(01-08-2026 09:09 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:04 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Some of these posts are simply unbelievable. ICE agents have been called every name in the book by leftist politicians and vilified for doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing. Rounding up and deporting people who are here illegally. They are obstructed, yelled at, have things thrown at them, and everywhere they go left wing protestors do what they can to interfere. Some of the folks in this thread evidently lack the mental capacity to understand the situation this behavior creates. The agents are going to be on edge and they are going to give someone the benefit of the doubt when they use their vehicle in the manner she did. Did she deserve to die. Not in my opinion but i don't deal with these leftist loons every day nor do i get threatened and de-humanized by them and their political masters on a regular basis. The left created this situation. They own it.

The big question is why do the Dems always side with the criminals and illegal aliens?

Bottom line - if you are in this country illegally, YOU ARE A LAW BREAKING CRIMINAL. They all need to be deported. Every last one of them. End of discussion. The morons on the left can’t seem to comprehend this.

Simplest answer is that leftists hate authority of any kind.

(01-08-2026 09:19 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:11 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:38 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:25 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  What part of she accelerated her car, drove straight toward him and hit him did you not understand?

If a policeman attempts to arrest you, you resist, and attempt to cause him bodily harm to where he thinks his life is in danger, what the hell do you think is going to happen?

He shot her after he was clear of the car. You can see his feet to the side of the car. He’ll he was leaning around the A pillar for a better shot.

He was big mad she didn’t listen to them and executed her. If he hadn’t have shot she would have drove off and been arrested later.

Your first paragraph is absolutely incorrect. The first shot was dead on. You just have to look at the right video, instead of the one you prefer. It's clear as day.

And Jonathan Turley just said again that the shoot was absolutely legit, that it was clearly within the standard of Tennessee vs. Garner, the current governing law decision in cases like this.

On top of that, Turley said MN can indict him and attempt to bring him to trial, but the feds through the supremacy clause can move it to federal court and drop the case. And his superiors have already cleared him.

He will be potentially liable for civil lawsuits brought by the victim's family.

DHS Use of Force Policy - Use of Safe Tactics - Page 6 -

“ 2. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving
vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.
3. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.”


The officer placed himself in front of the vehicle. He intentionally manufactured a situation where he could then say “she was coming right for me” and shoot her.

Page 7 -

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall employ de-escalation tactics and techniques, when safe and feasible, that do not compromise law enforcement priorities.”

Given that he manufactured the justification for the use of force by moving in front of her car, he could have deescalated by simply moving out of the way. What he did was move out of the way, then shoot her.

You can see in this freeze frame that this is the moment of the first shot, the cloud of gas and glass is visible. His feet are clearly clear of the vehicle, he is leaning in front of it for a better shot.




Use of Force Policy- Page 9

“ Discharging a firearm at a person shall be done only with the intent of stopping that person from continuing the threatening behavior that justifies the use of deadly force.”

As you can clearly see from the officers location for shots two and three he continued to fire after there was no continued threat. Neither he or his partner were in front of the vehicle.

“ Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject. However, deadly force is authorized to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject where the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the subject poses a significant threat of death or serious physical harm to the officer/agent or others and such force is necessary to prevent escape. “

I assume the officer has no preexisting knowledge that this lady is a serial killer, and has no justification to fire to stop her from fleeing.

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall not discharge their firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle, vessel, or aircraft unless deadly force is necessary, that is, when the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the operator poses an imminent danger of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.

Such deadly force may include a moving vehicle aimed at officers/agents or others present, but would not include a moving vehicle merely fleeing from officers/agents unless the vehicle or the escape of the subject poses an imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.“

Such force may include a moving vehicle, but the officer created the use of force situation by moving in front of the vehicle, could simply deescalate by moving, and instead chose to move then shoot and keep shooting after the threat ended.

This lady is dead because this guy didn’t follow policy, has a big ego, and would rather shoot than get out of the way.

She waved the officers around, masked men with guns ran up to her car, she reasonably felt threatened and attempted to drive away, and dude executed her in violation of DHA use of force and should stand trial in MN.

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/...n_2021.pdf

It’s pretty clear the motivations here. The Trump administration released the goons out without proper training because they want this to happen. They want a democrat governor to call up the national guard so they have legal authority to change orders and introduce the police state.

