(08-27-2026 12:20 PM)bill dazzle Wrote: I post during work hours but I am a salaried employee who is given lots of flexibility. As long as I am working the requisite number of hours and getting quality work done ... I'm good with my employer. Tom might have a similar situation, TB4E.
I think you misunderstood. Lots of us post during work. Tommie Bois ONLY posts during work.
(08-27-2026 12:20 PM)bill dazzle Wrote: I post during work hours but I am a salaried employee who is given lots of flexibility. As long as I am working the requisite number of hours and getting quality work done ... I'm good with my employer. Tom might have a similar situation, TB4E.
I think you misunderstood. Lots of us post during work. Tommie Bois ONLY posts during work.
My fumble. I did, in fact, misunderstand.
Nevermind that the statement he made was...as per usual with him...factually inaccurate.
On most days, I post something before I start my work day and after it's complete. And I've posted on nights on weekends on probably a thousand occasions or more over the years.
In fact, my work day ended at 3 today, but here I am...posting.
(08-27-2026 12:20 PM)bill dazzle Wrote: I post during work hours but I am a salaried employee who is given lots of flexibility. As long as I am working the requisite number of hours and getting quality work done ... I'm good with my employer. Tom might have a similar situation, TB4E.
I think you misunderstood. Lots of us post during work. Tommie Bois ONLY posts during work.
My fumble. I did, in fact, misunderstand.
Nevermind that the statement he made was...as per usual with him...factually inaccurate.
On most days, I post something before I start my work day and after it's complete. And I've posted on nights on weekends on probably a thousand occasions or more over the years.
In fact, my work day ended at 3 today, but here I am...posting.
"And I've posted on nights on weekends on probably a thousand occasions or more over the years"
(08-27-2026 12:20 PM)bill dazzle Wrote: I post during work hours but I am a salaried employee who is given lots of flexibility. As long as I am working the requisite number of hours and getting quality work done ... I'm good with my employer. Tom might have a similar situation, TB4E.
I think you misunderstood. Lots of us post during work. Tommie Bois ONLY posts during work.
My fumble. I did, in fact, misunderstand.
Nevermind that the statement he made was...as per usual with him...factually inaccurate.
On most days, I post something before I start my work day and after it's complete. And I've posted on nights on weekends on probably a thousand occasions or more over the years.
In fact, my work day ended at 3 today, but here I am...posting.
Keep posting, Tom. I enjoy reading a diversity of opinions on this board.
(08-27-2026 03:47 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote: "And I've posted on nights on weekends on probably a thousand occasions or more over the years"
Oh he does it, but it's rare enough that people notice when he does.
"Oh look Tom's here on the weekend!!"
"thousands" my arse.
I've only noticed one time since I've been around here. But I do agree with you.
"thousands" my arse"
y'all can blame my arse for this shite ... I tagged him as a "paid op" over a decade ago ... it was obvious he only posted during work hours with a Pinocchio agenda...
he misses the Hambone and others that used to engage with verve and vigor ... there's a reason they finally gave up...
all I know, is this still applies to the commie tommie ...
(08-25-2026 06:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Yeah...and...your alleged proof of this is a rightwing rag talking about a couple right wing nut jobs in the place I'm talking about.
And asking for additional assistance in verifying citizenship is not the same as claiming noncitizens are being added to the Qualified Voter File (QVF) without local knowledge.
And I found the following nugget on a website when looking into this further. Wise words you should probably heed after your Germany server USA deaths debacle.
Wouldn't it just be easier for you to say "I don't care"
Here's another little nugget for you to chew on.
Democrat canvassers vote to keep Citizens Only Voting initiative off November ballot
Americans for Citizen Voting Chairman Paul Jacob:
'You can't cheat the people of Michigan and get away with it'
Lansing—Democratic members of the Michigan Board of State Canvassers voted Monday against certifying the Americans for Citizen Voting initiative, leaving the proposed constitutional amendment to require proof of citizenship off the November ballot after a contentious debate.
The four-member board deadlocked 2-2, with Republican members Chair Richard Houskamp and Paul Cordes voting to certify the petition and Democratic members Vice Chair Mary Ellen Gurewitz and Heather Cummings voting against certification. Since the Board has four members in order to have a petition certified there must be at least three members who vote for it.
The initiative needed 629 valid signatures in the state’s random sample to receive a recommendation for certification. Bureau of Elections staff determined that 626 of the 1,000 signatures reviewed in the sample were valid, putting the petition below the required threshold.
Americans for Citizen Voting challenged the findings and submitted sworn affidavits from petition signers whose signatures had been rejected by election officials. Organizers argued the affidavits demonstrated that several signatures the state had deemed invalid were actually signed by registered voters.
The organization presented testimony from a notary who had notarized affidavits submitted by petition signers. The board reviewed 20 affidavits during the proceedings, with five becoming central to the final decision.
No, because that's a logical fallacy on your part. I care greatly about getting any noncitizens off the voter rolls. But I also understand that it's not the problem your side is telling you it is, so that you don't trust the outcome of elections your side loses.
