The deal is $10M for 2013-2014 for basketball only. Then it's $20M/yr after that for both football and basketball. This does not include the remaining $13M for 2013 football left on the existing contract.

(02-23-2013 04:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 04:06 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:48 PM)billings Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:41 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  As much as McMurphy is the ESPN one. But that doesn't seem to bother some.

agree. just different agendas

Interesting that Jersey guy said the BE will be 10 - 12 members. Does that indicate that a CCG is not a required part of the contract but rather optional?

Having a slant doesnt bother me in reporting--just as long as everyone knows the bias and the reporters dont try to claim they are unbiased observers printing the unvarnished truth.

Well there goes Fox News

lol...pretty much al news to be honest.

I'll concede that. Though I do enjoy NPR.

(02-23-2013 03:49 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  $130 million for 7 years = $18.6 million per year for botn football and basketball.

10 Team Conference per school: $ 1.86 million

12 Team Conference per school: $1.55 million

This how I read it.

McMurphy tweeted that this contract includes CCG.

(02-23-2013 03:49 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  $130 million for 7 years = $18.6 million per year for botn football and basketball.

10 Team Conference per school: $ 1.86 million

12 Team Conference per school: $1.55 million

This how I read it.

$130 million minus 10m for '13-'14 yr basketball is $120 million for six years or $20m per yr. Add $2 million from CBS equals $22 million per year.

10 team conference per school: $2.2 million

12 team conference per school: $1.83 million

That's how I read it.

(02-23-2013 04:38 PM)nastar36 Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:49 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  $130 million for 7 years = $18.6 million per year for botn football and basketball.

10 Team Conference per school: $ 1.86 million

12 Team Conference per school: $1.55 million

This how I read it.

$130 million minus 10m for '13-'14 yr basketball is $120 million for six years or $20m per yr. Add $2 million from CBS equals $22 million per year.

10 team conference per school: $2.2 million

12 team conference per school: $1.83 million

That's how I read it.

For 2014-15 and beyond, nastar is correct. Wilkie is wrong.

For 2013-14, assuming everyone stays for one last year, the Big East will make $12M for basketball ($10M from ESPN and $2M from CBS).

And the old $13.3M/year ESPN TV contract is still in place for football for 1 more year.

So all-sport Big East schools will make $2M in 2013-14 ($1.33 for football and $667K for hoops), and basketball schools will make $667K in 2013-14.

Total league TV revenue will drop from $45M in 2012-13 to $25.3M in 2013-14.

(02-23-2013 03:32 PM)MiddleTiger Wrote:  For all the folks whining and complianing about ESPN and midweek games, etc.
As one source at the Big East said on Saturday, “ESPN over matched the offer. The deal they offered in terms of exposure is better than the deal we have now in football. It was more than fair.”

http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5299

Here was the original football exposure deal on ESPN back in 2006 (not counting ESPN Gameplan or ESPN3):

17 games on ESPN, ESPN2 and ABC, including
4 ESPN Thursday games
1 ESPN Saturday prime time game
2 ESPN games on Sunday Night

+ 5 games on ESPNU

By last year, it had evolved into:

Saturday - 16 total
6 ABC
1 ESPN
3 ESPN2
6 ESPNU

Sunday - 1 total
1 ESPN

Thursday - 3 Total
3 ESPN

Friday - 6 Total
4 ESPN
2 ESPN2

26 Total
6 ABC (all Saturday)
9 ESPN (8 non-Saturday)
5 ESPN2 (2 on Friday, 3 on Saturday)
6 ESPNU (all Saturday)

Oh yeah I'm sure they "over matched"the offer.

Ok, I'm gonna put a lot of faith in Blaudfraud..the former writer who can barely write, his batting avg for accuracy is maybe .500 & he glowingly compared NBCSporst channel to ESPiN in '79...he & Aresco should sit a bar w/ Meatball & share BE horror stories...

(02-23-2013 04:10 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  The deal is $10M for 2013-2014 for basketball only. Then it's $20M/yr after that for both football and basketball. This does not include the remaining $13M for 2013 football left on the existing contract.

