(07-25-2013 02:00 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 01:52 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 08:32 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 07:56 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 07:47 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  JeffCo?

The alternet article started out w/ a ficticious premise, and went from there. It's nonsense, but w/ simple words so that imbizzle could understand it.

Here's another perspective

http://www.nationalreview.com/node/352546/print

The article addresses both of your points. This is a quote from Thompson's book, which is mostly garbage, but the line “The South has operated like a competing nation in cannibalizing and degrading Michigan and the American auto industry.” is so true. Northerners are tired of paying higher taxes to support their free-loading cousins.

Thats just bull**** and you know it.

http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfounda...-large.jpg

Yeah but it was determined by the board genius that it is not accurate(or any chart or graph showing anything posted by anyone except a rightwinger and/or himself-those are always accurate).

Liberalism is bringing this country down.

(07-25-2013 02:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:00 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 01:52 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 08:32 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 07:56 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  The article addresses both of your points. This is a quote from Thompson's book, which is mostly garbage, but the line “The South has operated like a competing nation in cannibalizing and degrading Michigan and the American auto industry.” is so true. Northerners are tired of paying higher taxes to support their free-loading cousins.

Thats just bull**** and you know it.

http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfounda...-large.jpg

Yeah but it was determined by the board genius that it is not accurate(or any chart or graph showing anything posted by anyone except a rightwinger and/or himself-those are always accurate).

Liberalism is bringing this country down.

No. Rightwing stupidity is bringing this country down.

(07-25-2013 01:52 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 08:32 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 07:56 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 07:47 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 07:43 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

Let me know when a southern city the size of Detroit goes bankrupt.

JeffCo?

The alternet article started out w/ a ficticious premise, and went from there. It's nonsense, but w/ simple words so that imbizzle could understand it.

Here's another perspective

http://www.nationalreview.com/node/352546/print

The article addresses both of your points. This is a quote from Thompson's book, which is mostly garbage, but the line “The South has operated like a competing nation in cannibalizing and degrading Michigan and the American auto industry.” is so true. Northerners are tired of paying higher taxes to support their free-loading cousins.

Thats just bull**** and you know it.

http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfounda...-large.jpg

Oh please genius, explain this to us.

Ah, the irony. Sometimes these morons actually DO swerve into something with a grain of truth to it, but they refuse to make that weee last step to actually make it relevant.

Quote:“An influential percentage of poor, uneducated, underserved, insurance-less white southerners continue to cast votes for candidates whose agendas clearly conflict with their own self interest.” What Thompson doesn’t do—what I’ve never seen anyone do—is offer a valid explanation for why white Southerners ally themselves with the party that treats them contemptuously.

This posits what could be a mildly interesting discussion, only with tweak or two. First, what would define an"influential percentage"? Would, say, 93% qualify? Now, what voting block voted one way or another in those numbers? What community has suffered FAR worse than any other under the very regime they clamored for, to the tune of 93%? Only one and it's not poor, uneducated, underserved white folk.

Unemployment remains stuck at the horribly high 7.6%. Not good, I don't think anyone would deny that. However, in the black community, that voted to the tune of 93% for this band of merry pranksters? Unemployment is nearly 15%. Who's underserved? Why do they vote against their own self or best interests?

Worried about crime in urban areas? How about black youth unemployment nearing 50%! Yes, that's one out of every two that's even lookingfor work. Forget those that have quit or never bothered to begin with. So who's going to remain "poor"? Why would they vote in such large percentages against their own self interests?

I could go on and on, but this makes the point. And it's not simply because zerO is half black himself. They generally vote for the dim's and their mind numbing, spirit crushing "social(ist)" policies no matter what the pigment of the candidates skin. Time and again they vote against their best interests, and who's to remain uneducated? You seen the inner city schools lately?

The author, or original author, was right on the cusp of actually finding something good, but couldn't bring himself to ask the next logical question. So as it turns out, the article is useless garbage. But that shouldn't surprise anyone.

The South is just a little bit behind the rest of the nation in cultural relations between the minorities but it's understandable because racism was more rampant in that area for centuries.

If the institution of slavery existed in that area for two hundred years then I expect it to take another two hundred for everyone to get over it and move on.

(07-25-2013 02:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:00 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 01:52 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 08:32 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Thats just bull**** and you know it.

http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfounda...-large.jpg

Yeah but it was determined by the board genius that it is not accurate(or any chart or graph showing anything posted by anyone except a rightwinger and/or himself-those are always accurate).

Liberalism is bringing this country down.

No. Rightwing stupidity is bringing this country down.

Nice retort, nerd...

"NUH UH! YOU ARE!"

(07-25-2013 02:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The South is just a little bit behind the rest of the nation in cultural relations between the minorities but it's understandable because racism was more rampant in that area for centuries.

If the institution of slavery existed in that area for two hundred years then I expect it to take another two hundred for everyone to get over it and move on.

So, another sixty five years, and we're good? I'll mark my calendar.

(07-25-2013 02:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The South is just a little bit behind the rest of the nation in cultural relations between the minorities but it's understandable because racism was more rampant in that area for centuries.

If the institution of slavery existed in that area for two hundred years then I expect it to take another two hundred for everyone to get over it and move on.

You've been pretty decent recently... I would think that you'd know the only racism in the south is by the blacks when they stereotype the whites...

Little does anyone from the civil rights community know that white people don't actually care to use racism... It's just a defensive move. We know where it exists, and who brings it, but we keep our mouths shut until we have enough of being called racist.

It has nothing to do with walking down the street and someone locking their doors or clenching their purses tighter, or someone following blacks around in a dept store... They don't even shop at a white person's dept store.