It’s sadly predictable that the **** your feelings crowd is now claiming that ice agents being called names is now grounds for them
To shoot civilians. I’ve agents continue to live up to the names they are being called too

1 week open season ends this type of stupidity in America

Fat unemployeed single white mom drives thousands of miles to protest for sub 80s stealing money, drives car at officer, gets shot in the face.

Prog filth. Reeeeeeeee

(01-08-2026 09:15 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:09 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:04 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Some of these posts are simply unbelievable. ICE agents have been called every name in the book by leftist politicians and vilified for doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing. Rounding up and deporting people who are here illegally. They are obstructed, yelled at, have things thrown at them, and everywhere they go left wing protestors do what they can to interfere. Some of the folks in this thread evidently lack the mental capacity to understand the situation this behavior creates. The agents are going to be on edge and they are going to give someone the benefit of the doubt when they use their vehicle in the manner she did. Did she deserve to die. Not in my opinion but i don't deal with these leftist loons every day nor do i get threatened and de-humanized by them and their political masters on a regular basis. The left created this situation. They own it.

The big question is why do the Dems always side with the criminals and illegal aliens?

Bottom line - if you are in this country illegally, YOU ARE A LAW BREAKING CRIMINAL. They all need to be deported. Every last one of them. End of discussion. The morons on the left can’t seem to comprehend this.

They also don't seem smart enough to understand the problems unchecked immigration creates. You would think the corruption being exposed in Minnesota would wake some of them up but they seem oblivious.
It's also entertaining to watch them go after ICE agents for this while defending the killing of Babbit.

Did this lady break into a government building, then break into and climb through a second door being used by law enforcement, while part of a mob that overwhelmingly outnumbered the Capitol police?


Because in the video it looks like she is in her Honda pilot on a public street.

I’m sorry you can’t rub two brain cells together and see the difference. Daily life must be hard.

(01-08-2026 09:23 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:19 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:11 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:38 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:25 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  He shot her after he was clear of the car. You can see his feet to the side of the car. He’ll he was leaning around the A pillar for a better shot.

He was big mad she didn’t listen to them and executed her. If he hadn’t have shot she would have drove off and been arrested later.

Your first paragraph is absolutely incorrect. The first shot was dead on. You just have to look at the right video, instead of the one you prefer. It's clear as day.

And Jonathan Turley just said again that the shoot was absolutely legit, that it was clearly within the standard of Tennessee vs. Garner, the current governing law decision in cases like this.

On top of that, Turley said MN can indict him and attempt to bring him to trial, but the feds through the supremacy clause can move it to federal court and drop the case. And his superiors have already cleared him.

He will be potentially liable for civil lawsuits brought by the victim's family.

DHS Use of Force Policy - Use of Safe Tactics - Page 6 -

“ 2. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving
vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.
3. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.”


The officer placed himself in front of the vehicle. He intentionally manufactured a situation where he could then say “she was coming right for me” and shoot her.

Page 7 -

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall employ de-escalation tactics and techniques, when safe and feasible, that do not compromise law enforcement priorities.”

Given that he manufactured the justification for the use of force by moving in front of her car, he could have deescalated by simply moving out of the way. What he did was move out of the way, then shoot her.

You can see in this freeze frame that this is the moment of the first shot, the cloud of gas and glass is visible. His feet are clearly clear of the vehicle, he is leaning in front of it for a better shot.




Use of Force Policy- Page 9

“ Discharging a firearm at a person shall be done only with the intent of stopping that person from continuing the threatening behavior that justifies the use of deadly force.”

As you can clearly see from the officers location for shots two and three he continued to fire after there was no continued threat. Neither he or his partner were in front of the vehicle.

“ Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject. However, deadly force is authorized to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject where the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the subject poses a significant threat of death or serious physical harm to the officer/agent or others and such force is necessary to prevent escape. “

I assume the officer has no preexisting knowledge that this lady is a serial killer, and has no justification to fire to stop her from fleeing.

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall not discharge their firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle, vessel, or aircraft unless deadly force is necessary, that is, when the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the operator poses an imminent danger of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.

