HeartOfDixie
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
If that happened then it would be the P4.
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john01992
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 11:34 AM)IceJus10 Wrote: Just curious, but what facilities at UConn are bad?
1. their FB stadium being 22 miles being off campus
2. their FB stadium being only 40k
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
UConn's facilities are among the best in FBS. The training centers for BB and FB are top-notch.
There is nothing second class about UConn's athletics, academics, or facilities ... except for the current play of the FB team.
I wish people would do a little research before posting.
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Wilkie01
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 11:48 AM)john01992 Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:34 AM)IceJus10 Wrote: Just curious, but what facilities at UConn are bad?
1. their FB stadium being 22 miles being off campus
2. their FB stadium being only 40k
So that is just a 1/2 hour drive, whoopee!
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11-11-2013 11:51 AM |
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 11:48 AM)john01992 Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:34 AM)IceJus10 Wrote: Just curious, but what facilities at UConn are bad?
1. their FB stadium being 22 miles being off campus
2. their FB stadium being only 40k
What the hell is your problem? The off-campus stadium is only an issue for you. UConn's students, alumni, and fans have no problem with it. But you bring it up two or three times per week.
Maybe you should just avoid posting about UConn and post about something you know.
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11-11-2013 11:51 AM |
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john01992
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 11:51 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:48 AM)john01992 Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:34 AM)IceJus10 Wrote: Just curious, but what facilities at UConn are bad?
1. their FB stadium being 22 miles being off campus
2. their FB stadium being only 40k
So that is just a 1/2 hour drive, whoopee!
its just very unusual for FBS and im sure it gets brought up when they look at uconns facilities
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11-11-2013 11:55 AM |
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john01992
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(11-11-2013 11:51 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:48 AM)john01992 Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:34 AM)IceJus10 Wrote: Just curious, but what facilities at UConn are bad?
1. their FB stadium being 22 miles being off campus
2. their FB stadium being only 40k
What the hell is your problem? The off-campus stadium is only an issue for you. UConn's students, alumni, and fans have no problem with it. But you bring it up two or three times per week.
Maybe you should just avoid posting about UConn and post about something you know.
yeah and the 40k capacity isnt an issue either?
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 11:55 AM)john01992 Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:51 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:48 AM)john01992 Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:34 AM)IceJus10 Wrote: Just curious, but what facilities at UConn are bad?
1. their FB stadium being 22 miles being off campus
2. their FB stadium being only 40k
What the hell is your problem? The off-campus stadium is only an issue for you. UConn's students, alumni, and fans have no problem with it. But you bring it up two or three times per week.
Maybe you should just avoid posting about UConn and post about something you know.
yeah and the 40k capacity isnt an issue either?
That could be changed almost immediately if we get invited to the P5. We'd be at 50-55k with no problem whatsoever.
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 11:45 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Ok, I will play :
Big 10 adds Kansas and Virginia to reach 16.
PAC 12 adds Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to reach 16.
SEC adds West Virginia and Kansas State to reach 16.
ACC adds Connecticut, Cincinnati and Navy (football only) to reach 16.
The Big 12 three (3) left overs are Iowa State, TCU and Baylor. The American nine (9) left overs are Temple, East Carolina, Memphis, South Florida, Central Florida, Tulane, SMU, Houston and Tulsa. I suspect the American absorbs Iowa State, TCU and Baylor. Then raids the MWC for San Diego State, Fresno, Boise and Colorado State, also. American 16 will look like this:
1) Temple
2) East Carolina
3) Memphis
4) Central Florida
5) South Florida
6)Tulane
7) Iowa State
8) Tulsa
9) TCU
10) Baylor
11) SMU
12) Houston
13) Colorado State
14) Boise State
15) Fresno State
16) San Diego State
Now the American has become the 5th Power Conference , while the Big 12 has been dissolved.
The only un answered question is do the Sun Belt, CUSA, MAC and the MWC go to 16 teams, if they do which one of these 4 dies?
No BYU?