I'm just asking for actual proof and evidence...not a right with rag reporting on an anonymous tip made to a right-wing not job local sheriff.
And yeah...that measure won't be on the ballot. But it was a dumb measure anyway that would not have passed even if it made the ballot. It would lead to a ridiculous burden being placed on countless voters for a problem...again...that just doesn't exist to be honest.
A review in Michigan in 2024 of 7.2 million active voter registrations found just 15 credible apparent noncitizen voters.
Can you demonstrate for the class which part of his statement is a logical fallacy? Additionally, if you could please expand on exactly what kind of logical fallacy he's guilty of, I would appreciate it. I'll hang up and listen now.
False dilemma/False dichotomy and/or Straw man. Either works.
The first is assuming there are only two possibilities. Either you fully support a topic or your do not care about it at all. A person can care about a topic and still criticize its flaws.
The later is misrepresenting my position and attempting to make it easier to dismiss.
And exactly how has he erected a strawman? And not for nothing, there is no false dilemma in effect. He's presented no either/or arguments. That appears to simply be the easiest way out for you since you cannot effectively argue your position.
You are not very good at this. You may wish to avoid the use of terms you clearly don't understand.
I've considered all of the horse crap that has been spread around in this thread, the personal insults, the whataboutisms, and have come to a conclusion. I'm revoking the warning given to Tom for whataboutisms. It's easier to start handing out retribution for offenses by leveling the playing field.
So, here's what is going to happen from here on out. When a thread contains whataboutisms or personal insults or simply quits discussing the topic in favor of insults whether the post vaguely mentions the O.P. or not, those issuing them will start with a 50% flaming warning, not a 25% warning which allows them to continue to post. It takes a couple of months for a 50% warning to wear off so it is in essence a timed-out ban.
If a thread is rife with these, you won't be able to make the thread go away. But the offending posts will be removed from view and the offenders essentially self-banned with their 50% warning. Upon return to posting should a poster go back to the same antics a full ban will be issued.
As one former poster here had in his avatar, "So let it be written! So let it be done!" which was from Yul Brynner as Ramses II in the Ten Commandments.
laugh or pretend if you wish...you know it's been true for a long, long time. 2026 much?
Quote:They called you a conspiracy theorist. Then they released the paper that blows up their own story.
The CIA just released a document that contradicts the CIA. Their own file on Venezuela and Smartmatic.
Their own file called Smartmatic a U.S. national-security threat in 2006. It said Chávez wanted to stop a sitting American president. It described a 2012 Venezuela rigging plan: targeted machines, a set margin, built to beat an audit. The CIA’s source reported Chavez “congratulated” the team for rigging the election with the previously set margin. Then the CIA wrote “no large-scale fraud” next to it.
Eleven years later, Smartmatic showed up in the U.S. to build L.A. County’s system for $282M — America’s largest election jurisdiction — just in time for the 2020 election. Now its executives are federally charged with bribery and money laundering on that contract.
And we are the conspiracy theorists??
Quote:Mark Cook@PatriotMarkCook
I've known this for years. And it matches the whistleblower testimony I received as well. This is one of the reasons I've been so adamant that we must get rid of electronic voting machines.
This is TRIVIAL for them to have accomplished. Either with SAES Utility to impersonate a real tabulator identity in order to inject votes into the system, and of course duplicate any existing system as a VM (creating a 'CLONE'), and that system can substitute results that look like they came from the original system and there would be no traditional way to determine otherwise).
Another very similar concept is to create a voting system that uses multiple databases for different functions, allowing duplicate databases to be created with different information in them, then easilly swapped in and out with a 'pointer'. This is what Dominion Voting System does, and why there are numerous AdjudicableBallotStore and TabulationStore databases for the same elections. (Yes I know exactly where their pointer is! I found it in 2021).
This is precisely what Mesa Report 3 documents. Same voting system, same election, multiple databases, different votes between them. handcountroadshow.org/mesa-county-re…
The reason why I'm blocked everywhere in DC (and why Media Matters targeted me (mediamatters.org/election-denia…) is because I KNOW HOW THEY DO IT! And not only do I know how they do it, I know all the other ways they can do it, regardless of the voting system.
Gosh if I were a bad guy, the voting system vendors would be paying me huge bucks to help them hide what they do even better.
Knowing what I know does make one appreciate the intelligence of people like Eric Coomer and Heider Garcia. And I know exactly why they are/were/lol employed by the vendors to begin with. Heck, Heider recently took a VP position at Hart InterCivic! (of course after our FEDERAL EAC hired him as a consultant).
And yes, this again is why the Media Matters attack.
I KNOW IT ALL. And yes, I even have the (now deleted) Smartmatic source code that I examined years ago. Is this why nobody wants to play? lol.
So when someone with actual authority to fix this wants to know what I know, by all means they should feel free to reach out.
Until then, anyone that allows even one more election to run on this IRREDEEMABLY COMPROMISED election system is either a criminal or a fool.
