(05-20-2026 04:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 04:08 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 03:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 03:25 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 03:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  No, because it lasted for his entire 4 year term and it was Biden*s f*cking stupidty that did it.

Ah, so it was all Biden’s fault, got it.

Curious, when the stock market was at an all-time high under Biden, was that his fault too?

We've been thru this before, but let me hand hold you on this:

Under Biden*, the stock market tanked about 20 percent or more and the depressed markets lasted for about 2.5 years. When it was clear that Trump would be the republican nominee, and again when it was clear he was going to mop the floor with whatever bumbling numbnut the dems ran against him is when the markets reached their highs. If you know the markets are going to boom under Trump policies, you dont wait until he's elected. You jump in ahead of it.

Lmao, the DJI reached an ATH in March and September of 2021, well before any thing with the 2024 election was finalized. And then it went down with the Ukraine war. Edit: which yes, can be put on Biden a bit, since his “threat” to Russia was, “you better not do that” while holding up a frail finger.

It went up the first number of months under Biden* because his policies hadnt kicked in yet. So Biden* was living under Trump's booming economy that he had left him.

The markets started going down 2 months prior to the Ukraine war. So that wasnt it. It had everything to do with policies, rising energy prices, and disastrous inflation under Biden*.

Oh boy. I really don’t want to hear anyone around here say “cult” again when describing the left.

I roll my eyes when the left makes fun of the right and saying they think Trump is the second coming of our Lord. Maybe they’re on to something. Trump posting that image a few weeks ago makes sense now, his followers have made him feel that way.

(05-20-2026 04:52 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  Oh boy. I really don’t want to hear anyone around here say “cult” again when describing the left.

I roll my eyes when the left makes fun of the right and saying they think Trump is the second coming of our Lord. Maybe they’re on to something. Trump posting that image a few weeks ago makes sense now, his followers have made him feel that way.

BOTH SIDES DO IT!

- bill dazzle circa 2026

(05-20-2026 04:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 04:06 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I don't care what the national average is or was. I've never paid more here in Texas than I have in the past few months.

I also don't think Iran would be dumb enough to launch a nuke if they had it. About as dangerous as the Iraqi WMDs from the 00s

Gas was higher under Biden and his 9% inflation than it is now with Trump in Iran. I remember that very clearly.

It was, 1 month further into the Ukraine War than we are currently in Epstein Fury. Let's see where we are in the middle of June when the Ukraine War hit the 4 month mark roughly the same as where Epstein Fury will be in the middle of June since it will still be going on in a month in either this form or back to hot war.

(05-21-2026 07:10 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 04:52 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  Oh boy. I really don’t want to hear anyone around here say “cult” again when describing the left.

I roll my eyes when the left makes fun of the right and saying they think Trump is the second coming of our Lord. Maybe they’re on to something. Trump posting that image a few weeks ago makes sense now, his followers have made him feel that way.

BOTH SIDES DO IT!

- bill dazzle circa 2026

"It was 1 month further into the Ukraine War than we are currently in Epstein Fury. Let's see where we are in the middle of June when the Ukraine War hits the 4-month mark, roughly the same as where Epstein Fury will be in the middle of June, since it will still be going on in a month in either this form or back to a hot war.

FIFY, atrocious grammar. Do you send out company emails using such poor grammar? I had to check when you posted this because the Ukraine war has lasted far longer than four months.

Maybe you meant something else?

(05-21-2026 07:55 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  "It was 1 month further into the Ukraine War than we are currently in Epstein Fury. Let's see where we are in the middle of June when the Ukraine War hits the 4-month mark, roughly the same as where Epstein Fury will be in the middle of June, since it will still be going on in a month in either this form or back to a hot war.

FIFY, atrocious grammar. Do you send out company emails using such poor grammar? I had to check when you posted this because the Ukraine war has lasted far longer than four months.

Maybe you meant something else?

I'll take this in good faith and try to be more clear as I was referencing a post I made earlier in this thread without quoting it so that part is my fault.