Such deadly force may include a moving vehicle aimed at officers/agents or others present, but would not include a moving vehicle merely fleeing from officers/agents unless the vehicle or the escape of the subject poses an imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.“

Such force may include a moving vehicle, but the officer created the use of force situation by moving in front of the vehicle, could simply deescalate by moving, and instead chose to move then shoot and keep shooting after the threat ended.

This lady is dead because this guy didn’t follow policy, has a big ego, and would rather shoot than get out of the way.

She waved the officers around, masked men with guns ran up to her car, she reasonably felt threatened and attempted to drive away, and dude executed her in violation of DHA use of force and should stand trial in MN.

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/...n_2021.pdf

It’s pretty clear the motivations here. The Trump administration released the goons out without proper training because they want this to happen. They want a democrat governor to call up the national guard so they have legal authority to change orders and introduce the police state.

It’s sadly predictable that the **** your feelings crowd is now claiming that ice agents being called names is now grounds for them
To shoot civilians. I’ve agents continue to live up to the names they are being called too

1 week open season ends this type of stupidity in America

Let me guess you have bone spurs that will keep you from completing your wet dream of killing citizens?

Probably looking for usual maga targets of unarmed women and children.

(01-08-2026 09:26 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:23 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:19 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:11 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:38 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Your first paragraph is absolutely incorrect. The first shot was dead on. You just have to look at the right video, instead of the one you prefer. It's clear as day.

And Jonathan Turley just said again that the shoot was absolutely legit, that it was clearly within the standard of Tennessee vs. Garner, the current governing law decision in cases like this.

On top of that, Turley said MN can indict him and attempt to bring him to trial, but the feds through the supremacy clause can move it to federal court and drop the case. And his superiors have already cleared him.

He will be potentially liable for civil lawsuits brought by the victim's family.

DHS Use of Force Policy - Use of Safe Tactics - Page 6 -

“ 2. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving
vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.
3. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.”


The officer placed himself in front of the vehicle. He intentionally manufactured a situation where he could then say “she was coming right for me” and shoot her.

Page 7 -

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall employ de-escalation tactics and techniques, when safe and feasible, that do not compromise law enforcement priorities.”

Given that he manufactured the justification for the use of force by moving in front of her car, he could have deescalated by simply moving out of the way. What he did was move out of the way, then shoot her.

You can see in this freeze frame that this is the moment of the first shot, the cloud of gas and glass is visible. His feet are clearly clear of the vehicle, he is leaning in front of it for a better shot.




Use of Force Policy- Page 9

“ Discharging a firearm at a person shall be done only with the intent of stopping that person from continuing the threatening behavior that justifies the use of deadly force.”

As you can clearly see from the officers location for shots two and three he continued to fire after there was no continued threat. Neither he or his partner were in front of the vehicle.

“ Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject. However, deadly force is authorized to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject where the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the subject poses a significant threat of death or serious physical harm to the officer/agent or others and such force is necessary to prevent escape. “

I assume the officer has no preexisting knowledge that this lady is a serial killer, and has no justification to fire to stop her from fleeing.

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall not discharge their firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle, vessel, or aircraft unless deadly force is necessary, that is, when the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the operator poses an imminent danger of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.

Such deadly force may include a moving vehicle aimed at officers/agents or others present, but would not include a moving vehicle merely fleeing from officers/agents unless the vehicle or the escape of the subject poses an imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.“

Such force may include a moving vehicle, but the officer created the use of force situation by moving in front of the vehicle, could simply deescalate by moving, and instead chose to move then shoot and keep shooting after the threat ended.

This lady is dead because this guy didn’t follow policy, has a big ego, and would rather shoot than get out of the way.

She waved the officers around, masked men with guns ran up to her car, she reasonably felt threatened and attempted to drive away, and dude executed her in violation of DHA use of force and should stand trial in MN.

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/...n_2021.pdf

It’s pretty clear the motivations here. The Trump administration released the goons out without proper training because they want this to happen. They want a democrat governor to call up the national guard so they have legal authority to change orders and introduce the police state.

It’s sadly predictable that the **** your feelings crowd is now claiming that ice agents being called names is now grounds for them
To shoot civilians. I’ve agents continue to live up to the names they are being called too

1 week open season ends this type of stupidity in America

Let me guess you have bone spurs that will keep you from completing your wet dream of killing citizens?