It's funny how people just skipped over this post. So it is 20 million for 6 years. I'm guessing it jumps to 23 million if we add a Championship game. Been seeing that number so much it has to come from Somewhere.

(02-23-2013 03:48 PM)billings Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:41 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:35 PM)billings Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:32 PM)MiddleTiger Wrote:  For all the folks whining and complianing about ESPN and midweek games, etc.
As one source at the Big East said on Saturday, “ESPN over matched the offer. The deal they offered in terms of exposure is better than the deal we have now in football. It was more than fair.”

http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5299

So NBC is really going to be hungry?

This guy really is a Aresco mouthpiece isn't he?

As much as McMurphy is the ESPN one. But that doesn't seem to bother some.

agree. just different agendas

Interesting that Jersey guy said the BE will be 10 - 12 members. Does that indicate that a CCG is not a required part of the contract but rather optional?

He said "between 10 - 12 teams for football and basketball." Currently the league has 10 for both with Navy scheduled to be added for football, leaving 10 for basketball and 11 for football. Assuming that a 12th is added, a s has been widely reported , the conference will have a CCG, but there will be only 10 or 11 members for basketball.

(02-23-2013 03:58 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:51 PM)billings Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:49 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  $130 million for 7 years = $18.6 million per year for botn football and basketball.

10 Team Conference per school: $ 1.86 million

12 Team Conference per school: $1.55 million

This how I read it.

Don't forget the extra 2 million from CBS for BB

That woul be $2 million per school in a 10 team conference. I would not go to 12 teams for less money. This is the 10 teams in my best estimate:

UConn
Temple
Cincinnati
Memphis
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
Tulane
SMU
Houston.

Those ten teams aren't worth ten cents to watch.

(02-23-2013 07:44 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:48 PM)billings Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:41 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:35 PM)billings Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:32 PM)MiddleTiger Wrote:  For all the folks whining and complianing about ESPN and midweek games, etc.
As one source at the Big East said on Saturday, “ESPN over matched the offer. The deal they offered in terms of exposure is better than the deal we have now in football. It was more than fair.”

http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5299

So NBC is really going to be hungry?

This guy really is a Aresco mouthpiece isn't he?

As much as McMurphy is the ESPN one. But that doesn't seem to bother some.

agree. just different agendas

Interesting that Jersey guy said the BE will be 10 - 12 members. Does that indicate that a CCG is not a required part of the contract but rather optional?

He said "between 10 - 12 teams for football and basketball." Currently the league has 10 for both with Navy scheduled to be added for football, leaving 10 for basketball and 11 for football. Assuming that a 12th is added, a s has been widely reported , the conference will have a CCG, but there will be only 10 or 11 members for basketball.

You think the BE will add a FB only member? I can't see that. I also think Navy never joins though as they would lose money joining

(02-23-2013 08:10 PM)billings Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 07:44 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:48 PM)billings Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:41 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:35 PM)billings Wrote:  So NBC is really going to be hungry?

This guy really is a Aresco mouthpiece isn't he?

As much as McMurphy is the ESPN one. But that doesn't seem to bother some.

agree. just different agendas

Interesting that Jersey guy said the BE will be 10 - 12 members. Does that indicate that a CCG is not a required part of the contract but rather optional?

He said "between 10 - 12 teams for football and basketball." Currently the league has 10 for both with Navy scheduled to be added for football, leaving 10 for basketball and 11 for football. Assuming that a 12th is added, a s has been widely reported , the conference will have a CCG, but there will be only 10 or 11 members for basketball.

You think the BE will add a FB only member? I can't see that. I also think Navy never joins though as they would lose money joining

What is their tv contract worth?

(02-23-2013 08:12 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 08:10 PM)billings Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 07:44 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:48 PM)billings Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 03:41 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  As much as McMurphy is the ESPN one. But that doesn't seem to bother some.

agree. just different agendas

Interesting that Jersey guy said the BE will be 10 - 12 members. Does that indicate that a CCG is not a required part of the contract but rather optional?

He said "between 10 - 12 teams for football and basketball." Currently the league has 10 for both with Navy scheduled to be added for football, leaving 10 for basketball and 11 for football. Assuming that a 12th is added, a s has been widely reported , the conference will have a CCG, but there will be only 10 or 11 members for basketball.