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 10:18 AM)john01992 Wrote: personally, i think 14 is the magic number not 16. i think OU/TX to the pac12 is the ultimate end result.
the remaining b8 schools have some options
1. stay at 8 and form a best of the rest power conference
2. get to 14 by poaching the best FB schools from the mwc, aac or add a combination of both
3. try to rebuild into a future power conference. the best schools to do that IMO. CSU, new mexico, BYU, usf, ucf, cincy
Texas and Oklahoma don't leave without Texas Tech and Oklahoma State.
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HeartOfDixie
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
Texas will ditch Tech in a heartbeat.
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11-11-2013 01:37 PM |
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 01:37 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Texas will ditch Tech in a heartbeat.
Keep dreaming. It has been reported numerous times that Texas will not leave Tech.
If Texas wanted to get rid of Tech, they would have already done it like they did to SMU, Rice and Houston. They haven't but don't let your ignorance get in the way of facts.
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11-11-2013 01:46 PM |
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HeartOfDixie
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 01:46 PM)jml2010 Wrote: (11-11-2013 01:37 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Texas will ditch Tech in a heartbeat.
Keep dreaming. It has been reported numerous times that Texas will not leave Tech.
If Texas wanted to get rid of Tech, they would have already done it like they did to SMU, Rice and Houston. They haven't but don't let your ignorance get in the way of facts.
If Texas has to make a choice between the Pac12 and Tech you honestly think they'd hold on to a substandard program like Tech?
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11-11-2013 01:48 PM |
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
Never been there but from TV, UConns Stadium looks very good. Shouldn't be any problem only 22 miles away. Hell the Patriots play about 70 miles from Boston. No problems there.
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11-11-2013 01:53 PM |
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 01:48 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: (11-11-2013 01:46 PM)jml2010 Wrote: (11-11-2013 01:37 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Texas will ditch Tech in a heartbeat.
Keep dreaming. It has been reported numerous times that Texas will not leave Tech.
If Texas wanted to get rid of Tech, they would have already done it like they did to SMU, Rice and Houston. They haven't but don't let your ignorance get in the way of facts.
If Texas has to make a choice between the Pac12 and Tech you honestly think they'd hold on to a substandard program like Tech?
I'm with you, especially if A&M continues its success in the SEC. No way politicians will allow Tech to drag the Longhorns down to second in its own state. If the choice is made for Texas to move West I do not see Tech having the political pull to derail the move this time.
Of course the easier option would always be to bring them with them if the Pac was willing to bring Tech in to get UT.
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
Any future realignment most likely will occur within the following 3 major conferences: B1G, Big 12, Pac 12. The school that will trigger this will be Texas. If Texas doesn't move, we stay put until the GORs start to run out.
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 11:45 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Ok, I will play :
Big 10 adds Kansas and Virginia to reach 16.
PAC 12 adds Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to reach 16.
SEC adds West Virginia and Kansas State to reach 16.
ACC adds Connecticut, Cincinnati and Navy (football only) to reach 16.
The Big 12 three (3) left overs are Iowa State, TCU and Baylor. The American nine (9) left overs are Temple, East Carolina, Memphis, South Florida, Central Florida, Tulane, SMU, Houston and Tulsa. I suspect the American absorbs Iowa State, TCU and Baylor. Then raids the MWC for San Diego State, Fresno, Boise and Colorado State, also. American 16 will look like this:
1) Temple
2) East Carolina
3) Memphis
4) Central Florida
5) South Florida
6)Tulane
7) Iowa State
8) Tulsa
9) TCU
10) Baylor
11) SMU
12) Houston
13) Colorado State
14) Boise State
15) Fresno State
16) San Diego State
Now the American has become the 5th Power Conference , while the Big 12 has been dissolved.
The only un answered question is do the Sun Belt, CUSA, MAC and the MWC go to 16 teams, if they do which one of these 4 dies?
The ACC has 15 teams, if three teams are added that makes 18. Why would the ACC add UConn and Cincy instead of just adding Navy as a football only match to ND?
Remember, anytime you talk about adding UConn, BC is a vote against them and FSU and Clemson do not want them for football purposes. It only takes 4 votes to get blackballed. Also the ACC doesn't add a market with UConn - BC, Syracuse, ND, and Duke interest overlaps the UConn media market, and Louisville and ND and especially Kentucky and Ohio State overlap into the Cincy market.