Probably looking for usual maga targets of unarmed women and children.

Prog filth always accuse others of what they are

(01-08-2026 09:26 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:23 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:19 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:11 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:38 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Your first paragraph is absolutely incorrect. The first shot was dead on. You just have to look at the right video, instead of the one you prefer. It's clear as day.

And Jonathan Turley just said again that the shoot was absolutely legit, that it was clearly within the standard of Tennessee vs. Garner, the current governing law decision in cases like this.

On top of that, Turley said MN can indict him and attempt to bring him to trial, but the feds through the supremacy clause can move it to federal court and drop the case. And his superiors have already cleared him.

He will be potentially liable for civil lawsuits brought by the victim's family.

DHS Use of Force Policy - Use of Safe Tactics - Page 6 -

“ 2. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving
vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.
3. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.”


The officer placed himself in front of the vehicle. He intentionally manufactured a situation where he could then say “she was coming right for me” and shoot her.

Page 7 -

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall employ de-escalation tactics and techniques, when safe and feasible, that do not compromise law enforcement priorities.”

Given that he manufactured the justification for the use of force by moving in front of her car, he could have deescalated by simply moving out of the way. What he did was move out of the way, then shoot her.

You can see in this freeze frame that this is the moment of the first shot, the cloud of gas and glass is visible. His feet are clearly clear of the vehicle, he is leaning in front of it for a better shot.




Use of Force Policy- Page 9

“ Discharging a firearm at a person shall be done only with the intent of stopping that person from continuing the threatening behavior that justifies the use of deadly force.”

As you can clearly see from the officers location for shots two and three he continued to fire after there was no continued threat. Neither he or his partner were in front of the vehicle.

“ Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject. However, deadly force is authorized to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject where the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the subject poses a significant threat of death or serious physical harm to the officer/agent or others and such force is necessary to prevent escape. “

I assume the officer has no preexisting knowledge that this lady is a serial killer, and has no justification to fire to stop her from fleeing.

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall not discharge their firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle, vessel, or aircraft unless deadly force is necessary, that is, when the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the operator poses an imminent danger of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.

Such deadly force may include a moving vehicle aimed at officers/agents or others present, but would not include a moving vehicle merely fleeing from officers/agents unless the vehicle or the escape of the subject poses an imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.“

Such force may include a moving vehicle, but the officer created the use of force situation by moving in front of the vehicle, could simply deescalate by moving, and instead chose to move then shoot and keep shooting after the threat ended.

This lady is dead because this guy didn’t follow policy, has a big ego, and would rather shoot than get out of the way.

She waved the officers around, masked men with guns ran up to her car, she reasonably felt threatened and attempted to drive away, and dude executed her in violation of DHA use of force and should stand trial in MN.

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/...n_2021.pdf

It’s pretty clear the motivations here. The Trump administration released the goons out without proper training because they want this to happen. They want a democrat governor to call up the national guard so they have legal authority to change orders and introduce the police state.

It’s sadly predictable that the **** your feelings crowd is now claiming that ice agents being called names is now grounds for them
To shoot civilians. I’ve agents continue to live up to the names they are being called too

1 week open season ends this type of stupidity in America

Let me guess you have bone spurs that will keep you from completing your wet dream of killing citizens?

Probably looking for usual maga targets of unarmed women and children.

id be the 1st in line!

(01-08-2026 09:24 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:15 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:09 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:04 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Some of these posts are simply unbelievable. ICE agents have been called every name in the book by leftist politicians and vilified for doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing. Rounding up and deporting people who are here illegally. They are obstructed, yelled at, have things thrown at them, and everywhere they go left wing protestors do what they can to interfere. Some of the folks in this thread evidently lack the mental capacity to understand the situation this behavior creates. The agents are going to be on edge and they are going to give someone the benefit of the doubt when they use their vehicle in the manner she did. Did she deserve to die. Not in my opinion but i don't deal with these leftist loons every day nor do i get threatened and de-humanized by them and their political masters on a regular basis. The left created this situation. They own it.

The big question is why do the Dems always side with the criminals and illegal aliens?

