu and try and comprehend what he posted dummy

Sure, why doesn't everyone just have namecalling fits and don't DARE answer a question about the Constitution with a Constitutional quote. What a role model you are!

Hey full retard. Read your last paragraph again and see if you can figure out why you're an idiot.

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(04-17-2025 09:27 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 09:25 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 09:21 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 09:07 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 09:04 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  All of this illegal immigration brought about by executive order SHOULD be reversible by the same process. The problem is that Biden let illegals flood into the country in waves, and now the same clowns demand the country to handle each illegal border crossing as an event that deserves due process (and where is due process actually defined in the Constitution?). With 20 million folks, we simply cannot handle each case with anything more than "you illegally crossed the border, so time to go home." Otherwise, it would take 30+ years to resolve this flooding of migrants into the country. And for the record, Venezuela opening up its prisons to release the TdA losers to leave and set up shop in the US, to me, is an act of war.

Did you try actually reading it?

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Stfu and try and comprehend what he posted dummy

Sure, why doesn't everyone just have namecalling fits and don't DARE answer a question about the Constitution with a Constitutional quote. What a role model you are!

Hey full retard. Read your last paragraph again and see if you can figure out why you're an idiot.

Do you actually comprehend this topic to the extent necessary to offer an opinion on it, or are you just here to namecall and exhort anyone who disagrees with you to a higher level of thinking?

"Stfu and try and comprehend what he posted dummy"
"Hey full retard. Read your last paragraph again and see if you can figure out why you're an idiot."

I'm sure Elvis and I will both stay busy wracking our tiny liberal brains trying to figure out where we went so terribly wrong.