The Ukraine War started on February 24th 2022, nearly the same exact time this war started on February 28th 2026. Peak gas prices were hit in the middle of June 2022, for regular unleaded the peak was hit on 6/14/22 and for diesel the peak was hit on 6/19/22, just a little under 4 months into the Ukraine War. Yes, currently from this war we have not reached those peaks at the pump, but we are also currently still about a month short of the timeline of when those peaks were hit in 2022. My contention is that if the strait is still closed in the middle of June we will be at or above those 2022 peaks. I also contend that unlike prices back then that did drop even without the Ukraine War ever ending that prices will never go back down to where they were until this war is over and the strait is open.

(05-20-2026 03:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 02:09 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  Saw Trump say yesterday that the gas increase was “peanuts”.

When gas increased under Biden, was it also “peanuts”?

No, because it lasted for his entire 4 year term and it was Biden*s f*cking stupidty that did it.

You really like keeping your title as a dishonest troll, don't you?

Not only did it not last his entire presidency, his "stupidity" had next to nothing to do with it as I've showed you many many times.

Why do you insist on remaining ignorant?

(05-20-2026 04:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 04:06 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I don't care what the national average is or was. I've never paid more here in Texas than I have in the past few months.

I also don't think Iran would be dumb enough to launch a nuke if they had it. About as dangerous as the Iraqi WMDs from the 00s

Gas was higher under Biden and his 9% inflation than it is now with Trump in Iran. I remember that very clearly.

While you remember that, you still seem to be a bit foggy on the why. Additionally, when it comes to gas prices and inflation...they tend to lag behind world events.

And we're likely not near the peak of where gas prices may end up if this excursion continues. I don't think we'll hit that high of inflation as we aren't likely to have another Covid...but I'd be very surprised if we don't surpass the all-time high for gas which was $5.01.

(05-21-2026 07:10 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 04:52 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  Oh boy. I really don’t want to hear anyone around here say “cult” again when describing the left.

I roll my eyes when the left makes fun of the right and saying they think Trump is the second coming of our Lord. Maybe they’re on to something. Trump posting that image a few weeks ago makes sense now, his followers have made him feel that way.

BOTH SIDES DO IT!

- bill dazzle circa 2026

Proud to be LGBTQIA

Libertarianism, gay (marriage rights supporter), boozing (with busty and bawdy blondes and brunettes), tax (elimination on earned income), Queen (music of the mid-1970s), individualism and America (the greatest country ever)

(05-21-2026 09:07 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(05-21-2026 07:55 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  "It was 1 month further into the Ukraine War than we are currently in Epstein Fury. Let's see where we are in the middle of June when the Ukraine War hits the 4-month mark, roughly the same as where Epstein Fury will be in the middle of June, since it will still be going on in a month in either this form or back to a hot war.

FIFY, atrocious grammar. Do you send out company emails using such poor grammar? I had to check when you posted this because the Ukraine war has lasted far longer than four months.

Maybe you meant something else?

I'll take this in good faith and try to be more clear as I was referencing a post I made earlier in this thread without quoting it so that part is my fault.

The Ukraine War started on February 24th 2022, nearly the same exact time this war started on February 28th 2026. Peak gas prices were hit in the middle of June 2022, for regular unleaded the peak was hit on 6/14/22 and for diesel the peak was hit on 6/19/22, just a little under 4 months into the Ukraine War. Yes, currently from this war we have not reached those peaks at the pump, but we are also currently still about a month short of the timeline of when those peaks were hit in 2022. My contention is that if the strait is still closed in the middle of June we will be at or above those 2022 peaks. I also contend that unlike prices back then that did drop even without the Ukraine War ever ending that prices will never go back down to where they were until this war is over and the strait is open.

Very well stated and accurate.

However, the amount of damage that's been done so far to the oil production and delivery apparatus in the ME...and what still may come...will take time to get back online. This wasn't an issue in June of 2022.

(05-21-2026 10:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 03:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 02:09 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  Saw Trump say yesterday that the gas increase was “peanuts”.

When gas increased under Biden, was it also “peanuts”?

No, because it lasted for his entire 4 year term and it was Biden*s f*cking stupidty that did it.

You really like keeping your title as a dishonest troll, don't you?