Bottom line - if you are in this country illegally, YOU ARE A LAW BREAKING CRIMINAL. They all need to be deported. Every last one of them. End of discussion. The morons on the left can’t seem to comprehend this.

They also don't seem smart enough to understand the problems unchecked immigration creates. You would think the corruption being exposed in Minnesota would wake some of them up but they seem oblivious.
It's also entertaining to watch them go after ICE agents for this while defending the killing of Babbit.

Did this lady break into a government building, then break into and climb through a second door being used by law enforcement, while part of a mob that overwhelmingly outnumbered the Capitol police?


Because in the video it looks like she is in her Honda pilot on a public street.

I’m sorry you can’t rub two brain cells together and see the difference. Daily life must be hard.

One hit a law enforcement agent with her vehicle. One had no weapon. When did government property become something other than public property.
Possess some brain power before commenting on others.

(01-08-2026 09:19 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:11 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:38 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:25 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  What part of she accelerated her car, drove straight toward him and hit him did you not understand?

If a policeman attempts to arrest you, you resist, and attempt to cause him bodily harm to where he thinks his life is in danger, what the hell do you think is going to happen?

He shot her after he was clear of the car. You can see his feet to the side of the car. He’ll he was leaning around the A pillar for a better shot.

He was big mad she didn’t listen to them and executed her. If he hadn’t have shot she would have drove off and been arrested later.

Your first paragraph is absolutely incorrect. The first shot was dead on. You just have to look at the right video, instead of the one you prefer. It's clear as day.

And Jonathan Turley just said again that the shoot was absolutely legit, that it was clearly within the standard of Tennessee vs. Garner, the current governing law decision in cases like this.

On top of that, Turley said MN can indict him and attempt to bring him to trial, but the feds through the supremacy clause can move it to federal court and drop the case. And his superiors have already cleared him.

He will be potentially liable for civil lawsuits brought by the victim's family.

DHS Use of Force Policy - Use of Safe Tactics - Page 6 -

“ 2. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving
vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.
3. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.”


The officer placed himself in front of the vehicle. He intentionally manufactured a situation where he could then say “she was coming right for me” and shoot her.

Page 7 -

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall employ de-escalation tactics and techniques, when safe and feasible, that do not compromise law enforcement priorities.”

Given that he manufactured the justification for the use of force by moving in front of her car, he could have deescalated by simply moving out of the way. What he did was move out of the way, then shoot her.

You can see in this freeze frame that this is the moment of the first shot, the cloud of gas and glass is visible. His feet are clearly clear of the vehicle, he is leaning in front of it for a better shot.




Use of Force Policy- Page 9

“ Discharging a firearm at a person shall be done only with the intent of stopping that person from continuing the threatening behavior that justifies the use of deadly force.”

As you can clearly see from the officers location for shots two and three he continued to fire after there was no continued threat. Neither he or his partner were in front of the vehicle.

“ Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject. However, deadly force is authorized to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject where the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the subject poses a significant threat of death or serious physical harm to the officer/agent or others and such force is necessary to prevent escape. “

I assume the officer has no preexisting knowledge that this lady is a serial killer, and has no justification to fire to stop her from fleeing.

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall not discharge their firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle, vessel, or aircraft unless deadly force is necessary, that is, when the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the operator poses an imminent danger of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.

Such deadly force may include a moving vehicle aimed at officers/agents or others present, but would not include a moving vehicle merely fleeing from officers/agents unless the vehicle or the escape of the subject poses an imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.“

Such force may include a moving vehicle, but the officer created the use of force situation by moving in front of the vehicle, could simply deescalate by moving, and instead chose to move then shoot and keep shooting after the threat ended.

This lady is dead because this guy didn’t follow policy, has a big ego, and would rather shoot than get out of the way.

She waved the officers around, masked men with guns ran up to her car, she reasonably felt threatened and attempted to drive away, and dude executed her in violation of DHA use of force and should stand trial in MN.

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/...n_2021.pdf

It’s pretty clear the motivations here. The Trump administration released the goons out without proper training because they want this to happen. They want a democrat governor to call up the national guard so they have legal authority to change orders and introduce the police state.