I've indicated before the ACC is more likely to add Iowa State than UConn - well there is a reason for that - Iowa State adds marketfoot print. The only expansion inside the current ACC footprint that could get 12 votes are Penn State, Florida, Georgia, and Navy, if by adding Navy ND played at least 8 conference football games.
(This post was last modified: 11-11-2013 02:39 PM by lumberpack4.)
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
re: Uconn stadium location. I don't see that as an issue. 85-90% of fans (I'm guessing) don't live on or near campus. I'd bet every one of them travels more than 30 minutes to get to a game.
From what I've read (and it is way too much), Texas and Oklahoma to the PAC, B1G or SEC seems unlikely.
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 02:37 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:45 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Ok, I will play :
Big 10 adds Kansas and Virginia to reach 16.
PAC 12 adds Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to reach 16.
SEC adds West Virginia and Kansas State to reach 16.
ACC adds Connecticut, Cincinnati and Navy (football only) to reach 16.
The Big 12 three (3) left overs are Iowa State, TCU and Baylor. The American nine (9) left overs are Temple, East Carolina, Memphis, South Florida, Central Florida, Tulane, SMU, Houston and Tulsa. I suspect the American absorbs Iowa State, TCU and Baylor. Then raids the MWC for San Diego State, Fresno, Boise and Colorado State, also. American 16 will look like this:
1) Temple
2) East Carolina
3) Memphis
4) Central Florida
5) South Florida
6)Tulane
7) Iowa State
8) Tulsa
9) TCU
10) Baylor
11) SMU
12) Houston
13) Colorado State
14) Boise State
15) Fresno State
16) San Diego State
Now the American has become the 5th Power Conference , while the Big 12 has been dissolved.
The only un answered question is do the Sun Belt, CUSA, MAC and the MWC go to 16 teams, if they do which one of these 4 dies?
The ACC has 15 teams, if three teams are added that makes 18. Why would the ACC add UConn and Cincy instead of just adding Navy as a football only match to ND?
Remember, anytime you talk about adding UConn, BC is a vote against them and FSU and Clemson do not want them for football purposes. It only takes 4 votes to get blackballed. Also the ACC doesn't add a market with UConn - BC, Syracuse, ND, and Duke interest overlaps the UConn media market, and Louisville and ND and especially Kentucky and Ohio State overlap into the Cincy market.
I've indicated before the ACC is more likely to add Iowa State than UConn - well there is a reason for that - Iowa State adds marketfoot print. The only expansion inside the current ACC footprint that could get 12 votes are Penn State, Florida, Georgia, and Navy, if by adding Navy ND played at least 8 conference football games.
You keep saying there is media overlap with adding UConn and ignore the fact that according to the 2013-2014 rankings Hartford's DMA 30th largest DMA in the nation.
The ACC also has a giant hole surrounding NYC, with Boston College being the closest team to it. A UConn addition gets the ACC fans directly in the NYC DMA with UConn's Fairfield County fans. What good is having "overlapping" Duke, Cuse, ND and BC (i strongly question this one) in NYC if the closest those fans have to see there team play on a regular basis is actually Boston.
With that being said, the ACC still will never invite UConn, but your reasoning has some flaws.
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RE: Future Conference Realignment
(11-11-2013 10:18 AM)john01992 Wrote: personally, i think 14 is the magic number not 16. i think OU/TX to the pac12 is the ultimate end result.
the remaining b8 schools have some options
1. stay at 8 and form a best of the rest power conference
2. get to 14 by poaching the best FB schools from the mwc, aac or add a combination of both
3. try to rebuild into a future power conference. the best schools to do that IMO. CSU, new mexico, BYU, usf, ucf, cincy
I know I am a homer but come on if the B12 loses OU and UT after losing A&M do you really think they won't look at us? Do you honestly think they are just going to give up on southeast Texas.
Yes yes Baylor, Tech, and TCU carry alot of weight in the state but losing both UT and A&M is sending up the white flag on southeast Texas to the SEC without at least considering us.
New Mexico? Colorado State? Yes basketball is important but unless you are a Memphis level program it won't get you in. I could see them looking at Memphis before both of those schools. All this mess has and always will be about football.
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