(09-15-2026 10:55 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 09:18 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 07:56 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 07:49 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 01:52 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Do you think that's due to a lack of trying?

Yes, those countries all have nukes and could "try" them at the push of a button, but they haven't.

Speaking more from a rouge state perspective, terrorists, etc. I'd imagine they are constantly trying to obtain a weapon. I have no doubt Iran would use one if it ever got one as well.

That would mean retaliatory nuclear strikes to major population centers throughout Iran. What do they gain from that? I think MAD still applies, even to the radical revolutionaries currently in charge of the country.

That said, I'm still strongly in favor of preventing them from ever obtaining one.

What do they have to gain? A bunch of virgins, according to them. I don't think they'd care much about retaliatory strikes. This is why I don't care so much for temporary high fuel prices given that Iran has no chance to develop a full fledged nuclear weapon.

Define temporary.

If you think gas will be back under $3 nationally in the near future, you're delusional.

(09-15-2026 12:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 10:55 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 09:18 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 07:56 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 07:49 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Yes, those countries all have nukes and could "try" them at the push of a button, but they haven't.

Speaking more from a rouge state perspective, terrorists, etc. I'd imagine they are constantly trying to obtain a weapon. I have no doubt Iran would use one if it ever got one as well.

That would mean retaliatory nuclear strikes to major population centers throughout Iran. What do they gain from that? I think MAD still applies, even to the radical revolutionaries currently in charge of the country.

That said, I'm still strongly in favor of preventing them from ever obtaining one.

What do they have to gain? A bunch of virgins, according to them. I don't think they'd care much about retaliatory strikes. This is why I don't care so much for temporary high fuel prices given that Iran has no chance to develop a full fledged nuclear weapon.

Define temporary.

If you think gas will be back under $3 nationally in the near future, you're delusional.

Temporary = not forever.

(09-15-2026 11:39 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Israelis were constantly killing nuclear scientists attempting to enrich uranium to weapons grade. It was only a matter of time. Now, when that time was almost at hand Trump ACTED.

This is complete fiction.

They reportedly killed some before the JCPOA. But during the deal, the only thing I see is that an Israeli operation reportedly obtained a large archive of Iranian nuclear-program documents from a Tehran warehouse. That operation captured documents, not scientists.

The only assassination I see was of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh. But that was in November of 2020. A full two years after trump cancelled the JCPOA and didn't replace it with anything.

(09-15-2026 12:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 11:39 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Israelis were constantly killing nuclear scientists attempting to enrich uranium to weapons grade. It was only a matter of time. Now, when that time was almost at hand Trump ACTED.

This is complete fiction.

They reportedly killed some before the JCPOA. But during the deal, the only thing I see is that an Israeli operation reportedly obtained a large archive of Iranian nuclear-program documents from a Tehran warehouse. That operation captured documents, not scientists.

The only assassination I see was of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh. But that was in November of 2020. A full two years after trump cancelled the JCPOA and didn't replace it with anything.

You should know how to do a search for information. I know you have reading problems but I think you can do it. Blue is right.

(09-15-2026 03:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 12:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 11:39 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Israelis were constantly killing nuclear scientists attempting to enrich uranium to weapons grade. It was only a matter of time. Now, when that time was almost at hand Trump ACTED.

This is complete fiction.

They reportedly killed some before the JCPOA. But during the deal, the only thing I see is that an Israeli operation reportedly obtained a large archive of Iranian nuclear-program documents from a Tehran warehouse. That operation captured documents, not scientists.

The only assassination I see was of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh. But that was in November of 2020. A full two years after trump cancelled the JCPOA and didn't replace it with anything.

You should know how to do a search for information. I know you have reading problems but I think you can do it. Blue is right.

WTF are you babbling about? I did a ******* search! Why do you think I called his commentary complete fiction? There were no reports of Israel taking out even one scientist during the deal, much less "constantly" doing so.

Trump didn't "cancel" the JCPOA. He just withdrew the U.S. from the agreement. All of the other countries were still involved. They were holding Iran's feet to the fire because it was such a good agreement and very enforceable.

(09-15-2026 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 03:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 12:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 11:39 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Israelis were constantly killing nuclear scientists attempting to enrich uranium to weapons grade. It was only a matter of time. Now, when that time was almost at hand Trump ACTED.

This is complete fiction.