I'm happy to record a video about this particular topic of electronic substitution works (whether by database, software utility impersonation, or VM). Would anyone find that of value? Heck if anyone in media would like me to go over this all for your guests, I'm happy to do that too. The more that know, the better.
but...but...but muh 2026 midterms....muh 'blue wave'....wave bye-bye to your freedom....
(This post was last modified: 11-13-2026 01:44 PM by GoodOwl.)
(11-13-2026 01:42 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: laugh or pretend if you wish...you know it's been true for a long, long time. 2026 much?
Quote:They called you a conspiracy theorist. Then they released the paper that blows up their own story.
The CIA just released a document that contradicts the CIA. Their own file on Venezuela and Smartmatic.
Their own file called Smartmatic a U.S. national-security threat in 2006. It said Chávez wanted to stop a sitting American president. It described a 2012 Venezuela rigging plan: targeted machines, a set margin, built to beat an audit. The CIA’s source reported Chavez “congratulated” the team for rigging the election with the previously set margin. Then the CIA wrote “no large-scale fraud” next to it.
Eleven years later, Smartmatic showed up in the U.S. to build L.A. County’s system for $282M — America’s largest election jurisdiction — just in time for the 2020 election. Now its executives are federally charged with bribery and money laundering on that contract.
And we are the conspiracy theorists??
Quote:Mark Cook@PatriotMarkCook
I've known this for years. And it matches the whistleblower testimony I received as well. This is one of the reasons I've been so adamant that we must get rid of electronic voting machines.
This is TRIVIAL for them to have accomplished. Either with SAES Utility to impersonate a real tabulator identity in order to inject votes into the system, and of course duplicate any existing system as a VM (creating a 'CLONE'), and that system can substitute results that look like they came from the original system and there would be no traditional way to determine otherwise).
Another very similar concept is to create a voting system that uses multiple databases for different functions, allowing duplicate databases to be created with different information in them, then easilly swapped in and out with a 'pointer'. This is what Dominion Voting System does, and why there are numerous AdjudicableBallotStore and TabulationStore databases for the same elections. (Yes I know exactly where their pointer is! I found it in 2021).
This is precisely what Mesa Report 3 documents. Same voting system, same election, multiple databases, different votes between them. handcountroadshow.org/mesa-county-re…
The reason why I'm blocked everywhere in DC (and why Media Matters targeted me (mediamatters.org/election-denia…) is because I KNOW HOW THEY DO IT! And not only do I know how they do it, I know all the other ways they can do it, regardless of the voting system.
Gosh if I were a bad guy, the voting system vendors would be paying me huge bucks to help them hide what they do even better.
Knowing what I know does make one appreciate the intelligence of people like Eric Coomer and Heider Garcia. And I know exactly why they are/were/lol employed by the vendors to begin with. Heck, Heider recently took a VP position at Hart InterCivic! (of course after our FEDERAL EAC hired him as a consultant).
And yes, this again is why the Media Matters attack.
I KNOW IT ALL. And yes, I even have the (now deleted) Smartmatic source code that I examined years ago. Is this why nobody wants to play? lol.
So when someone with actual authority to fix this wants to know what I know, by all means they should feel free to reach out.
Until then, anyone that allows even one more election to run on this IRREDEEMABLY COMPROMISED election system is either a criminal or a fool.
I'm happy to record a video about this particular topic of electronic substitution works (whether by database, software utility impersonation, or VM). Would anyone find that of value? Heck if anyone in media would like me to go over this all for your guests, I'm happy to do that too. The more that know, the better.
but...but...but muh 2026 midterms....muh 'blue wave'....wave bye-bye to your freedom....
Wow, that's one giant leap of logical fallacy you did there. Big props!
IIRC, In 2020, the ONLY elections office the country to use Smartmatic was LA County. So even if the vote was rigged in one county in a state that trump lost by 5 million in 2020, how on earth does that ever prove anything in relation to the whole country in 2020, much less the entire country in the 2026 midterm elections? Hint: IT DOESN'T!
Further, that CIA report doesn't even say what you're claiming it says.
Quote:trump’s strategy is based on a selective and tendentious reading of the CIA report. While the president claims there was a “specific plot” by Nicolás Maduro’s regime to alter election results through technology, the declassified report is far more cautious. It states that the Venezuelan government had “some capability” to manipulate electronic voting systems within its own territory, but explicitly warns that there is no conclusive evidence of large-scale electronic fraud.
Even more crucial is the CIA’s conclusion regarding the exportability of these alleged manipulations:neither the Venezuelan government nor the company Smartmatic had the capability to interfere with elections outside Venezuela. Nevertheless, trump has used these findings to cast doubt on the U.S. midterm elections and to reiterate the theory—systematically rejected by the courts—that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from him. This fraud narrative, historically amplified by media outlets such as Fox News—which was forced to pay $787 million to Dominion Voting Systems for spreading baseless conspiracy theories—seeks to erode institutional trust for immediate political purposes.