Not only did it not last his entire presidency, his "stupidity" had next to nothing to do with it as I've showed you many many times.

Why do you insist on remaining ignorant?

Some folks on both the left and right will believe "what they want to believe," Tom. As long as those beliefs fit their political narrative, it doesn't matter if the beliefs are true or not.

There are some gents like this who post on this board.

Proud to be LGBTQIA

Libertarianism, gay (marriage rights supporter), boozing (with busty and bawdy blondes and brunettes), tax (elimination on earned income), Queen (music of the mid-1970s), individualism and America (the greatest country ever)

(05-20-2026 04:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 04:06 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I don't care what the national average is or was. I've never paid more here in Texas than I have in the past few months.

I also don't think Iran would be dumb enough to launch a nuke if they had it. About as dangerous as the Iraqi WMDs from the 00s

You must have been in a coma during June 2022 regarding gas prices in Texas. Also, your best thoughts have gotten you where you are today regarding Iran. Why do you think terrorist get weapons? Also, the Kurds would like a word with you regarding WMDs in Iraq.

Geeze I guess so. Just AId it and yeah it was ridiculous. I'm can't believe I blanked on that. Hopefully gas prices bounce back down in similar fashion.

Strait of Hormuz Live Tracker — Real-Time Shipping & Oil Crisis Monitor https://share.google/eP1FP4LtgViv8fKvW
Traffic in the Strait is up about 600% from last week.

Crude Oil Futures are down (as I write) 5.72% today compared to yesterday.

One day (hopefully sooner rather than later), the war will end and normal traffic resume. It is possible prices will tend lower than before the war because a badly damaged Iran will need to sell oil at a discount and is in no shape to cause much instability.

Never forget, the Dem's want higher oil prices to fuel their global warming narrative. Hypocrites.

(05-21-2026 09:07 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(05-21-2026 07:55 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  "It was 1 month further into the Ukraine War than we are currently in Epstein Fury. Let's see where we are in the middle of June when the Ukraine War hits the 4-month mark, roughly the same as where Epstein Fury will be in the middle of June, since it will still be going on in a month in either this form or back to a hot war.

FIFY, atrocious grammar. Do you send out company emails using such poor grammar? I had to check when you posted this because the Ukraine war has lasted far longer than four months.

Maybe you meant something else?

I'll take this in good faith and try to be more clear as I was referencing a post I made earlier in this thread without quoting it so that part is my fault.

The Ukraine War started on February 24th 2022, nearly the same exact time this war started on February 28th 2026. Peak gas prices were hit in the middle of June 2022, for regular unleaded the peak was hit on 6/14/22 and for diesel the peak was hit on 6/19/22, just a little under 4 months into the Ukraine War. Yes, currently from this war we have not reached those peaks at the pump, but we are also currently still about a month short of the timeline of when those peaks were hit in 2022. My contention is that if the strait is still closed in the middle of June we will be at or above those 2022 peaks. I also contend that unlike prices back then that did drop even without the Ukraine War ever ending that prices will never go back down to where they were until this war is over and the strait is open.

I must have missed this. Thank you for the well-stated response. Clarity is a good thing.

I agree with your take on all of this.

Something needs to happen to restore stability across a broad spectrum of issues related to the single issue of the economy, "it's the economy, stupid!" and it can't come soon enough.

(05-21-2026 10:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 03:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-20-2026 02:09 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  Saw Trump say yesterday that the gas increase was “peanuts”.

When gas increased under Biden, was it also “peanuts”?

No, because it lasted for his entire 4 year term and it was Biden*s f*cking stupidty that did it.

You really like keeping your title as a dishonest troll, don't you?

Not only did it not last his entire presidency, his "stupidity" had next to nothing to do with it as I've showed you many many times.

Why do you insist on remaining ignorant?

So you're agreeing that Biden was "stupid" and, while doing so, inferring that a president doesn't affect gas prices?

(05-25-2026 07:59 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Never forget, the Dem's want higher oil prices to fuel their global warming narrative. Hypocrites.

Give that man a cigar and a gold star.

Wait, didn't the UN just ditch global warming as a thing?