(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

except that didnt happen in this case.

1. He had already been established by two courts that he was a member of MS-13, a group who falls under the aliens enemies act.

2. He had already been found to be an illegal, so his detention in Texas was not a habeus violation.

Once you have #1, the supreme court says #2 is all the due process they get. And he got it. Any other court orders at that time become irrelevant.

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

The **** you talking about elvi

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(04-17-2025 05:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

except that didnt happen in this case.

1. He had already been established by two courts that he was a member of MS-13, a group who falls under the aliens enemies act.

2. He had already been found to be an illegal, so his detention in Texas was not a habeus violation.

Once you have #1, the supreme court says #2 is all the due process they get. And he got it. Any other court orders at that time become irrelevant.

No but if they could do that to Trump, and they tried, they would be orgasmic.

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Liberty matters now?

Yall are pathetic

All this kerfuffle, and Abrego Garcia is still in CECOT.

And we found somebody who knows a lot more than Tanq about immigration laws and process.

Womp womp.

(04-17-2025 05:09 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

The **** you talking about elvi

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That is a quote from the US court of appeals, 4th circuit. It’s not what I’m talking about, it’s what a three judge appeals panel said when denying the DOJ appeal.

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

Where were you when Biden let in about 20 million illegals with no process at all? You can't have it both ways.

(04-17-2025 05:21 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:09 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

The **** you talking about elvi

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That is a quote from the US court of appeals, 4th circuit. It’s not what I’m talking about, it’s what a three judge appeals panel said when denying the DOJ appeal.

Well I wholeheartedly disagree with the retards that this person is a "resident"

Of course they couldn't bring themselves to properly categorize this dope

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(04-17-2025 05:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

Where were you when Biden let in about 20 million illegals with no process at all? You can't have it both ways.

Suckin the chode

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(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

We agreee. Should have just put a bullet in kilmars brain

That your due process for invading terrorist filth.

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

But the Biden administration who broke the law thousands and thousands of times of day was ok with you? They literally oversaw the world’s largest human smuggling operation in the history of the world. And helped cartels find a new line of business that has endangered hundreds of thousands of more lives. The number of people killed, raped, or had every penny they owned extorted from them is unbearable for me to even think about. You can’t be serious!

(04-17-2025 05:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

But the Biden administration who broke the law thousands and thousands of times of day was ok with you? They literally oversaw the world’s largest human smuggling operation in the history of the world. And helped cartels find a new line of business that has endangered hundreds of thousands of more lives. The number of people killed, raped, or had every penny they owned extorted from them is unbearable for me to even think about. You can’t be serious!

He doesn't give a **** because he gets to suck off little kids randomly at will

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Womp womp

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(04-17-2025 05:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 05:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-17-2025 04:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  “ It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

Dont break the law. Youll have liberty.

Covidtards lecturing about liberty

Gfy

Yes, the Trump admin should stop breaking the law and denying people the liberty afforded by the constitution. Thanks for agreeing for once.

But the Biden administration who broke the law thousands and thousands of times of day was ok with you? They literally oversaw the world’s largest human smuggling operation in the history of the world. And helped cartels find a new line of business that has endangered hundreds of thousands of more lives. The number of people killed, raped, or had every penny they owned extorted from them is unbearable for me to even think about. You can’t be serious!

Believe me, he's serious. They like to treat the USA as one big truck stop.

Hey Three, we really appreciate your contributions to this forum. Hope you find it tolerable enough to stay.

BREAKING: Appeals Court Denies Trump Admin Effort to Block Return of Alleged MS-13 Gang Member Kilmar Abrego Garcia

Quote:A federal appeals court on Thursday denied the Trump Administration’s request for an emergency stay pending appeal and for a writ of mandamus.

The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals denied the Trump DOJ’s effort to block Judge Xinis’ order requiring the US government to “facilitate” the return of alleged MS-13 gang member Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

A three-judge panel: Harvie Wilkinson (Reagan), Robert King (Clinton), and Stephanie Thacker (Obama) issued the order.

Judge Wilkinson, the Reagan appointee, repeatedly referred to Abrego Garcia as a “resident” even though he’s an illegal alien.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an El Salvadorian national who was illegally residing in Maryland. In 2019, an immigration judge ordered Abrego Garcia, an alleged member of the dangerous MS-13 gang, removed from the US.

Abrego Garcia is currently being held at El Salvador’s notorious CECOT prison.

“It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done,” Wilkinson wrote in a 7-page order reviewed by The Gateway Pundit.

“This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear,” Wilkinson added.

“The Supreme Court’s decision does not, however, allow the government to do essentially nothing. It requires the government “to ‘facilitate’ Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador,”” the order stated.

Newly released court documents also show that Abrego Garcia repeatedly beat his wife.

The DOJ earlier this week said during a court hearing that if Abrego Garcia arrived at a US port of entry, he would be taken into custody and sent back to El Salvador.

Look it's the loons on this board

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Muh due process...

Muh Asylum

A kid was sent back.... this tard of a gang banging woman beating POS can make it

Adios Muchachos

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