(03-27-2012 01:01 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote: I have no dog in the fight but having been born in California and from someone who follows west coast and southern football I think you guys would be making a HUGE mistake in taking AF over Fresno. Sure Air Force has a nice national following and can at least be a 6-6 team most years but Air Force is probably never going to play in a BCS bowl.
Really, just 6-6? Not sure I see any glaring differences here
Air Force Academy
1981 4–7 2–3 (WAC)
1982
8–5 4–3 (WAC) Hall of Fame vs. Vanderbilt, W, 36–28
1983
10–2 5–2 (WAC) Independence vs. Mississippi, W, 9–3
1984
8–4 4–3 (WAC) Independence vs. Virginia Tech, W, 23–7
1985
12–1 7–1 (WAC) Bluebonnet vs. Texas, W. 24–16
1986
6–5 5–2 (WAC)
1987
9–4 6–2 (WAC) Freedom vs. Arizona State, L, 28–33
1988
5–7 3–5 (WAC)
1989
8–4–1 5–1–1 (WAC) Liberty vs. Mississippi, L, 29–42
1990
7–5 3–4 (WAC) Liberty vs. Ohio State, W, 23–11
1991
10–3 6–2 (WAC) Liberty vs. Mississippi State, W, 38–15
1992
7–5 4–4 (WAC) Liberty vs. Mississippi, L, 0–13
1993
4–8 1–7 (WAC)
1994
8–4 6–2 (WAC)
1995
8–5 6–2 (WAC) Copper vs. Texas Tech, L, 41–55
1996
6–5 5–3 (WAC)
1997
10–3 6–2 (WAC) Las Vegas vs. Oregon, L, 13–41
1998
12–1 7–1 (WAC) O’ahu vs. Washington, W, 45–25
1999
6–5 2–5 (MWC)
2000
9–3 5–2 (MWC) Silicon Valley vs. Fresno State, W, 37–34
2001
6–6 3–4 (MWC)
2002
8–5 4–3 (MWC) San Francisco vs. Virginia Tech, L, 13–20
2003
7–5 3–4 (MWC)
2004
5–6 3–4 (MWC)
2005
4–7 3–5 (MWC)
2006
4–8 3–4 (MWC)
2007
9–4 6–2 (MWC) Armed Forces vs. California, L, 36–42
2008
8–5 5–3 (MWC) Armed Forces vs. Houston, L, 28–34
2009
8–5 5–3 (MWC) Armed Forces vs. Houston, W, 47–20
2010
9–4 5–3 (MWC) Independence Bowl vs. Georgia Tech, W, 14–7
2011
7–6 3–4 (MWC) Military Bowl vs. Toledo, L, 41-42
Fresno State
Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP
1980
Fresno State 5–6 1–4
1981
Fresno State 5–6 2–3
1982
Fresno State 11–1 6–0 1st W California
1983
Fresno State 6–5 2–4
1984
Fresno State 6–6 3–4
1985
Fresno State 11–0–1 7–0 1st W California
16
1986
Fresno State 9–2 6–1
1987
Fresno State 6–5 4–3
1988
Fresno State 10–2 7–0 1st W California
1989
Fresno State 11–1 7–0 1st W California
1990
Fresno State 8–2–1 5–5–1
1991
Fresno State 10–2 6–1 1st L California
Fresno State Bulldogs (Western Athletic Conference) (1992–1996)
1992
Fresno State 9–4 6–2 T–1st W Freedom
22 24
1993
Fresno State 8–4 6–2 T–1st L Aloha
1994
Fresno State 5–7–1 3–4–1 7th
1995
Fresno State 5–7 2–6 T–7th
1996
Fresno State 4–7 3–5 T–5th (Pacific)
1997
Fresno State 6–6 5–3 3rd (Pacific)
1998
Fresno State 5–6 5–3 T–3rd (Pacific)
1999
Fresno State 8–5 5–2 T–1st L Las Vegas
2000
Fresno State 7–5 6–2 3rd L Silicon Valley
2001
Fresno State 11–3 6–2 T–2nd L Silicon Valley
2002
Fresno State 9–5 6–2 3rd W Silicon Valley
2003
Fresno State 9–5 6–2 T–2nd W Silicon Valley
2004
Fresno State 9–3 5–3 T–3rd W MPC Computers
22 22
2005
Fresno State
8–5 6–2 T–3rd L Liberty
2006
Fresno State
4–8 4–4 5th
2007
Fresno State
9–4 6–2 3rd W Humanitarian
2008
Fresno State
7–6 4–4 T–5th L New Mexico
2009
Fresno State
8–5 6–2 3rd L New Mexico
2010
Fresno State
8–5 5–3 4th L Humanitarian
2011
Fresno State
4–9 3–4 T–4th