They reportedly killed some before the JCPOA. But during the deal, the only thing I see is that an Israeli operation reportedly obtained a large archive of Iranian nuclear-program documents from a Tehran warehouse. That operation captured documents, not scientists.

The only assassination I see was of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh. But that was in November of 2020. A full two years after trump cancelled the JCPOA and didn't replace it with anything.

You should know how to do a search for information. I know you have reading problems but I think you can do it. Blue is right.

WTF are you babbling about? I did a ******* search, mope. Why do you think I called his commentary complete fiction? There were no reports of Israel taking out even one scientist during the deal, much less "constantly" doing so.

Isolated Strikes: Before 2025, Israel's Mossad intelligence agency carried out a series of targeted assassinations.

Key Casualties: Six prominent Iranian nuclear scientists and figures were killed in covert attacks, notably between 2010 and 2012, and again in 2020 (such as Mohsen Fakhrizadeh).

Strategic Intent: These operations were designed to create localized disruptions and delay progress, though Iran was generally able to manage the losses and recruit replacements over time.

Large-Scale Strikes: On June 13, 2025, Israel launched Operation Rising Lion, shifting from covert individual assassinations to overt military strikes combined with targeted eliminations.

Loss of Personnel: The military action resulted in the deaths of at least 14 key nuclear experts, including former Atomic Energy Organization head Fereydoun Abbasi-Davani.

Facility Damage: The joint operations heavily damaged primary enrichment plants in Natanz and Isfahan, significantly rolling back Iran's capacity to quickly produce 90% weapons-grade material.

Up another 4 cents today.

Quote:Current Avg. $4.3672
Yesterday Avg. $4.3289

Diesel up another 4 cents as well to another new record high of $6.31.
https://gasprices.aaa.com/

And that very well may be just the tip of iceberg on diesel.

Thanks Blump.

(09-16-2026 06:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Up another 4 cents today.

Quote:Current Avg. $4.3672
Yesterday Avg. $4.3289

Diesel up another 4 cents as well to another new record high of $6.31.
https://gasprices.aaa.com/

And that very well may be just the tip of iceberg on diesel.

$3.60 locally (regular gas). Do not care what the price is in Idaho.

(09-16-2026 08:33 AM)VA49er Wrote:  $3.60 locally (regular gas). Do not care what the price is in Idaho.

What state? And are you including any discounts like at Costco?

AAA doesn't show any counties in the country with an average price that low outside of Indiana which suspended their gas tax.

It's September 16th, 2026...

...AND I STILL DON'T F***ING CARE ABOUT HIGH GAS PRICES!!!!

(09-16-2026 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-16-2026 08:33 AM)VA49er Wrote:  $3.60 locally (regular gas). Do not care what the price is in Idaho.

What state? And are you including any discounts like at Costco?

AAA doesn't show any counties in the country with an average price that low outside of Indiana which suspended their gas tax.

VA - no discount.

I just checked GasBuddy and saw the local prices. Granted, that was one of the lower prices listed.

(09-15-2026 05:18 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 03:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 12:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 11:39 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Israelis were constantly killing nuclear scientists attempting to enrich uranium to weapons grade. It was only a matter of time. Now, when that time was almost at hand Trump ACTED.

This is complete fiction.

They reportedly killed some before the JCPOA. But during the deal, the only thing I see is that an Israeli operation reportedly obtained a large archive of Iranian nuclear-program documents from a Tehran warehouse. That operation captured documents, not scientists.

The only assassination I see was of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh. But that was in November of 2020. A full two years after trump cancelled the JCPOA and didn't replace it with anything.

You should know how to do a search for information. I know you have reading problems but I think you can do it. Blue is right.

WTF are you babbling about? I did a ******* search, mope. Why do you think I called his commentary complete fiction? There were no reports of Israel taking out even one scientist during the deal, much less "constantly" doing so.

Isolated Strikes: Before 2025, Israel's Mossad intelligence agency carried out a series of targeted assassinations.

Key Casualties: Six prominent Iranian nuclear scientists and figures were killed in covert attacks, notably between 2010 and 2012, and again in 2020 (such as Mohsen Fakhrizadeh).

Strategic Intent: These operations were designed to create localized disruptions and delay progress, though Iran was generally able to manage the losses and recruit replacements over time.

Large-Scale Strikes: On June 13, 2025, Israel launched Operation Rising Lion, shifting from covert individual assassinations to overt military strikes combined with targeted eliminations.