You think the BE will add a FB only member? I can't see that. I also think Navy never joins though as they would lose money joining

What is their tv contract worth?

Not sure. I know they get 5 million for the Army vs Navy game alone. They split the 5 million with Army, so Navy gets 2.5 million a year from just that one game. As a football only addition, the Big East will only pay about 1.2 million a year for them. They arent coming.

I would think the Big East would allow Navy to keep their contract for the army navy game without sharing the money for that game. Uness of course Army becomes a member of the conference as well. I would assume so long as the Big East will let them keep their army navy game payout they would still join. Gives them a much better opportunity and a variety of bowls plus makes scheduling much easier for them

(02-23-2013 08:22 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  I would think the Big East would allow Navy to keep their contract for the army navy game without sharing the money for that game. Uness of course Army becomes a member of the conference as well. I would assume so long as the Big East will let them keep their army navy game payout they would still join. Gives them a much better opportunity and a variety of bowls plus makes scheduling much easier for them

If the Big East was willing to that Boise would still be here. Navy was one of the loudest voices against that.

(02-23-2013 08:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 08:22 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  I would think the Big East would allow Navy to keep their contract for the army navy game without sharing the money for that game. Uness of course Army becomes a member of the conference as well. I would assume so long as the Big East will let them keep their army navy game payout they would still join. Gives them a much better opportunity and a variety of bowls plus makes scheduling much easier for them

If the Big East was willing to that Boise would still be here. Navy was one of the loudest voices against that.

Yeah but Boise wanted to do that with all their games. Navy vs Army is a tradition it's a totally different animal is bigger than just football. I would have no problem with allowing Navy to keep the revenue for the army navy game.

(02-23-2013 08:22 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  I would think the Big East would allow Navy to keep their contract for the army navy game without sharing the money for that game. Uness of course Army becomes a member of the conference as well. I would assume so long as the Big East will let them keep their army navy game payout they would still join. Gives them a much better opportunity and a variety of bowls plus makes scheduling much easier for them

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/...in-sports/

The Army-Navy game contract with CBS runs through 2018. This Forbes article from December expects CBS to pony up $10M/year to renew it, now that it has a specific date and an exclusive slot. This is definitely an obstacle that must be dealt with for Navy to join. Let's see how the details of the TV deal work out and how this part of the negotiation can be worked out before casting judgement as to whether Navy will join or not.

(02-23-2013 08:32 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 08:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 08:22 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  I would think the Big East would allow Navy to keep their contract for the army navy game without sharing the money for that game. Uness of course Army becomes a member of the conference as well. I would assume so long as the Big East will let them keep their army navy game payout they would still join. Gives them a much better opportunity and a variety of bowls plus makes scheduling much easier for them

If the Big East was willing to that Boise would still be here. Navy was one of the loudest voices against that.

Yeah but Boise wanted to do that with all their games. Navy vs Army is a tradition it's a totally different animal is bigger than just football. I would have no problem with allowing Navy to keep the revenue for the army navy game.

Even if we did that, for all we know, the rest of thier CBS deal might be worth 3 million dollars--for a total of 5.5 million a year. I simply think its very unlikely they are coming. I think we might see a scheduling agreement instead.

(02-23-2013 08:36 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 08:22 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  I would think the Big East would allow Navy to keep their contract for the army navy game without sharing the money for that game. Uness of course Army becomes a member of the conference as well. I would assume so long as the Big East will let them keep their army navy game payout they would still join. Gives them a much better opportunity and a variety of bowls plus makes scheduling much easier for them

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/...in-sports/

The Army-Navy game contract with CBS runs through 2018. This Forbes article from December expects CBS to pony up $10M/year to renew it, now that it has a specific date and an exclusive slot. This is definitely an obstacle that must be dealt with for Navy to join. Let's see how the details of the TV deal work out and how this part of the negotiation can be worked out before casting judgement as to whether Navy will join or not.

Based on that it seems pretty simple we'll have to let Navy keep its revenue from the army navy game for them to join the conference. It not I dout they join.