It’s sadly predictable that the **** your feelings crowd is now claiming that ice agents being called names is now grounds for them
To shoot civilians. I’ve agents continue to live up to the names they are being called too

Gaslighting at its finest.

If you really believe this you are one sick puppy.



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(01-08-2026 09:26 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:23 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:19 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:11 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:38 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Your first paragraph is absolutely incorrect. The first shot was dead on. You just have to look at the right video, instead of the one you prefer. It's clear as day.

And Jonathan Turley just said again that the shoot was absolutely legit, that it was clearly within the standard of Tennessee vs. Garner, the current governing law decision in cases like this.

On top of that, Turley said MN can indict him and attempt to bring him to trial, but the feds through the supremacy clause can move it to federal court and drop the case. And his superiors have already cleared him.

He will be potentially liable for civil lawsuits brought by the victim's family.

DHS Use of Force Policy - Use of Safe Tactics - Page 6 -

“ 2. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving
vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.
3. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.”


The officer placed himself in front of the vehicle. He intentionally manufactured a situation where he could then say “she was coming right for me” and shoot her.

Page 7 -

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall employ de-escalation tactics and techniques, when safe and feasible, that do not compromise law enforcement priorities.”

Given that he manufactured the justification for the use of force by moving in front of her car, he could have deescalated by simply moving out of the way. What he did was move out of the way, then shoot her.

You can see in this freeze frame that this is the moment of the first shot, the cloud of gas and glass is visible. His feet are clearly clear of the vehicle, he is leaning in front of it for a better shot.




Use of Force Policy- Page 9

“ Discharging a firearm at a person shall be done only with the intent of stopping that person from continuing the threatening behavior that justifies the use of deadly force.”

As you can clearly see from the officers location for shots two and three he continued to fire after there was no continued threat. Neither he or his partner were in front of the vehicle.

“ Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject. However, deadly force is authorized to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject where the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the subject poses a significant threat of death or serious physical harm to the officer/agent or others and such force is necessary to prevent escape. “

I assume the officer has no preexisting knowledge that this lady is a serial killer, and has no justification to fire to stop her from fleeing.

“ Authorized Officers/Agents shall not discharge their firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle, vessel, or aircraft unless deadly force is necessary, that is, when the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the operator poses an imminent danger of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.

Such deadly force may include a moving vehicle aimed at officers/agents or others present, but would not include a moving vehicle merely fleeing from officers/agents unless the vehicle or the escape of the subject poses an imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.“

Such force may include a moving vehicle, but the officer created the use of force situation by moving in front of the vehicle, could simply deescalate by moving, and instead chose to move then shoot and keep shooting after the threat ended.

This lady is dead because this guy didn’t follow policy, has a big ego, and would rather shoot than get out of the way.

She waved the officers around, masked men with guns ran up to her car, she reasonably felt threatened and attempted to drive away, and dude executed her in violation of DHA use of force and should stand trial in MN.

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/...n_2021.pdf

It’s pretty clear the motivations here. The Trump administration released the goons out without proper training because they want this to happen. They want a democrat governor to call up the national guard so they have legal authority to change orders and introduce the police state.

It’s sadly predictable that the **** your feelings crowd is now claiming that ice agents being called names is now grounds for them
To shoot civilians. I’ve agents continue to live up to the names they are being called too

1 week open season ends this type of stupidity in America

Let me guess you have bone spurs that will keep you from completing your wet dream of killing citizens?

Probably looking for usual maga targets of unarmed women and children.

Democrat policies have killed more children than anything the right could imagine doing.

(01-08-2026 09:29 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:26 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  Let me guess you have bone spurs that will keep you from completing your wet dream of killing citizens?

Probably looking for usual maga targets of unarmed women and children.

id be the 1st in line!

Gravy Seal reporting for duty Dear Leader! Point me in the nearest direction of the unarmed women and children resisting your holy will. Particularly interested in the liberal white women who thwarted my clumsy advances or laughed at me, they have this coming!