Loss of Personnel: The military action resulted in the deaths of at least 14 key nuclear experts, including former Atomic Energy Organization head Fereydoun Abbasi-Davani.

Facility Damage: The joint operations heavily damaged primary enrichment plants in Natanz and Isfahan, significantly rolling back Iran's capacity to quickly produce 90% weapons-grade material.

Just know Tommy boy will NEVER LET FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF HIS DEMENTED TALKING POINTS. Besides facts ruin a good a story of biased babble. He is definitely dishonest and he intentionally spews lies or we will call them misinformation to fit his biased slant.

That being said, I’m not exactly thrilled with the way Trump is handling Iran and the Thugs controlling it.

He needs to step up the pressure

(09-16-2026 10:31 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 05:18 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 03:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 12:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  This is complete fiction.

They reportedly killed some before the JCPOA. But during the deal, the only thing I see is that an Israeli operation reportedly obtained a large archive of Iranian nuclear-program documents from a Tehran warehouse. That operation captured documents, not scientists.

The only assassination I see was of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh. But that was in November of 2020. A full two years after trump cancelled the JCPOA and didn't replace it with anything.

You should know how to do a search for information. I know you have reading problems but I think you can do it. Blue is right.

WTF are you babbling about? I did a ******* search, mope. Why do you think I called his commentary complete fiction? There were no reports of Israel taking out even one scientist during the deal, much less "constantly" doing so.

Isolated Strikes: Before 2025, Israel's Mossad intelligence agency carried out a series of targeted assassinations.

Key Casualties: Six prominent Iranian nuclear scientists and figures were killed in covert attacks, notably between 2010 and 2012, and again in 2020 (such as Mohsen Fakhrizadeh).

Strategic Intent: These operations were designed to create localized disruptions and delay progress, though Iran was generally able to manage the losses and recruit replacements over time.

Large-Scale Strikes: On June 13, 2025, Israel launched Operation Rising Lion, shifting from covert individual assassinations to overt military strikes combined with targeted eliminations.

Loss of Personnel: The military action resulted in the deaths of at least 14 key nuclear experts, including former Atomic Energy Organization head Fereydoun Abbasi-Davani.

Facility Damage: The joint operations heavily damaged primary enrichment plants in Natanz and Isfahan, significantly rolling back Iran's capacity to quickly produce 90% weapons-grade material.

Just know Tommy boy will NEVER LET FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF HIS DEMENTED TALKING POINTS. Besides facts ruin a good a story of biased babble. He is definitely dishonest and he intentionally spews lies or we will call them misinformation to fit his biased slant.

That being said, I’m not exactly thrilled with the way Trump is handling Iran and the Thugs controlling it.

He needs to step up the pressure

Sure, Jan.

I provided facts.

That being said, perhaps I made the assumption you were talking about Israel killing scientists during the time we were in the JCPOA as I thought you were saying it was not working and they were enriching to weapons grade level. If you meant before and the one guy afterward, please accept my apologies.

And for the scientists Israel killed before the JCPOA, my research is saying that the evidence of them enriching uranium to weapons grade level was never presented publicly by Israel. In fact, they apparently didn't even take any credit for taking them out. Rather it was Western intelligence that attributed the killings to Israel.

If you want to provide the evidence of the killed enriching uranium to weapons grade level, I'll gladly look at it. Also, the JCPOA did still allow them to enrich uranium for non weapons usage.

And don't forget this from way back in 2012. Bibi isn't known for exactly being truthful when it comes to Iran and the bomb.

(09-16-2026 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-16-2026 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-16-2026 08:33 AM)VA49er Wrote:  $3.60 locally (regular gas). Do not care what the price is in Idaho.

What state? And are you including any discounts like at Costco?

AAA doesn't show any counties in the country with an average price that low outside of Indiana which suspended their gas tax.

VA - no discount.

I just checked GasBuddy and saw the local prices. Granted, that was one of the lower prices listed.

Per AAA, the average price in Virginia is $4.15. The counties with the cheapest averages are Mecklenburg ($3.99) and Buchanan ($3.94).

So consider yourself pretty lucky. My area is now at $4.59.

(09-16-2026 10:49 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-16-2026 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-16-2026 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-16-2026 08:33 AM)VA49er Wrote:  $3.60 locally (regular gas). Do not care what the price is in Idaho.