(07-25-2013 02:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The South is just a little bit behind the rest of the nation in cultural relations between the minorities

Complete fiction.

Once again, the leftist mindset is incompatible with reality.

(07-25-2013 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:00 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 01:52 PM)john01992 Wrote:  http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfounda...-large.jpg

Yeah but it was determined by the board genius that it is not accurate(or any chart or graph showing anything posted by anyone except a rightwinger and/or himself-those are always accurate).

Liberalism is bringing this country down.

No. Rightwing stupidity is bringing this country down.

Nice retort, nerd...

"NUH UH! YOU ARE!"

I agree. That wasn't very good. I will try better next time.

(07-25-2013 02:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:00 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 01:52 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 08:32 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Thats just bull**** and you know it.

http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfounda...-large.jpg

Yeah but it was determined by the board genius that it is not accurate(or any chart or graph showing anything posted by anyone except a rightwinger and/or himself-those are always accurate).

Liberalism is bringing this country down.

No. Rightwing stupidity is bringing this country down.

Oh snap!

(07-25-2013 02:22 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The South is just a little bit behind the rest of the nation in cultural relations between the minorities but it's understandable because racism was more rampant in that area for centuries.

If the institution of slavery existed in that area for two hundred years then I expect it to take another two hundred for everyone to get over it and move on.

So, another sixty five years, and we're good? I'll mark my calendar.

Sounds about right.

(07-25-2013 02:22 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The South is just a little bit behind the rest of the nation in cultural relations between the minorities but it's understandable because racism was more rampant in that area for centuries.

If the institution of slavery existed in that area for two hundred years then I expect it to take another two hundred for everyone to get over it and move on.

You've been pretty decent recently... I would think that you'd know the only racism in the south is by the blacks when they stereotype the whites...

Little does anyone from the civil rights community know that white people don't actually care to use racism... It's just a defensive move. We know where it exists, and who brings it, but we keep our mouths shut until we have enough of being called racist.

It has nothing to do with walking down the street and someone locking their doors or clenching their purses tighter, or someone following blacks around in a dept store... They don't even shop at a white person's dept store.

I bet their "stereotype" fits you to a T.

(07-25-2013 02:24 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:00 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Yeah but it was determined by the board genius that it is not accurate(or any chart or graph showing anything posted by anyone except a rightwinger and/or himself-those are always accurate).

Liberalism is bringing this country down.

No. Rightwing stupidity is bringing this country down.

Nice retort, nerd...

"NUH UH! YOU ARE!"

I agree. That wasn't very good. I will try better next time.

Just don't be so unoriginal.

(07-25-2013 02:27 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:22 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The South is just a little bit behind the rest of the nation in cultural relations between the minorities but it's understandable because racism was more rampant in that area for centuries.

If the institution of slavery existed in that area for two hundred years then I expect it to take another two hundred for everyone to get over it and move on.

So, another sixty five years, and we're good? I'll mark my calendar.

Sounds about right.

So, I owe someone an apology for something someone else did to someone else.

(07-25-2013 02:29 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:22 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The South is just a little bit behind the rest of the nation in cultural relations between the minorities but it's understandable because racism was more rampant in that area for centuries.

If the institution of slavery existed in that area for two hundred years then I expect it to take another two hundred for everyone to get over it and move on.

You've been pretty decent recently... I would think that you'd know the only racism in the south is by the blacks when they stereotype the whites...

Little does anyone from the civil rights community know that white people don't actually care to use racism... It's just a defensive move. We know where it exists, and who brings it, but we keep our mouths shut until we have enough of being called racist.

It has nothing to do with walking down the street and someone locking their doors or clenching their purses tighter, or someone following blacks around in a dept store... They don't even shop at a white person's dept store.

I bet their "stereotype" fits you to a T.

Yeah I bet it does too... It fits us ALL to a T, unless they actually know you... The blacks here in the south mainly wear a chip on their shoulder due to sh*t we had no control over. With you having a mom and mom, I expect you to have such a fiesty attitude towards men though...

(07-25-2013 02:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:27 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:22 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The South is just a little bit behind the rest of the nation in cultural relations between the minorities but it's understandable because racism was more rampant in that area for centuries.

If the institution of slavery existed in that area for two hundred years then I expect it to take another two hundred for everyone to get over it and move on.

So, another sixty five years, and we're good? I'll mark my calendar.

Sounds about right.

So, I owe someone an apology for something someone else did to someone else.

Yes. To someone their parents parents parents didn't even know.

(07-25-2013 02:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:27 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:22 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-25-2013 02:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The South is just a little bit behind the rest of the nation in cultural relations between the minorities but it's understandable because racism was more rampant in that area for centuries.

If the institution of slavery existed in that area for two hundred years then I expect it to take another two hundred for everyone to get over it and move on.

So, another sixty five years, and we're good? I'll mark my calendar.

Sounds about right.

So, I owe someone an apology for something someone else did to someone else.

Of course not. You just need to keep treating people decent and eventually everyone will get over it.

Pointing the finger however and saying they are still racists only makes things worse.

I treat everyone I encounter with courtesy and respect, and have tried very hard to teach my children to do the same.

(07-25-2013 02:46 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I treat everyone I encounter with courtesy and respect, and have tried very hard to teach my children to do the same.

And you should be applauded for doing that. Only by doing exactly what you are doing are we ever going to get to a point where people will treat everyone with respect.

But it has to be for several generations before that happens.

I'm sad to admit that even my own mother still has a bit of racism in her blood.

She doesn't even realize it.