(01-08-2026 09:21 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:09 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:04 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Some of these posts are simply unbelievable. ICE agents have been called every name in the book by leftist politicians and vilified for doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing. Rounding up and deporting people who are here illegally. They are obstructed, yelled at, have things thrown at them, and everywhere they go left wing protestors do what they can to interfere. Some of the folks in this thread evidently lack the mental capacity to understand the situation this behavior creates. The agents are going to be on edge and they are going to give someone the benefit of the doubt when they use their vehicle in the manner she did. Did she deserve to die. Not in my opinion but i don't deal with these leftist loons every day nor do i get threatened and de-humanized by them and their political masters on a regular basis. The left created this situation. They own it.

The big question is why do the Dems always side with the criminals and illegal aliens?

Bottom line - if you are in this country illegally, YOU ARE A LAW BREAKING CRIMINAL. They all need to be deported. Every last one of them. End of discussion. The morons on the left can’t seem to comprehend this.

Simplest answer is that leftists hate authority of any kind.

Unless it is against their enemies. Their entire existence is centered around HAVING the authority.

(01-08-2026 09:38 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:29 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:26 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  Let me guess you have bone spurs that will keep you from completing your wet dream of killing citizens?

Probably looking for usual maga targets of unarmed women and children.

id be the 1st in line!

Gravy Seal reporting for duty Dear Leader! Point me in the nearest direction of the unarmed women and children resisting your holy will. Particularly interested in the liberal white women who thwarted my clumsy advances or laughed at me, they have this coming!

Hit a federal agent with a car and get shot in the face

Its pretty simple ballgargle.

(01-08-2026 09:38 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:29 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:26 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  Let me guess you have bone spurs that will keep you from completing your wet dream of killing citizens?

Probably looking for usual maga targets of unarmed women and children.

id be the 1st in line!

Gravy Seal reporting for duty Dear Leader! Point me in the nearest direction of the unarmed women and children resisting your holy will. Particularly interested in the liberal white women who thwarted my clumsy advances or laughed at me, they have this coming!

No need to worry about the liberal women's children. They have already been aborted.

(01-08-2026 09:19 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  It’s pretty clear the motivations here. The Trump administration released the goons out without proper training because they want this to happen. They want a democrat governor to call up the national guard so they have legal authority to change orders and introduce the police state.

It’s sadly predictable that the **** your feelings crowd is now claiming that ice agents being called names is now grounds for them
To shoot civilians. I’ve agents continue to live up to the names they are being called too

Your take on this is

(01-08-2026 10:14 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:19 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  It’s pretty clear the motivations here. The Trump administration released the goons out without proper training because they want this to happen. They want a democrat governor to call up the national guard so they have legal authority to change orders and introduce the police state.

It’s sadly predictable that the **** your feelings crowd is now claiming that ice agents being called names is now grounds for them
To shoot civilians. I’ve agents continue to live up to the names they are being called too

Your take on this is

That's just how he is. His take on anything and everything political is crap.

If she was "just leaving the scene", she was leaving her "wife" on the sidewalk filming. Seems like she would have just said to the ICE agents. "OK, we are leaving. Come on honey get in the car, we're leaving." That isn't what happened. She was out of control and hit an agent that was standing in front her vehicle while the other agents were trying to get her out of the car. She blew it and the cost was her life.

Darwin wins again.

(01-08-2026 10:26 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  If she was "just leaving the scene", she was leaving her "wife" on the sidewalk filming. Seems like she would have just said to the ICE agents. "OK, we are leaving. Come on honey get in the car, we're leaving." That isn't what happened. She was out of control and hit an agent that was standing in front her vehicle while the other agents were trying to get her out of the car. She blew it and the cost was her life.

This. And supposedly (from a post earlier in this thread), her "wife" put her up to doing it for clicks. If federal lawyers really wanted to, they could bring the "wife" up on charges.

But of course, the left will present her as a grieving widow who was just trying to film the love of her life doing something "cool" instead of obstructing justice, trying to kill a federal agent with their car, and, really, not complying with federal agents. Because the left loves lawlessness. It's sad, too, because if previous presidents on both sides of the aisle had simply enforced immigration policy, this wouldn't have happened. But one side wants to import folks illegally from the third world and give them free stuff in the hope they vote for them once they're granted citizenship when they're able to give them that. And anything that opposes their agenda is deemed all sorts of names in the book.

Still, what do I know? I'm a country bumpkin from Southeast Texas.