What state? And are you including any discounts like at Costco?

AAA doesn't show any counties in the country with an average price that low outside of Indiana which suspended their gas tax.

VA - no discount.

I just checked GasBuddy and saw the local prices. Granted, that was one of the lower prices listed.

Per AAA, the average price in Virginia is $4.15. The counties with the cheapest averages are Mecklenburg ($3.99) and Buchanan ($3.94).

So consider yourself pretty lucky. My area is now at $4.59.

Good

Sorry you're a poor. Life is hard. No idea what the price of gas is. Just fill up. Ain't got not time for that.

Glady pay 2 dollars per gallon extra to bomb third world retards that want our destruction.


You wouldn't complain if it went to abortions or tranny surgery for kids.

Gtfoh

(09-16-2026 10:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-16-2026 10:31 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 05:18 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-15-2026 03:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  You should know how to do a search for information. I know you have reading problems but I think you can do it. Blue is right.

WTF are you babbling about? I did a ******* search, mope. Why do you think I called his commentary complete fiction? There were no reports of Israel taking out even one scientist during the deal, much less "constantly" doing so.

Isolated Strikes: Before 2025, Israel's Mossad intelligence agency carried out a series of targeted assassinations.

Key Casualties: Six prominent Iranian nuclear scientists and figures were killed in covert attacks, notably between 2010 and 2012, and again in 2020 (such as Mohsen Fakhrizadeh).

Strategic Intent: These operations were designed to create localized disruptions and delay progress, though Iran was generally able to manage the losses and recruit replacements over time.

Large-Scale Strikes: On June 13, 2025, Israel launched Operation Rising Lion, shifting from covert individual assassinations to overt military strikes combined with targeted eliminations.

Loss of Personnel: The military action resulted in the deaths of at least 14 key nuclear experts, including former Atomic Energy Organization head Fereydoun Abbasi-Davani.

Facility Damage: The joint operations heavily damaged primary enrichment plants in Natanz and Isfahan, significantly rolling back Iran's capacity to quickly produce 90% weapons-grade material.

Just know Tommy boy will NEVER LET FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF HIS DEMENTED TALKING POINTS. Besides facts ruin a good a story of biased babble. He is definitely dishonest and he intentionally spews lies or we will call them misinformation to fit his biased slant.

That being said, I’m not exactly thrilled with the way Trump is handling Iran and the Thugs controlling it.

He needs to step up the pressure

Sure, Jan.

I provided facts.

That being said, perhaps I made the assumption you were talking about Israel killing scientists during the time we were in the JCPOA as I thought you were saying it was not working and they were enriching to weapons grade level. If you meant before and the one guy afterward, please accept my apologies.

And for the scientists Israel killed before the JCPOA, my research is saying that the evidence of them enriching uranium to weapons grade level was never presented publicly by Israel. In fact, they apparently didn't even take any credit for taking them out. Rather it was Western intelligence that attributed the killings to Israel.

If you want to provide the evidence of the killed enriching uranium to weapons grade level, I'll gladly look at it. Also, the JCPOA did still allow them to enrich uranium for non weapons usage.

And don't forget this from way back in 2012. Bibi isn't known for exactly being truthful when it comes to Iran and the bomb.

Delusional is your best offense. Anyone with a brain and any sense of self awareness knows the facts because we lived them.

You on the other hand being the keyboard warrior just google your information having zero self awareness that google limits information.

Just one day in your life pull your head out of your azz.

Really it’s not a good look

(09-16-2026 10:49 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-16-2026 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-16-2026 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-16-2026 08:33 AM)VA49er Wrote:  $3.60 locally (regular gas). Do not care what the price is in Idaho.

What state? And are you including any discounts like at Costco?

AAA doesn't show any counties in the country with an average price that low outside of Indiana which suspended their gas tax.

VA - no discount.

I just checked GasBuddy and saw the local prices. Granted, that was one of the lower prices listed.

Per AAA, the average price in Virginia is $4.15. The counties with the cheapest averages are Mecklenburg ($3.99) and Buchanan ($3.94).

So consider yourself pretty lucky. My area is now at $4.59.

Haven't seen it above $4 except for the usual places right off the interstates. Probably a good idea to not believe everything AAA says.

Remember, Dems want higher gas prices to conform with their man made global warming scam. Anything they state otherwise is merely part of their TDS.